Part 12 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Sorry but that's just another theory. They theorize the earliest life on Earth existed at least 3.5 billion years ago during the Eoarchean Era.

3.5 billion years ago!...c'mon now!...lol

 

Could you be more specific? What are the effective coping methods? What are the ineffective coping methods?

 

Well, you must be speaking for yourself, because it is known that atheists/agnostics do pray. Six percent of them pray every day, we’re told by the Pew Research Center. And 11 percent pray weekly or monthly.
If no one is there, you might ask, who are they praying to? Let me guess.
The air. The universe. The self. Maybe.

Or theirs might be the kinds of prayer that don’t need a recipient. They could be a feeling of awe. A sense of the numinous. An upwelling of peace brought on by nature. A moment of transcendence in the presence of music or art. Or simply a moment of felt stillness.

Their prayers might also be an overflowing of gratitude. A shout of joy brought on by being alive. A moment of connection with another human’s pain.

Or, of course, they could also be cries for help from people who can’t help crying out even though they don’t think anyone hears. Trees falling in the forest. The proverbial atheists in foxholes. Or just screamers, who voice their pain because they must and give it meaning because that’s what humans do.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pray-me/201309/do-atheists-pray

 

I have never misquoted the bible ever. YOU are intentionally misleading readers. It has nothing to do with the bible, you intentionally alter the quote tage so the person you are quoting is not notifed you quoted them. YOu do this because you want it to appear as if your statement went unchallenged i.e. "correct". This is deceiptful. Secondly I never said the bible said people at their children....YOU SAI IT......I REPEAT YOU SAID IT!!!!!!
Here every go read post 593
In post number 593 you said
"If you are not an idiot then you should know that the Bible never mention anything about children in the Noah's flood in fact if you notice that all of Noah's children were adults chances are there were no babies or children anymore because the people were so wicked that they cannibalized their children? That is why God said;
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I then asked YOU to show me where in the BIBLE is said people ate their children and there were no children on earth because people at them. Also, this contradicts the fact that you and Mitt previoulsy stated the very same children you now say dont exist, existed and you went so far as to say since god killed them it wasnt murder. Please tell us WAN, which is it? Were there children on earth at the time of the flood or not? You have answered the same question with two strikingly different answers. I love the part when you tell me Im misquoting the bible when you are the one that stated there were no children at all anywhere on the earth because they were eaten! Thanks that a perfect answer to illustrate to the readers. Exactly what I was looking for because its the nuttiest justification Ive ever heard any religious person.
Why the f&** would I need to quote genesis at all. YOu are the one that made the claim people at their children NOT ME. (See you words above) Hilarious.

 

They resort to drug usage and alcohol as a way to escape. Illegal drug use and excessive drinking are typical.
The Barna Group found that atheists and agnostics in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; pornography and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality.

Alcoholism was a serious social problem in the former atheistic Soviet Union. Between 1940 and 1980, the Soviet Union had the largest increase of the amount of alcohol usage in the developed world.

Binge drinking is a potent risk factor for suicide. Atheists have a higher suicide rate than the general population

http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_alcohol_abuse

Geez that explains why they don't like the idea that God exists. It has been asserted by various theists that atheists do not exist and that atheists are actively suppressing their belief and knowledge of God and enigmatically engage in self-deception and in the deception of others.

 

no one is gossiping. Its an open forum. Unlike you I quote correctly so everyone I quote is notified. I am not deceiptful.. I dont need to be. Secondly strawman. Its simple. YOU said all but eight on earth were killed. That means innocent children were killed whether you admit or not. When faced with this math you cracked (like crazy crack) and stated there were no children because people at them. I never said the bible said that god killed babies you dont have to if it says only 8 people were left behind. It didnt say it killed pink flamingos either but since the only animalsthat were left according to your owners manual were on the ark you have to assume they were killed or are you illustrating a perfect bible hypocisry for me by stating unless the bible specifically listed what was killed it didnt happen? If thats true then you have just proven for me the bible is false.
Also, what not to believe in cannabalism? Strawman!!!! ALERT!!!!!!! POSTER HAS MADE ANOTHER STRAWMAN!!!!!! The issue isnt whether or not cannabalism existed/exists OF COURSE IT DOES/DID? The issue is you think there was not a single child or baby on earth because ALL OF THEM WERE EATEN BY EVIL PEOPLE. THATS BAT (*)(*)(*)(*) CRASY NUTS!!!!!!

 

My post wasnt directed to you why did you quote it if you cant keep up? If you cant answer the posts that are directed at you why do you think you should waste our time and quote us when we werent even talking to you. You quote us when you werent being spoken to then complain about wasting bandwidth with our idiocy. Priceless on so many levels. I forgot how angry Christians got when you question their conflicting answers over time. Yes our "idiocy"........my my what would your god think of how you treat your fellow man? First the deceiptful posting technique and now the insults...... Im not feeling the love.

 

You keep talking about coping mechanisms.
Is that what you see your faith as?
That doesn't give any reason for it other than your comfort and convenience.
Is that what your faith in god is really all about? A soothing balm?

 

I think he has alluded to not having morals without God also.
And fear of hell.

 

Wrong and false you are just being too paranoid.

You sure know how to deceive yourself. Let us take this step by step
1. You claim and you keep asking me did or why God kill innocent babies and children during the Noah's flood. Even though Genesis 6:5 clearly never mention anything about babies and children and you continue to intentionally ignore that so if you can assume that there were babies and children then I answered that IMO there were none because Genesis 6:5 clearly mention none in fact all of Noah's children were adults and you still persist so the only logical answer why there is no babies and children was because the wicked people ate them it is called cannibalism and my answer was with a ?. You kept insisting that God is evil because He killed as you claim innocent babies and you continue just like now to ignore GENESIS 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

There you are MISQUOTING THE BIBLE WHERE IN GENESIS 6:5 SAID THAT INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN WERE KILLED BY GOD???

 

MR, atheists known to me do the usual things when the chips are down: take a holiday, read a good escapist book, go for a walk in the forest, drink some really good wine with dear friends and have a laugh, practice yoga, meditate, swim in the sea, exercise more and dwell less, plant a flower garden, play with a dog, be silly with your children, etc etc. anything life affirming, and coincidentally life improving. just as you do

WR, you initially claimed all the children on earth were drowned in the flood. then when you realised how that might come across (very (*)(*)(*)(*)ing badly), changed it to the inexplicably nutty "there were no children because they'd all been eaten". somehow, that seemed better to you. which speaks so many volumes on just how twisted your ethics are that we hardly need to say another word. in the meantime, if you can't explain to YOURSELF where the 5 miles deep water came from (remembering there has never been enough in our system to do more than flood low lying coastal areas - even if all ice melted and all rain in atmosphere fell), then you probably should take some time out to consider where your faith has led you. or you could just visit that website AA linked, and think about become a rational christian.

 

Isaiah 13: 11-18 The Lord says, “I will punish ...

Ahh yes, the loving God of the OT - raping women, beating children to death in front of their parents ... Good stuff don't you think ?

1 Samuel 15:

More love from God - kill everything women, children, and small babies.

Would you like more ?

 

And what scientists are proving is the this God that exists is not your God.

 

1 Samuel 15 is a cracker, no?

of course the goddists will defend sky daddy with that hoary old chestnut about the amalekites being pure evil, even the babies (future evils). if pressed on the whys and wherefores as to that (i.e., why did god do such a crappy job when he made them?), they'll follow up with 'free will'. this is the same free will they claim they have even though they don't (omniscience, but they can't explain that one). just as though that covers it.

 

What is interesting is that these folks who are so ardently religious do not seem to know much about the Book they worship.

What they really worship is man made dogma created by some fundamentalist extremist. This dogma often has little to do with the Bible or even mainstream Christianity.

Ignorance is bliss.

 

I come back to the problem of them being left to fend for themselves, sans life raft, in the relatively new post-faith era.

They've only ever had to 'defend' (and defending christianity in the goode ole days was about as difficult as defending a mack truck from a butterfly - such was the infinitesimally puny nature of challenges then) with staples like "god loves you and wants you to be happy", or "evil in the world is caused by satan".

We're seeing the fall out from 2000 years of failing to address the flaws in the dogma. Or, 2000 years of ignoring the icky bits on the assumption no one would notice them.

 

Stop[ making things up no where in Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. said anything about killing babies or innocent children. Your frankness to be deceitful if truly amazing.

Again please read if you can read or know how to read and tell me where in Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. said killing innocent babies and children?

Yes ALERT! ALERT! WARNING! WARNING! STTRAWMAN ON THE LOSE!

The issue is that you keep insisting that there were innocent babies and children when clearly Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. said nothing of it.

 

I know your post is a chit chat between your buddies ill talking about me for that I have every right to respond to such gossips. You are indeed wasting bandwidth with all your off topics posting the idiocy is that you don't think you are.

I treat my fellow man very well that is why I share with them the True Words of God and I know that God is with me because I am on His side

 

I agree ignorance is bliss that is why we share with you all the true Words of God

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What scientist have been proving is their version of God such as the God-particle they think God is this sub atomic particle.

 

Is that the Noah's flood gospel Genesis 6:5? I don't think so.
I will be glad to discuss with you all those Gospels after we are done with Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. the gospel that you and your buddies can not find the honesty to admit that nothing was said about killing innocent babies or children. Will you be that maverick to admit that Genesis 6:5 said nothing about killing innocent babies? So that we can move on to discuss 1 Samuel 15?

I think this thread is becoming TOUGH QUESTIONS THAT ATHEIST HAVE NO ANSWER

 

There seems to be at least 3 options.
1) They were children and babies, considered innocent until a certain age, and killed in the noah flood
2) They were wicked children and babies like everyone else in all the corners of the world and killed in the flood. But wicked and evil children go against christian belief.
3) As you suggested, they were all eaten by adults.

Take your choice. You've claimed all 3 so far.

 

If you're not an atheist, why are you anwering the question? WanRen specifically said, "Here is one question I have for atheist;...."

If you're not an atheist, he doesn't want to hear from you, he wants atheists to anwer the question. Maybe if you tell him what your beliefs are he will have a question regarding your belief.

Regarding your opinion, maybe for some atheist, it is evidence for them that God exists when they find themselves praying to Him for comfort and things do change for them in a positive way. It has been asserted by various theists that atheists do not exist and that atheists are actively suppressing their belief and knowledge of God and enigmatically engage in self-deception and in the deception of others.

And so when times get really rough for them it wouldn't be surprising if some of them do seek the comfort from God and cry out to Him for His divine help. Then of course when things get better for them, some of them go back into their mode of suppressing their belief and knowledge of God but others might find themselves moving closer and be more accepting of God.

 

I have not said anything about Genesis 6:5 and nor do I care. The fact is that that God either commanded or caused the killing of innocent babies. What does it matter which book ? The fact of the matter is that it is clearly stated in the Bible that God killed children and I gave you passages where this is stated directly.

Genesis 6:5 says nothing about killing. It is Genesis 6:7 where God states that he will destroy man kind (obviously this includes women and children and only a complete idiot - knowing what God did = flood- would think that this somehow did not include women and children)

I am not an atheist but I find it hard to believe that you have come up with a tough question. In general what I have found that you run away when I ask you tough questions.

You have yet to respond to my post about "magic" and how you believe in a trickster God.

 

You think that sharing your ignorance is going to make others ignorant such that they will be blissful ? LOL humor

Scientists do not actually think the particle is God. Good gracious.

 

You forgot that it was your friend Alpha that claim # 1 and You claim # 2 while I with # 3 as you suggested is in respond to your #1 and # 2 without # 1 and # 2 there will be no # 3. So are you going to continue to lie to yourself?