Palastine is NOW a Recognized State !

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  1. HBendor

    HBendor New Member

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    YOU KNOW WE DO NOT ACCEPT SUPPOSEDLY FACTS FROM ARABISTS HERE... SO WHO CAME FIRST THE BULL OR ITS C--P?

    You dedicate too much time for bashing Israel... Do you have a regular job? Perhaps a partial one shoveling after the matador's kill? If you get one congratulations.

    Gist is written this way and not jist!

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  2. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ACtually, there has been a constant barrage of rockets and mortars fired into Israel from gaza.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2012
    This is a detailed list of Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2012. All of the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip, unless stated otherwise.

    As of November 2012, over 2,256 rockets had been launched at Israel from Gaza since January 2012.


    There comes a point when enough is enough. Yes you could say that this event triggered that event, but it seems to me that this constant low level back and forth is bound to erupt every once in awhile.
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    This is why I think Hamas strategy is geared to keeping them in power, because they know that the Israelis will eventually respond and they can "claim" victory when they don't get too many of their people killed and only 50% of their infrastructure destroyed.

    Same can be said for Bibi and the right wingers. Make sure that the Israelis have cause for "security" fears immediately before an election and voila - victory.

    I wish somebody had some fairy dust that could bestow some common sense on all the powers that be over there.
     
  3. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Larf. Jonsa, where's your list of Israeli missiles/shells fired into Gaza ? :mrgreen: They topped your figure during ' Operation Summer Rains ' alone. What did you think that ' rains ' represented ? Hose pipes ? :mrgreen:

    It's also perfectly clear, to anybody that wants to see, that the prime mover for the violence was the Zionist invasion of Palestine. ' Chicken and egg ' ? A Zionism-inspired crock. Shame on its peddlers.
     
  4. Jack Napier

    Jack Napier Banned

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    Oh god, this again.

    I wasn't.

    Russians know well the workings of the Eastern European Jews, their mindset.

    That is why they say the Jew cries out in pain, while they cut your throat.

    It is a semi-allegory, of sorts.

    And very true, they always take the victim status, esp when they are the perpetrator.

    All but the blind can see that today.
     
  5. klipkap

    klipkap Well-Known Member

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    Then why not refute the "supposed fasts", instead of the utterly lame not-contributing juvenile "bunk" mantra?

    We all know why you choose not to refute them .... right, Bendor :) LOL
     
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    klipkap Well-Known Member

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    Come on Jonsa. I expected better from you. How about a modicum of analysis? And yes, the cause-and-effect if VERY pertinent. It always is, yet you seem to disagree.

    You tell me why there were the greatest number of attacks in March, October and November. In fact I have already answered the last two for you. So what caused the flair up in March. We know that Israel cause those in October and November, so let us test March. Since you appear to respect the Wiki summary, let us check "Operation Returning Echo" (click the blue for source). It starts like this:

    Are we surprised? I bet the Faux News addicts are. Once again the facts show that Israel started the conflict with an assassination. Do any of the Zionist apologists spot the similarity to November 2012, or have they already swept the verifiable facts under the carpet?

    So the score for the initiation of aggression so far in 2012 (March, October and November) is 3-0 for Israel. PS - a high score is bad :wink: This just confirms the pattern once again referred to in http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...israel-does-not-attack-israel-retaliates.html. Come on guys, wake up. The old Myth of defensive aggression no longer works now that the internet has given us access to the real facts. Israel farts and then whips around and blames someone else. And the Western media swallows it. Yeeech!!

    And if you want the low-level "background" to stop, how about complying with the June 2008 agreement.

    Anybody going to dispute the facts, or is HBendor's silly mantra the best Zionist defence for the Israeli aggression and slaughter?
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like I said, low level back and forth is bound to erupt every once in a while.

    Israel's on going security strategy of assassinating the various resistance leaders whom they consider to be that baddest actors at that time, will obviously cause Hamas/IJ to retaliate. Which in turn causes Israel to retaliate, which .......

    Now, the premise of these assassinations is surgical strike, minimizing collateral damage. I don't believe there is any other way of combatting these military opponents any other way except "boots on the ground" invasion and the last one was a horrific clustermuck for both sides.

    The recent "retaliation" of bombardment I think has exposed the bankruptcy of the policies that both sides have been persuing. It appears as tho the Israelis are reaching the end of the line in terms of sympathy for their "cause", excusing their heavy handedness, and accepting their thievery.

    I have always been of the opinion that the Hamas strategy yields nothing but death, destruction and misery, but it seems as tho constantly being the Israelis punching bag and perennial victim is solidifying opposition in Israel's previously staunch political allies.

    REgardless, violence wont solve it. The Israeli mantra of the arabs want their destruction is becoming more and more absurd. No arab country is in a position to destroy them, they will never get together again for a gang attack given a) the US would respond and b) if it got even remotely close Israel has both first AND second strike abilities guaranteeing MAD.

    Sooner rather than later, the palestinians must unify their governance, have another election and then get down to serious once and for all negotiation for peace. Likewise the Israelis have to overcome their paranoia and prejudices and do the same.
     
  8. moon

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    Let's not forget the survival of the Palestinians as a fighting force to this very day, the respect for Palestine and support for its position right across the non-US of AIPAC world- all of which have led directly to Palestine's recognition at the United Nations. Slewed views, like yours, don't stand up to scrutiny, Jonsa.

    Not necessarily just yet. They have learned how to play ' Good Palestinian/Bad Palestinian to their mutual advantage. Dumb Zionists !
     
  9. HBendor

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    Bull C--p!!!! With all your defamation, character assassination and blaspheme of Jews,... If you put all your valiant shabab/fighters on a battle field against the IDF??????????????? Guess who will win????????

    I personally long for this day Abbas or Netanyahu notwithstanding. The problem MUST be dealt with on THE BATTLE FIELD!
     
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    IDF versus Hezbollah. Guess who won? http://www.counterpunch.org/2006/10/13/how-hezbollah-defeated-israel/

    No doubt you'll scream 'lies, blasphemy', like a good little hasbara apparatchik but, you know what, I don't care. Liars will always be exposed, just as you have frequently been. Your belligerent rant also gives lie to your mantra that Jews only want peace.
     
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    I know this is old hat now... but if you want me to read, don't spend any time formatting your text.

    IMO, about time. I don't know what's so difficult. People living there for a long time now, let's recognize they are there and want to stay [regardless of why].
     
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    Ask George Bush and Saddam H...... oh, he's dead isn't he.
     
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    Mandrake

    Consider this, you control only your border with mexico, you dont control its airspace, its internal border areas, its roads. Israel controls all these things and more inside the west bank.

    Indeed Israel has no need or reason to let anyone it doesnt want to go through ITS OWN space. Thats not the same as OTHER spaces. Get that?

    Moreover it is indeed Israels fault if it rivers go to palestine through its territory. The water is no more its own than any water running south from canada in to the USA is Canadas to do with as it likes. Moreover have you verified the exact nature of control owner ship of river jordan related water?
     
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    Instead you refuse to debate anyone or engage in the discussion. So go away, your behaviour is of no value.

    Please state one myth from Klipkap, just one.
     
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    I'd sooner put a fence around you all and take your toys away.

    You people do not know how to be civilised.
     
  16. moon

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    :mrgreen: The what ?
     
  17. HBendor

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    We all are learning from you and Englandinistan... Clean your backyard fella before attempting to point your crooked finger of indignation towards others...
     
  18. HBendor

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    Dream on... a State, a State? what a wonderful state of affairs.. You have a State on paper only... and soon will be in the dust bin!
     
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    Dream on... a State, a State? what a wonderful state of affairs.. You have a State on paper only... and soon will be in the dust bin!
     
  20. Jack Napier

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    You never learn, as a collective.

    You never have learned.

    The rest of the world has been way too soft on you, since you lot succesfully managed to peddle your sob stories, on the last occasion.
     
  21. moon

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    Even Gaza is now referred to as a State by the Israeli Haaretz press . :mrgreen: Is that the paper you meant ?

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    http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-...leader-khaled-meshal-arrives-in-gaza-1.483365

    Hey, pretty good group for a bit of neoZionist assassination practice , eh Bendor ?
     
  22. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I notice mashaal re=iterated his desire for the liberation of all of palestine. If he keeps that up, he probably will eat a missile.
     
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    No. It's. Not. L O L
     
  24. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    It that your understated approval of State-sponsored murder, Jonsa ?
     
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    Yes, it is. Non-member States are recognised as States. Tough titty for the Zion-pumps, what ?
     

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