One of my technicians just died of Covid

What outrage? Any lingering capacity I had for outrage at the amorality of Trump supporters died a hard death early in COVID. There just isn't a bottom to reach. I remain somewhat curious at how a person gets that way, but I don't expect answers, much less any taking of responsibility. Never the taking of reponsibility.

As I said, I genuinely don't understand how a person gets to the point where their response to the death of two ordinary people is to first accuse the other poster lying & then effectively accuse them of killing the two people. I don't respond that way to such people dying and thankfully I don't understand why anyone else would.

Clearly that agitates you. Again, something I don't understand.

 

When you find it in yourself to chastise your fellow lefties for wishing death upon people who do not take the vaccine then come at me with your morality bro.

 

My morality is that I don't accuse a person of causing the deaths of two acquaintances simply because they hold an opinion I disagree with. As I said, we clearly have wildly different standards. Whether or not I 'chastise' anyone else doesn't change that.

Deflect all you want, that won't change.

 

My post included the words "perhaps and might" so you can fabricate something else and pretend I said it. Your silence on lefties wishing death on those declining the vaccine is absolutely a double standard. It's not "moral" to accuse others of what they did not say.

 

Or you couldn't vote.

 

Fortunately, people like you don't get to impose your tyrannical fantasies on others. Why not simply decree Democrats as king forever and lock up your political opposition like you would those who decline the vaccine and confiscate their children?

How DARE anyone have a choice you don't like?

 

I'm truly sorry to hear that. If I may ask, was he overweight/obese or was he fit? My Wife and I put off taking the shot out of fear of the possible side effects regarding my Wifes severe allergies. Eventually it became apparent to us that the benefits of the shot outweighed the alternative. So we took the plunge into our arms. No side effects. Again, very sorry about your technician.

 

I wasn't that close to him. I mean, he worked for me. But I didn't know anything about his personal life. It's just that it's the first person I was in contact with as he was dying from Covid.

 

Same here. Until yesterday I had mostly only heard OF people who passed. A few who were acquaintances a long time ago, or of family members of people I knew. This is the first one I know with whom I was interacting day to day.

 

He wasn't obese. From what he told me before he left the company, he was in excellent health. I never met his wife, so I don't know if she had any other conditions, or if she was overweight.

 

They are the FIRST ones I have in mind. Children and people who can't get the shot because of some health condition. They are the most vulnerable victims of the irresponsible who refuse to follow the science. Those, as well as people whose organism is just not capable of developing antibodies.

 

For all you know, the deceased DID have a health condition that precluded him from getting the vaccine he CHOSE not to share with you, as an employer.....(perhaps he thought you would have discriminated based on that condition too? You had already made it abundantly clear you do not respect medical privacy)
Of course, since you (evidently) ignored his right to medical privacy and terminated him, you will never know.

People need to start suing for employers violating HIPAA laws. That would be a more realistic lawsuit to consider.

 

You don't have to be. I only knew two of the Americans that died from COVID but all the deaths impacted me.

I've mentioned in the past that my parents didn't care about me. My dad died in June never trying to have a non-abusive relationship with me. I wasn't close to him because he pushed me away. It doesn't mean his death didn't impact me.

How is your other employee (his friend) doing with all this? I'm assuming he's vaccinated since he's still employed.

 

Clearly the correlation is not necessarily between political party and vaccination, but between political narrative and vaccination.

But the narrative is most definitely Trumpian. There is no other source other than those sources that are close to Trump. And it has never been denounced by Trump. Even though its victims are not all Trump followers.

Health insurance doesn't cover hospital costs of people who refuse to get the vaccine. I truly hope his life insurance does. I believe his immediate family are all minors. His 17 year old being the oldest, and I think he had a younger son. I don't know what their situation is right now.

It's sad.

 

This would make sense if you think of it as a uniform distribution. But highly infectious diseases don't spread uniformly. Deaths are going to occur in areas with more sick people because of higher transmission rates, larger amounts of unhealthy or at-risk populations, inadequate or overburdened medical resources, or combinations of those factors. Hotspots, if you will. You can't think of it in terms of pure numbers, because things like geography, employment, social habits, living conditions, population density, and other factors I probably didn't even think of here, are all going to factor in as well.

 

Not when they're already infected. Once you're infected, the shot does you no good.

 

Read this article a while back
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emmanuelfelton/phone-chargers-for-coronavirus-patients

I said exactly the opposite.

 

Oh please, Golem acts like folks who resist taking vaccines are Trump's fault.....
Your narrative pretends like it but totally ignores the fact that vaccine skepticism long predates Trump AND you completely ignore all the lies and mis and dis info the medical industry has been caught in.

Considering those two factors alone, shreds that narrative.

Kinda sick and twisted to push that false agenda (or at the very least, a lie of omission) for political points over the man's grave.

One other question...do you require masks? So he had been wearing one?

 

That is painfully obvious looking at the Covid death or infection maps from John's Hopkins, and comparing that to the 2020 election map by county. As is obvious, if you live in a red state or county, you are far more likely to die from Covid than if you live in a blue state or county. You can even see that it is deadly just living next to a red county.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map

Death from Covid per capita
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Infections from Covid per capita



The 2020 election map

 

So you DO love Trump after all!!!

I like that my boss respects the medical privacy of his employees.

BTW, I reserve the right to remain skepitcal of this entire account.....one death is believable BUT...two, back to back in middle aged (or a bit younger) adults? Combine this with your political hay making AND not much empathy I could see in your OP (if it was there, it took a back seat to your politicizing the death, first and foremost...) Add it all up and I remain a skeptic.

We don't have rules against that now, do we?

 

Positive Covid test is not a death sentence. One is far more likely to fully recover than to die from it. These horror stories always seem to come down to Trump made someone go against left wing wisdom. People that elected Joe Biden call people who voted for Trump stupid. Go figure.

 

Do you know of any source, other than the usual trumpian sources, who are pushing anti-vax propaganda? No scientific association, no medical association, no reputable group whatsoever ... the anti-vaxer "science" originates on the likes of Dr. Tucker Carlson, Professor Alex Jones, Virologist Ron DeSantis, Greg Abbott MD... and other similar quacks! Oh.. and the alien DNA/demon sperm lady, of course!

 

Already answered, you cut it from my post. Don't ask me if you don't like the answer.....here it is again in it's ENTIRETY for the casual reader your cutting 90% of my post is intended to deceive....

Oh please, Golem acts like folks who resist taking vaccines are Trump's fault.....
Your narrative pretends like it but totally ignores the fact that vaccine skepticism long predates Trump AND you completely ignore all the lies and mis and dis info the medical industry has been caught in.

Considering those two factors alone, shreds that narrative.

Kinda sick and twisted to push that false agenda (or at the very least, a lie of omission) for political points over the man's grave.

One other question...do you require masks? So he had been wearing one?

 

Define "reputable". According to left wing propagandists the vaccine will cure anything but herpes. I got the shots but I can understand the reluctance by some and recognize their right to make a personal choice about it. This is uglier than the mess in Afghanistan because we are supposed to be better than this.

 

Sad thing is that we were getting a handle on Covid - the rates were dropping - and then the whole anti-masking thing
took off and people got complacent about personal hygiene. I am truly amazed that the same people who feel
the need to carry guns everywhere for the one-in-million chance they might need it to protect themselves are so
damn obstinate about a simple mask in public when there's a one-in-a thousand chance they might be infected or
bring home the infection. And it's about nothing other than politics and wanting to appear "macho" in the face of reality.

Silly assed crap, really.