Part 15 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

My reading comprehension tells me that you do not think WanRen is capable of defending himself. Thanks for the admission.

 

Your reading comprehension is seemingly based upon presumption as you obviously DO NOT KNOW what I think or "do not think". Presumptions require proof of claim because you are presenting that/those presumptions as an evidence that is supposed to support your assertion. No admission has been made that would support your assertion.

 

If you have been following as closely as you say, you will have seen his all twisting of postings to suit his own purposes. If, however, you believe that they are misinterpretations perhaps he should refrain from posting until his understanding improves. Some of my posts have been in the simplest of terms, and yet still my words have been twisted and the meanings changed.

I'm sorry. I don't see how an intelligent person such as yourself can really believe what you have posted.

 

Typical christian ... it's ok for me to do it but you better not do it or I'll get mad and print in ALL CAPITOL letters ... LOL

 

you haven't even focused on the discussion, you went off on tangent after tangent, completely ignoring my statement. If that was your misson out seems rather empty

 

Rather reminds me of Eccl. 1:2 'Meangless! Meaningless!' says the teacher. 'Utterly meaningless!' (Taken out of context admittedly).

 

This is how he avoids uncomfortable questions ... don't take it personally he does it to every one.

 

This is not about misinterpreting scripture. It is about someone claiming I said something I did not.... over and over and over again.

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Why on earth would you make such a ridiculous assumption. Where in the posts is anything related to what you are assuming stated ?

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Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say "Worship me".

 

So based on your responses I can ask this;

1. How do you know God's morality is better than what we ourselves can discern as moral action?
2. You are admitting God killed children in the Bible, yes?

 

No. Wanren posts say that. No one has proven all the children, babies, and fetuses were cannibalized yet in noah's time. Maybe you can prove this claim for him? Doubt it.

 

How about helping the poster posting lies, show the poster the distortions and twists of others posts. Then maybe that poster won't post lies.

 

The wrong interpretation or lack of english skills went by the wayside over a year ago. This poster is doing this twisting and distorting on purpose. Plain and simple. A disgrace to the christian religion.

 

Birds of a feather.

 

What proof this is a metaphor and not literal? Are you claiming it is a metaphor?

 

pretty much.

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well I find it common among people with false or weak faith. They can't really answer the tough questions they just bounce around them.

 

Well, I have read every post on this thread. I have also stated my position of noticing where he presented his interpretation of what you stated. Notice also, that I also suggested that he MIGHT have misinterpreted what you said. I never said that he did nor did I say that I believe that he did. I only pointed out the possibility and lo and behold, you jump to conclusions and attempt to turn my words into a 'belief'. Shame on you.

Are you suggesting that intelligent people should not believe in possibilities? That is what I posted... the observation of a possibility. Shame on all those scientists who have spent thousands upon thousands of hours in dedication to their belief in various possibilities.

 

Oh my goodness. Did you get offended by my use of all capital letters. Perhaps you should look back at some of the non-theists postings where there is a far greater use of the all capital statements. That was a pitiful attempt on your part.

 

Oh so you prefer to overlook that portion of my post where I addressed that very point. OK... that point of him misinterpreting what you said must not have been very important to you.

 

He did not misinterpret what I said.

 

That is not where the claim "all you do is tell lies" came into play. As for me attempting to "prove this claim for him"... naaah.. that is his argument.

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Well, why don't you do what you are seemingly suggesting that someone else do.? BTW: who is the "poster posting lies"? Can you show PROOF of claim that lies have been told?

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That is another positive claim. Can you provide PROOF of that claim?

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There is that possibility of both: it being a metaphor and me claiming that it is a metaphor.... bear in mind now... I only said it is a possibility.

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Show PROOF of claim.

 

See you are talking in two tongue here you said you admit that God destroyed humanity because they were evil and you would also said that God killed the babies. Which is it? Did God killed the babies or the wicked people that God punish killed the babies?

When did I said that Job's family were evil? Now I can say you are lying. Listen clearly and carefully Job's family were killed by Satan because Satan want to proof to God that Job's reason to be successful in life is because of God's grace not because of Job's own faith. So yes you are mischaracterising Job, God and Satan you are making Satan the good guy.

Nope clearly you are lying it's crystal clear from your own words.

There is nothing for me to distort about Genesis 6, story of Job or about the Amalekites unlike you.

King Sihon did what he has always been doing waging wars against others until finally God put an end to his evil campaign. Just like the Pharaoh that refused to let the Hebrews go free God knew that King Sihon will not let the Hebrews pass through peacefully.

What King Sihon was led to the destruction of his people. You think it is good for people like King Sihon is justify to terrorized others. Example the destruction of Berlin, Hiroshima, Nagasaki do you blame the Allied forces or do you blame Hitler and the Emperor of Japan?

So you do admit Satan is evil? If you do then why you keep blaming God?

And I have always respond and corrected your distorted understanding about the Bible specially about God. Remember God is the good guy there is nothing for me to to contradict myself on that nor for me to be disingenuous about. Brainwashing are for those who can not accept truth.

 

God killed babies in more than one instance. In the flood story Gods reason for killing babies is given .. "the people were evil"

In another story later on God kills babies for different reasons.

 

Both God and Satan were responsible for the killing of Jobs family. You have already admitted this.

 

Where did I lie ?

 

Now you are making stuff up again. King Sihon is not said to have waged wars against others.

It was God that made Sihon refuse the Israelite request for passage.

Just because Hitler was evil does not mean Stalin was not evil.