Palastine is NOW a Recognized State !

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  1. HBendor

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    Not only that... They are aslo responsible for digging their own graves now!
     
  2. HBendor

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    Its been a long time since you visited... we have now more than two desalination plants working full time
     
  3. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    A RePost of my Deleated Post - - sans (minus) alleged INSULT :lol:


    Rev Anarchist says:

    “That was a fully deceptive and dishonest title. In fact the thread was full of deception and outright mistruths as well.
    At least it was comical! Lets do something different and post some facts. What the UN did was to vote Palestinian territories
    as a "nonmember observer state". NON-MEMBER, I like the sound of that! Truth hurts eh? Lol!

    So now the palestine territories (not a nation not a country but a territory) is now a non-member observer state. “ .......
    ...............
    &ON &on & ON &on &ON &on



    To Say: "(not a nation not a country but a territory)" is totally Irrational & Unreasonable
    In light of the FACT that Palestine has just been recognised as a Legitimate State by the UN

    How can you hope to maintain any Credibility whatsoever as a Rational player ?
    As we watch you stumble & fall trying to maintain such a GROSS & transperant Lie ? –


    Why is it so hard for you fanatics to perceive the simple FACT of the Reality
    of the implications of the Vote to Up Grade Palestines Status as a Nation State ?


    Sorry my friend, but you are being totally unreasonable & baldly Willfully Ignorant here -
    For the Fact is, Palestine has just been Recognized as a State – NOT as a territory as you infer -
    All be it - A Non Member State, But a Legitimate State all the same

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    Webster’s Defin:
    A State - A legitimate political entity
    A politically organized body of people occupying a definite territory

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    In this case the UN formally Recognized the Borders of that Nation State
    ......................................... to be the Borders as they existed 1967

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    Rev Anarchist says:
    “The UN which is a corrupt satanic impotent group of coward nations should reap what they sow……”
    ...............
    &ON &on & ON &on &ON &on



    So as you say,
    the rest of the World, excepting Israel the US & Canada and a few Island non-entities
    ................................... Are ALL but a cowardly group of Satanic inpired Nations

    Excuse Please -
    BUT this Bald Statement sounds like the empty Blather of a fanatic who finds offence
    when the ugly Genitals of his Crimes are exposed and his Diseased Plans are thwarted

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    Rev Anarchist says:
    "The US and Israel and the third of other nations that voted against the UN measure"……



    Don’t be so Hollow & Obtuse in your LIE - What a patently Ridiculous LIE –

    The UN assembly voted 138-9 in favour, with 41 nations abstaining.
    Abstentions are not accounted as votes in favor of the motion -

    They are Cowards who cannot stomach or swallow
    the Immoral Implications of a vote against the proposal

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    & then to DOT the Eye on his Maligant Fanaticism

    Rev Anarchst leave us with:
    "That nuclear nightmare future is owed to the UN and the stupe nations that voted with them!"



    need more be said ?.
    Your post would be laughable if it was not so pregnant with Tragedy

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  4. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm
    Seems I do indeed owe my adversary Rev Anarchist an Apology
    As I corrected my post were I called him foolish yet failed
    to Realize or Remember that I later do indeed refer to him as a Fool
    & only noticed my Faux Pas on a careful ReReading of my post


    Please accept my Apologies - I have asked the moderator to DELETE
    the offending word -

    I am sorry for the offence my foolishness has given - My Apologies -
    ................................................................... Please accept

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mr. Kettle meet Mr. Teapot.

    Who is blacker?

    I'd say the projection artist.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually its not, but thanks for playing. It's only an "observer state"

    And by changing you mean becoming a more and more giant cesspool then yes, it's changing.

    Yes because Russia has such a clean history of human rights.

    One can't be a liar when they are fabricating things against Israel. Didn't you know?

    Didn't Hitler talk of similar things?

    ROFL...you think way too highly of yourself.

    Hamas is a terrorist organization and deserves only annihilation.
     
  9. Omicron

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    http://tunes.digitalock.com/CelineD-OhHolyNight.mp3

    They're all nuts.

    Any moron would use this as a chance to turn the sands into something livable to give Palestinians a place to live. Are Saudi Wasabis seriously that dumb about how to spend money? Saudis let in cats like Idi Amin. What could be their problem with Palestinians?

    Ever seen that place in Yemen with the ancient dam set up to spread out water over two valleys? It was the home of Sheba.

    Today you have Bedoin monkeys barely able to hold a knife to their waste.

    What happened to the smart people there?
     
  10. Jack Napier

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    I'd say you have no clue what you are on about, but feel like chiming in anyway, right?

    He went into meltdown over being asked about Jews in psychiatry.

    I addressed his queries.

    Having done that, I asked him to finally show some evidence for these..

    Asssange was a paedophile.

    That he is the only person in the World to see Wiesel's tat.
     
  11. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    We readily admit that Palestine now hasthe status of a "Non member Observer State" & that fact gives it the status of a State

    KSigMason
    A Rational person would ask you :

    How can Palestine be Recognized an “Observer State”
    ...................... without being Recognized as a State ?

    Why is it so hard for you Zionist Ideologues to perceive the simple FACT of the Reality
    ........ of the implications of the Vote to Up Grade Palestines Status as a Nation State ?

    Do not you Realize that
    to so proudly display such Willfully Ignorant Irrational, Flat Earth muddled thinking, as you do
    opens you to the well deserved Ridicule & Scorn of people who’s powers of reason
    have not been so polluted & perverted by the Absurd demands of a corrupt Ideology?

    Do not you Realize that
    such Irrational though, inhibits & constrains your ability to properly Deal with Reality
    as it is & inevitably proves to be an extremely Unintelligent Survival Technique

    This open display of the inability to Think & Reason in a cognent Rational manner
    ......................................... is a sure sign
    of an underlying Malignant Fanaticism

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  12. Jack Napier

    Jack Napier Banned

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    Masons and secret socities.

    Never trusted them, to be honest.

    Of course, I am sure they are all just harmless boys clubs, where people can drink ginger ale and shout 'hurrah'.

    :lol:
     
  13. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was I on about?

    it was the suggestion of perception of your reflection. Right over your head as usual.
     
  14. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I stand corrected. Assange isn't a pedophile. He's a rapist. There, now do you feel better Jack?
     
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    Can you prove that?

    Preferrably from a legit source such as NYT or Reuters.
     
  16. moon

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    It was clear to everybody that the Zionist response to Palestine's legally-recognised Statehood was going to be childish foot-stomping, bawling more murders and more land theft. It hasn't officially started shouting about its covert nuclear stockpile but its armchair-Zionist rabble-rousers have wasted no time. :mrgreen:

    Still, Israel's own hitherto-supportive States are dumping it. That, of course, was factored in by the Palestinians before their successful Statehood bid. Dumb Zionists, smart Palestinians;

     
  17. klipkap

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    Please tell me that you are only joking by maintaining that an "observer state" is not a "state".

    [Edit: Sorry, Eudora. I only later saw your more eloquent response on the same topic]
     
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    Statehood is Statehood. Palestine has now been recognised as a non-member State- with all the rights of that status.

    Zionism is a doctrine of ethnic cleansing which practices State-sponsored terrorism.
     
  19. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Substitute the word Hamas for Zionism and you'd be spot on.
     
  20. klipkap

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    Only a few short weeks have passed, Dutch, and you have already forgotten what really happened. I find that to be an amazingly short memory!!! Or is it that you just practice selective historical fact retention? I suspect the latter.

    Do you remember that Israel attacked Gaza before the recent missile barrage started. Do you not remember that:

    # Probably most importantly do you remember that Israel still maintains an embargo against Gaza in violation of the June 2008 agreement?

    # That a man fishing on the beach in Gaza on 24 October was shot and killed by the IDF. As a result 80 rockets were fired at Israel in retaliation. Dutch, who was the victim, and who was the perpetrator?

    # That the same happened to an unarmed mentally deficient Palestinian man IN GAZA on Nov 5 when he approached the border fence. He had done so on past occasions and had been returned by the IDF to the PA. Dutch, who was the victim, and who was the perpetrator?

    # That on Nov. 8, Palestinian militants from one of the Popular Resistance Committees (not under Hamas control) engaged with an Israeli military unit that had entered Gaza. An Israeli military spokesman said the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) responded by firing at "suspicious locations" and in the process killed Palestinian 12-year-old Ahmed Abu Dagah while he was playing football? Was his style of play of a suspicious nature, Dutch? And who was the victim, and who was the perpetrator?

    # That during this period no Israelis were killed in turn. So Dutch, who were the victims in death, and who was the perpetrator?

    # That only on 10th November was the IDF attacked when a jeep approached the border fence. No Israelis were killed but this was the start of the Western media blitz. Note that none of the foregoing deaths by the IDF were "newsworthy". Here is a thread on this issue: http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...uped-us-mainstream-media-palestine-issue.html In the subsequent retaliation two Gazans were killed. Note that Israel is apparently allowed to approach the fence and to retaliate, but not the opposition. The rocket attacks from Gaza ramped up from a few per week to dozens per day; no Israeli deaths.

    # But then on 14th November, Ahmed Jabari (who was the equivalent of Minister for Justice for Hamas), after having received a ceasefire proposal, was assassinated by the IDF. Dutch who was the victim, and who was the perpetrator?

    # Only then did the barrage of Hamas missiles start (in retaliation).

    So, Dutch, why do you claim that Jack is a liar with his "The Jew screams victim, when they are the perpetrator"? It is very difficult to understand your justification. For instance, do you have evidence of the number of Hamas rockets fired per week during 2012 related to IDF actions?
     
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    What a pathetic comparison!!! I mean it. It is astonishingly uninformed.
    For a start just take the Wiki summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_legislative_election,_2006

    # Prior to the elections there had been allegations of corruption against Fatah leadership by senior Fatah members, the main rival to Hamas

    # Fatah had been accused of putting its own interests ahead of those of the Palestinian people.

    Now add to that the following Wiki summary on Hamas’ popularity:
    Yet you claim that that is equivalent to the KKK, Rev? Oy vey!!

    I agree about the most likely location of Armageddon.

    OMG, another school-boy howler. I thought that even Faux News would explain about the on-going land-grab by Israeli settlements in the Occupied Territories. Israel giving up HER land!!! I feel a headache coming on.
     
  22. free man

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    Trying to rewrite history again ?
    October, Palestinians fired 116 rockets and 55 mortar shells at Israel in 92 separate attacks
    September, Palestinians fired 17 rockets and 8 mortar shells at Israel in 25 separate attacks
    August, Palestinians fired 21 rockets and 3 mortar shells at Israel in 16 separate attacks
    July, Palestinians launched 18 rockets and 9 mortar shells at Israel in 28 separate attacks
    June, Palestinians launched 83 rockets and 11 mortar shells, 3 shooting at Israel in 99 separate attacks
    ...

    In fact, the Gazans had never stopped firing
     
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    Reference(s) please. You should know that we don't accept simply the say-so of Zionist apologists.

    But you failed on an important check, namely to also list IDF invasions or strikes and to compare which of the rocket barrages were retaliations. Your reporting style leaves the unjustified impression that all missile attacks are mindless.

    Or do you believe that Hamas is not allowed any retaliation no matter what Israel does. If so, don't bother to reply.

    Let me explain why I ask this.
    Below you will find the rocket attacks which led to the Operation Cast Lead slaughter by the IDF in January 2009? If you claimed "The Gazans never stopped firing" you would have been correct in that case also. But would you have been historically relevant in terms of a pertinent analysis and understanding of those events?

    [​IMG]

    See if you can understand what I am getting at. For instance what did the IDF do on November 4th, 2008 and how did that affect the rocket record?

    Applying that to the recent conflict, what IDF action happened on October the 24th, 2012? Was that preceded or followed by the most intense series of rocket attacks in October? What conclusion can you draw from your answer. Come on, be a bit more thorough; a bit less obviously bigoted. Now let us try 8th November 2012. What did the IDF do? Was that preceded or followed by the attack on the IDF jeep? Next, what assassination happened on 14th November. Was that preceded or followed by the most intense rocket barrage of 2012?

    I sincerely hope that you are starting to get the jist of this cause-and-effect analysis of who is most to blame, instead of just a mindless list of rocket attack numbers. If so, congratulations!!
     
  24. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The reason I called jack a lier is because he was caught redhanded making up fresh "old Russian sayings". Did you follow the thread? :)
     
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    bunk

    so who came first the chicken or the egg?
     

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