Part 10 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    It's a one...that disproves the claim quite well. I could go with those who banned Darwin in Tennessee in the 1920s....or was that due to those the tens of thousands of Muslims and Zoroasterians living in Nashville, Chattanooga, and Memphis?
     
  2. tecoyah

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    Surely....you do not want everyone to provide the examples you ask for?
     
  3. Mitt Ryan

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    My mistake, I really meant that most of them died horrific deaths which is true but not mostly by crucifixion. So my apologies for the mistake.
     
  4. Mitt Ryan

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    Yeah again my mistake for saying that most of them died from crucifixion, what was true for most is that they died horrific deaths. Below is what I gathered up.

    1. Andrew was crucified on an X-shaped cross.
    2. Bartholomew was flayed alive with knives.
    3. James the elder no info on manner in which he died
    4. James the younger his body was sawed in pieces.
    5. John died of natural death
    6. Judas hanged himself
    7. Jude was killed with arrows at Ararat
    8. Matthew no info on manner in which he died
    9. Peter requested that he might be crucified head downward for he was not worthy to die as his Lord had died.
    10. Phillip it is said that he died by hanging
    11. Simon tradition says he died from crucifixion
    12. Thomas was killed with a spear.
     
  5. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Well I'm speaking of what is known from written info, whereas the other member was speaking from no known source of information in other words he was spewing out bull...lol
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see....so all I need to do is recite Homer to state his writings as truth?
     
  7. Mitt Ryan

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    Sorry but again it's your problem of miscomprehending what you read. I said no such thing as to agree/concur with someone else's post that you are referring to. I simply said to you I guess he told you off...anyways something to that affect or is it effect?...lol

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    Go right ahead, I don't really care. And believe me you won't see me asking you for proof?...lol
     
  8. dairyair

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    And you don't agree with these number provided by the bible?

    Adam
    lived 930 years
    died 216 yrs. before the birth of Noah
    Seth = Adam's 3rd son
    lived 912 years
    Seth knew Noah for 34 years before he died
    Methuselah (4th great grandson of Seth)
    lived 969 years
    Methuselah knew Adam 243 years*
    Methuselah knew Seth 355 years
    Lemech (son of Methuselah)
    lived 777 years (died before his father)
    he is the father of Noah
    died 5 years before the flood
    Noah lived 950 years
    Methuselah knew Noah 600 years and died the year of the flood
    Talked with his father, Lemech 595 years
    Shem son of Noah (father of all Semites)
    lived 600 years
    talked with Methuselah 98 years*
    lived after the flood 502 years
    Eber or ****r (great-grandson of Shem)
    lived 464 years
    knew both Noah and Shem
    Terah (3 x great grandson of Eber)
    lived 205 years
    130 yrs old when Abraham is born
    talked with both Noah and Shem
    Abraham (Abram son of Terah)
    lived 175 years
    Abraham knew Shem son of Noah 150 years
    Noah died 2 yrs. before Abraham was born
    ****r outlives Abraham by 4 years
    Isaac (son of Abraham and Sarah)
    lived 180 years
    knew Shem (son of Noah) 50 years*
    Jacob (called Israel and son of Isaac and father of the 12 tribes)
    lived 147 years
    knew Abraham 20 years
    Levi (3rd oldest son of Israel – Jacob)
    knew Isaac about 45 years*
    knew Amran father of Moses who was his grandson*
    great grandfather of Moses
    Levi passed on the oral history to his grandson Amran*
    Moses (son of Amran son of Kohath son of Levi)
    Lived 120 years
    brother of Aaron who knew their father approx. 65 years*
    Moses receives the Oral Tradition from God and is commanded to write the first 5 books of the Old Testament.
     
  9. Mitt Ryan

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    Well yeah I agree I might have been overstating it a tad somewhat, I have heard it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/3 of the entire world's population. Which is about right it my guesstimation for it's really hard to get a true accurate account. Only God knows the true accurate number...right?...lol
     
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=332027&p=1063334646#post1063334646

    If wanren really showed me, you must agree with his claim.
    Else he showed me nothing but deceit.
    So you agree with wanren and moses dies in 2488.
     
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    I would hope not....why would you expect me to provide proof that fiction is real?


    Oh.....Wait.....
     
  12. Mitt Ryan

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    Again like I said I was not agreeing with what my good friend WanRen said to you, but because you called him out, he responded by making you look ignorant. Just go back and read your posts and WanRen's posts then you will get the clear picture.

    And so I was just really laughing at the way my friend WanRen responded to you, because you did call him ignorant didn't you? And so when I made my post I said to you, now who is the ignorant one.
     
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    If he posts a lie, how is that making me look ignorant?
    And if you think he made me look ignorant then you agree his post wasn't a lie.
    And now you have a date reference.
     
  14. Mitt Ryan

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    Did you go back and read your posts and my friend WanRen's posts? no you didn't, now go back and read his and your posts then and only then you will get the answers you seek...lol

    Look I like to carry on this intriguing (not) conversation with you but I really need to move on, for there are more intriguing questions I need to answer as you might already know I'm almost finishing up with Part IV...tata my former Christian friend!
     
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    Got it. I accept your surrender.
    You agree wanren was correct in the death of moses. And now there is a time line.

    Else, wanren posted a lie and I was not made ignorant from his posts. And you were just speaking from your satan voice.
     
  16. WanRen

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    I don't have to say it many times because I know me and my kind are not apes that is why you have to keep on repeating yourself that you and your kind are apes and I have said many times I have no problem with that but you have a problem with us for refusing to join your ape family why must you insist that we accept your human evolving from apes?

    I am not awe at yours because you just demonstrated and claim you are descended from apes. Only humans understand that humans are not apes.

    You are here and you exit aren't you?
     
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    Nice dizzying intellect not as dizzy as yours though
    [video=youtube;MwHWbsvgQUE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwHWbsvgQUE[/video]

    Even Tarzan knows he is not an ape.
     
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    Yup and scientist are discovering that you should know that. "In God nothing is impossible". I thought you don't recognize the Bible?

    Did you also read and see why I posted those post? Or did you missed it which I am sure you intentionally did because all my post were counter post to refute and rebuke all your disinformation and your favorite word LIES and I am very happy that I have been very successful in sharing the truth.

    I am always man enough to admit the truth and educate you about truth the problem is you are not man or woman enough to admit your faults or sins.
     
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    Galileo was a devout Catholic, the church protected him from his secular rivals who wanted to pressure the church to go against Galileo. Galileo theories open the flood gates to modern science thanks to the support from the Catholic church his studies were preserved.
     
  20. Mitt Ryan

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    Considering the circumstances they were under and really not knowing the one true God fully, yes they would make the mistake of making a Golden Calf to worship.

    Moses had been gone for 40 days, and they thought he probably had died. And so one thing led to another. I fail to see any contradiction as you see it. Obviously it's because you're not really understanding these people who lived during the days of the OT.

    Below is a link that explains it very thoroughly if anyone is interested.

    http://www.gotquestions.org/golden-calf.html


    I don't personally feel enslaved by my religion. What are you talking about?
     
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    What is true is that we don't KNOW exactly how most of these died. Most deaths are 'by tradition'.
     
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    Everyone knows they're not an ape. The theory of evolution doesn't teach us that nonsense either. Apes and man share a similar ancestor.
     
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    You're doing no justice by sugar coating history. How exactly did the church support Galileo by forcing him to recant and locking up in house arrest for the remainder of his life?
     
  24. Mitt Ryan

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    Is this similar ancestor the "missing link"?...lol

    Missing link my foot!...lol
     
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    Even that is questionable; we share a lot of similar DNA with rats as well, iirc around 95% or so, which is why they're used for medical testing and research. Evolutionary theory is just speculation not a scientifically provable fact.
     
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