Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So

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  1. Robodoon

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    Our Troops do NOT Protect Our Freedom and We Should Stop Thanking Them for Doing So .


    Sunday, 07 August 2011 16:11 Jesse Richard


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    Let's make one thing crystal clear, no member of the US military contributes in any way whatsoever to protecting the freedoms of the American people. As a matter of fact, they are more likely to turn their weapons on you than they are to defend your Constitutional rights.

    The only people on this planet Earth who can affect your freedom are members of Congress, local legislators and the members of enforcement institutions who will blindly follow the rulers who sign their paychecks. And, while your beloved troops are murdering people around the globe, yes, I said murdering, your Congress and local legislators are eliminating your freedoms, en masse, without any intervention by our so-called protectors in the armed forces.


    There is no honor in volunteering to go anywhere in the world and kill anybody you are told to, without question, without historical background and without verifying the stated reasons for doing so. In this modern age of information we now know that time and time again our military have been deployed into battle, to kill and be killed, for reasons that in no way shape or form resemble the reasons for which they, or we were told at the time. This is no secret, although many Americans refuse to take off the flag that is wrapped around their eyes and see American history as it really happened. They blindly believe what was told to them by the people who have a vested interest in maintaining myths and misconceptions.


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    Comment: Stop the Wars, if Americans really want to support our troops bring them home and stop them from being used as fodder for the global bankers.
     
  2. Nightmare515

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    Hmmm so now I'm a murderer and a terrorist, anything else you'd like to call me? Oh and dont worry not appreciating the troops. For every 1 of you there are thousands of others who do so youre kind of getting drowned out.
     
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    Don't mind him, he's a troll who spends just as much time on posts aboou how Obama is a Muslim agent sent by Allah and wants to murder Jesus...
     
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    Lol, unfortunately the troops have to protect people like you whether you like it or not.
     
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    They sad part is he is partly right.....They do not protect our right....they protect the nation....which is different....

    The whole thing about troops stopping terrorists from coming over and stealing all of our rights was just BS propaganda started by the Bush Administration.
     
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    Comment: Stop the Wars, if Americans really want to support our troops bring them home and stop them from being used as fodder for the global bankers.
     
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    I've said no such thing.
     
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    Well according to him the troops don't protect him anyway so....
     
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    As a Conservative and a Veteran, I tend to agree.
     
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    You called me a murderer so since you want the troops (murderers according to you) to come home am I supposed to say thanks or something?
     
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    Panty wearing wuss!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    My point is our troops are just being used for the geopolitical efforts of the globalist elites. Our troops are told they are fighting for America, but thats just not true. Heck our government won't even close our borders down in the US, but in foreign nations they do and they protect the poppy fields which then ends up back on our streets.

    Our troops are simply being used by the people destroying us.
    The ones who want a NWO; the globalists.
     
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    ;) yeah our troops are just being used. How many troops would sign up to protect the interest of the bankers. Not many I would say.
     
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    I believe that was in the article. You can see my comments if you read a bit lower.

    But if you want, when the troops are killing others based on lies, what does that make them?

    We went to Iraq based all on lies, over 1,000,000 dead. Do you think it was justified?

    Our leadership refuses to protect the US, thats why the borders are open, our airports pick on American citizens and our troops are over seas protecting other interests like Opium [​IMG] and oil. [​IMG]
     
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    Alright well I appreciate your concern for the troops and wanting them pulled out of what you believe to be unjust wars. However, I would choose what parts of articles you agree with a bit more careful. Agreeing that the troops are murderers won't win you very much support. If the entire US population believed I was a murderer for serving my country then I would find another place to live. Luckily most of our citizens wouldn't have the audacity to make such claims.
     
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    The US has a volunteer military, people who sign up should know what they're signing up for.
     
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    Yes they should, but the problem is they don't. they are lied to...but some of the new commerials for the military should give them pause if they pay attention to them.
     
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    Hmmm. I guess I'm beginning to understand why The Right calls those on the Left "*******s".
    The Conservatives are obviously not the only ones who have their extreme whackjobs. Although the Bachmann / Palin segment of the Tea Party seems to be trying to gain the title for whackjobbery, this thread proves there is still competition for it.
     
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    Our troops are not murderers but they are following orders. Orders that are questionable. The last time soldiers just followed orders the Holocaust happened and then they wanted protection for their deeds post-war by saying they were just following orders. The War on Terror is nothing like the Holocaust at all, I am simply bringing up the point that military personnel are taught to follow orders and when it is time to start questioning those orders they do not do so. Iraq was a sham, and Afghanistan was a job for CIA and Spec Op groups. There are no political implications for assassinating terrorist leaders and that is exactly how they should have been dealt with. The CIA gathers the intel and the Spec Op groups carry out the attacks with pin point precision. A full scale invasion was pointless, senseless, breeds more terrorists out of the family members of civilian casualties at our hands, and has cost us way too much money. Unless you figure in the fact that Big Pharma has a multi billion dollar business and some of their top sellers include legalized forms of heroin e.g. roxicet, oxycontin, hydrocodone, etc. Then you can understand why Big Pharma, which is our largest industry, needs those opium fields to keep their production soaring and they got our government to go do the work for them using our upstanding military members as bullet fodder. We have been duped folks. But the outrage at the troops for doing their jobs is unwarranted. The outrage should be at the folks on Capitol Hill that sold both us and them out and sent them there.
     
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    I wasn't lied to....and I got exactly what I wanted out of the contract, from the MOS to the unit.
     
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    People somehow see Iraq/Afghanistan and the military as the same thing. Can arguments be made that Iraq/Afghanistan don't directly impact the freedom of individual Americans? Sure. But Iraq/Afghanistan is only a tiny little part of what the military is all about. People today live in such blissful ignorance they truly believe that warfare is a thing of the past and that economic sanctions and politics can prevent war.

    I ask you to imagine a world where the U.S. Military and NATO militaries didn't exist at all. Do you think the world would look the same? If the most powerful militaries in the world were those fielded by China/India/Russia/Iran/Pakistan do you think western prosperity and political influence would be the same? I'd really like to hear an answer from those of you who believe that the military accomplishes nothing.
     
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    The military are probably more important now than they have ever been.
     
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    I think that the mililtary is a necessary part of the equation. No, the military doesn't protect freedoms directly, precisely. But it does protect territory, without which those freedoms are somewhat unenforceable.
     
  24. Samuel Democritus

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    No our military and NATO are necessary to world stability. War will never or at the very best is a long way off from being completely unnecessary in our world. However, we have real foreign enemies. Enemies that would love to see us fall and none of them are named Iraq or Afghanistan. What we have done is mortgaged our economy to fight a war that we had no business fighting. Iraq and Afghanistan were not threats to us. The real threats out there are now laughing at us because we have spread our troops thin, destroyed our economy, deteriorated the world opinion of our country, and we are war weary.

    So in conclusion, our military influence is completely necessary but the way we have applied that influence as of late has been idiotic. What has it accomplished? Gas sure didn't get cheaper. Couldn't have been for oil. The Iraq and Afghani governments that we instituted want us out. We help them and they smack us in the face. So please tell me what have we accomplished? The only thing I see is our military spread thin and tired, our economy tanking, our rights of privacy being trampled, and the constant renewal of the one of the most unconstitutional acts in United States history that our politicians had the blatant audacity to dub the PATRIOT Act.
     
  25. Samuel Democritus

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    Do you honestly think Iraq or Afghanistan were going to invade our territory? Fat chance. You cannot wage war on a tactic. Terror is a tactic not an enemy. This whole war is a job for the CIA and Spec Ops. A full scale invasion was dumb. And people will say hind sight is 20/20. Yes that's true but it was a dumb idea before we ever acted on it.
     

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