Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

How does any form of monotheism account for Lord Action's statement regarding forms of absolutism?

 

Yup, typical twisting of facts, that is why I need to keep on posting about the facts and truth just can not let this kind of fallacy get away, call me hypocrite for not turning the other cheek, or for refusing not to fight back, but the truth is more important and I am sure that my God is fully supportive of my action in not allowing falsehood to triumph.

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Yup, typical twisting of facts, that is why I need to keep on posting about the facts and truth just can not let this kind of fallacy get away, call me hypocrite for not turning the other cheek, or for refusing not to fight back, but the truth is more important and I am sure that my God is fully supportive of my action in not allowing falsehood to triumph.

 

do you mean your god is cheering you on personally? does this mean he's following this thread?

 

Who was persecuting Christians after Constantine ? no Sir .. It was Christians that were doing the persecuting .. Conversion by the sword.

You do not seem to know anything about the history of the Church .. this is unfortunate

 

You are right that the Pope was involved ... and should be punished at the end of days.

The history of the Pope's is not a very happy one .. unfortunately. First thing they did upon gaining power normally was to put all their relatives in positions of power. If they were not diddling little boys or raping nuns they were torturing people who disagreed with them, stealing from people (by calling them heritics so they could take their land and wealth) or persecuting Jews.

The King of France was broke. The Templars .. having a network of people from Jerusalem to Europe .. became rather wealthy and acted as bankers. The King was heavily in debt to the templars and he and the Pope did a money grab.

 

Exactly .. and one of the reasons the founding Fathers put separation of Church and State into the constution by forbiding congress to make laws based on religion.

The founders had good reason for this as they knew well how the Church had persecuted people.

 

Yup, . just like He is watching you in shock.

 

I'm the one twisting facts? Man... haha, just go through this thread through your claims. Bill Nye believes there was a Great Flood as told by the Bible? Okay. The Crusades were only reactions to Muslim expansion? Okay. Christians were being persecuted for 1,200 more years after Constantine the Great made it the empire's religion? YEAH OKAY.

Just keep on digging yourself deeper into a hole.

 

Constantius II and Valens emperor of Rome after Constantine passed away, these two emperors embrace the heretical Arianism and persecuted Catholics. It will be the co-emperors Gratian and later Theodosius after succeeding Valens that would stand up and defend the Catholic in the end Theodosius will re-establish the Catholic as the official Roman religion not Arianism.

No sir, it was the Muslims who were persecuting Christians, Jews entire Jewish towns were cleans in Mecca and Medina by your Mohammed, and history is very clear on that, conversation and submission by the sword; Sura 9 verse of the sword.

You do not seem known anything about Islamic history, world history and theological history.

 

And Catholics continue to be true Christians in spite of all these evil and wicked Christians who have exploited and abuse Catholicism for their own wicked ambition, Christians have the will to police their own.

 

Yup you read me right, you are twisting facts. You have no answer or refuse to give a straight answer, here it is again; without Muslim aggression would there be a Crusade yes or no?

You or was it somebody else, who claim or imply that Muslim warlords were in collusion with the Catholic west because the Catholic west for 600 years did nothing while Muslim armies were ravaging and destroying the entire Middle East Christendom?
Bill Nye and majority of scientist do accept that a great flood is part or was part in the shaping of the earth's geographical features, so far you can not provide any proof video or written that scientist do not believe flood or an ancient great flood happen or can shape the earth's features.

Actually the soils I keep on digging is drowning you.

 

An analysis of Lot and his skanky daughters can fill a thick book. But consider the wine part. They had to leave Sodom in a hurry. Momma got zapped and became a salt shaker. The hole up in a cave far from Sodom. But despite their arduous and terrifying journey they manage to lug enough booze to enable them to get stoned out of their minds and engage in wild sex with Daddy. Daddy is so blasted that he doesn't know who he's having sex with but he can still perform. The end result is that they end up with enough kids to start two new tribes.

Compare that to the townspeople who just wanted to have sex with Lot's strange house guests. Lot was going to pimp his daughters off so that he could play hide the sausage with his house guests all by himself. And in one sentence the girls seemed to have been single but in the next one they were married. Their husbands stayed and were killed. What a sick bunch of perverts.

 

Blatant fabrications. Just about all of the answers are nothing but blatant fabrications and no real proof to back any of it up.

 

Ya, they did a great job with their christian priests raping children......

 

Yeah a great job at sweeping it under the rug. How evil.

 

Stop this madness ... Please

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_persecution_of_paganism_under_Constantius_II

Note that it was Christians doing the persecuting .. not being persecuted. There are tens of thousands examples of this over the next 1000 years.

Get a grip. The history books are littered with the Church persecuting people.

I never said that Islam was good ?? They were doing things that were just as bad .. Muhammad based his playbook on Christianity.

 

"continue to be true Christians" What does this even mean ? I will grant that Catholics as a group are better these days than the fundimentalist evengelicals and Pentacostals .. but there is no hard and fast definition of what a "true" Christian is.

Regardless .. this has nothing to do with the evils of the past.

 

That is very silly when you realize that the secular government replaced Heresy with Treason for exactly the same reasons.

In both cases the idea was to outlaw rebels against the authority inherent in the Political Institution.
In each of the seven possible political systems, the law is immediately passed that makes opposition to its authority a high crime.

For 1000 years, the Theocracy of universal Christianity outlawed grouos of people reconstructing their own private Bible interpretations and hence establishing a basis for behaving otherwise. Heresy is a crime that is comparable to what the South attempted in 1860.

 

Christian scholars have wrote down everything the good and bad unlike Muslims that have use force censorship with brutal repercussion against anyone who dare to reveal the truth. As there are many persecution committed by sinful men there were also many worthy Christians who stood up against tyranny.

Christian missionaries and monastery have help to save thousands that were being persecuted and hunted, it is unfortunate that anti Catholic, anti Christian groups tend to concentrate on the bad guys not on the good guys and they like to throw all the bad guys into the same basket with the good guys. Without the Catholic church we will be 500 years behind and this modern world as we know it will be none existence.

Mohammed base his play book on heretical Christian books not the Holy Bible and he expanded and made it worse by creating his own book call quran.

 

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The Universal Theocracy that worshipped Jesus and dismantled Paganism, destroyed the old temples, and erased the mythologies that had existed for millennia was LEGALLY established by the Political Institution under Emperor Theo I.

That Thoecracy was never "persecuting" christian memebrs of that Theocracy, but merely maintaining the singular authority of the Political Institution that had been instituted legally. It opposed every attempt to undermine the Theocrady with competingrebel theologies and theologians, even the muslims and the Jews among them.



Rev. 20:4 And I saw thrones (of Universal Christian authority) and they, (the 144,000 monks of Catholic monasticism: [Rev14:4]), sat upon them, (i.e.; Christianity, as mandated by Emperor Theo I, was the ONLY legal religion in the Empire, after 380AD), and (theocratic) judgment was given unto them (in the days of Catholic Monasticism): and I saw the souls, (the spirit-like psyches or thinking) of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the (one) word of God, (Truth), and which had not worshipped (by participation in the paganistic practices and sexual excesses fueling) the beast (that was Roman Culture, including the economic system which had been based upon selfish self-interest), neither his image (on his coinage), neither had received his mark (of ledgered accounts recorded) upon their foreheads, or in (wages in) their hands (those monks living in moneyless monastic environments);

and they, (the saints/apostles), lived (as angels in the minds of the Christians who have followed since the appearance of the Gospels in 54AD, i.e., those beheaded saints, in the memories of the congregations who worshipped in churches built upon the bones of their remains)...
.... and (they) reigned (in Monasticism) with Christ a thousand years, (from 54 AD upon the appearance of the Holy Comforter, until 1054 AD with the first Schism of Greek Orthodoxy).

 

you throw all the Muslims in the same basket...

And christian missionaries....look 'em up especially in connection with Native Americans...what those "christians" did to them was abominable!

 

Of course there would be. Muslims were not the only people that the Crusades targeted. Did you not know that Constantinople fell to the Crusaders? Did you not know that there was a crusade that exterminated an entire sect of Christianity in southern France?

I claimed that it was idiotic to call the Crusades a result of Muslim expansion considering that Jerusalem had been held for over 600 years while the Church just sat on its ass. The Church waited for a prime opportunity to gain power and make money, and they got it with the Byzantine emperor's call for help. There is nothing more to it.

I don't have to prove you wrong, you have to prove that the scientists actually believe in some sort of great flood. I already posted an interview of Bill Nye's where he called the Bible stories unreasonable and outlandish. The burden of proof is on you to show that Bill Nye believes a Great Flood covered the entire Earth with water 6,000 years ago because all evidence points to the contrary.

 

Just like you throw all Christians in one basket....

The Native Americans would have suffer more seriously if the Muslims have manage to colonize America, the entire native culture will be wipe out, women will be totally discriminated and mummified, school girls will not be allowed to get an education, we have seen what Muslims have done in countries that they have occupied, colonize and Islamize.

 

... The Native Americans' culture would have been wiped out? What do you think the Spanish and Colonists did? Did you never read about The Trail of Tears?

 

Really...LOL!