Part 21 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

1. http://www.ancient.eu/religion/ http://www.ancient.eu/hinduism/ http://www.ancient.eu/pyramid/ http://www.ancient.eu/Hathor/ http://www.ancient.eu/christianity/ http://www.patheos.com/Library/Judaism.html
2. http://www.beingjewish.com/conversion/becomingjewish.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbi http://www.ucmjs.com/messianic_rabbi_qualifications.htm
Matthew 23:15, he one of the 12 Apostles of Christ that Judaism rejects.
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. Exactly what leaders of Judaism are doing imposing obstacles by nationalizing Judaism.
3. True Christians are those who worship Jesus Christ is God. Others who claim to be Christians and do not worship Christ are intentionally distorting facts inorder to confuse Christians. Muslims at least do not claim to be Christians because they do not worship Jesus Christ unlike Mormons, Jehova's Witnesses etc.
4. Christianity has learn from its past history not only has it been involved in persecution of others it is also involved in defending and promotion of modern civilization while Islam continues to pursue persecution and atheist have been too busy forgetting that their history is filled with persecution of others too especially against Christians.
5. Judaism is wrong not because I or Christianity say so but because Judaism have made it wrong.

 

history books don't claim magical happenings, dear. utterly and completely different.

 

Yes. You're quite judgmental. I suggest to take the beam from your eye.

 

That is why I use history books as references.

 

what the hell?

you used history books as a comparison for superstition books, which is patently absurd.

 

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1. I've looked at your first 2 references and they bear no reference to the point in question so I will go no further.
2. It has nothing to do with that at all. I could explain it to you but I doubt you would understand it within the context of Matthew 23. And don't bring up all these Jewish conversion sites. I know exactly what you have to do to become a Jew, and the consequences.
3. Rubbish. This is their genuine belief, just like you believe you're right.
4. Christians are still killing in parts of the world.
5. Jews would not agree with you there. Judaism could not be wrong on your say so, as your say so is only your interpretation of Jewish Scriptures.

 

Did you just seriously state, that early religions corrupted the 10 commandments before they were written? And you still want to claim the christian faith?

 

?? You consider history books, Tanankh, Quran, the Bible superstition books!

 

1. In that case your research and studies are incomplete. You need to read and study all ancient histories especially their religion, Theology not just one religion but all known religions such as Greek mythology, Norse, Roman, Incas, Hindu, Chinese mythology etc.
2. Matthew was one of the Twelve I am beginning to doubt that you really understood Judaism and Christianity the leadership of Judaism rejected Matthew just like they rejected Christ.If you know exactly what it takes to be a Jew then you should have understood what Christ was telling the Pharisees in Matthew 23: 5 - 37 that is why they rejected Christ because they don't consider him to be a Jew.
3. It is their genuine false beliefs just like when they started to worship the golden calf. Christ came to correct their false beliefs and they rejected it because they refused to relinquish their power and control.
4. Agnostics and atheist are committing many crimes and killing in this world as well.
5. Jews will agree that is why we have Christian Jews. The first Christians were Jews we Christians worship Jesus Christ which actually is a Jewish God. Leadership of Judaism got it wrong not because of us but because of them. Just like you reject the historical evidences they too are doing the same.

 

Did you just confirm that the Ten Commandments are borrowed from the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi as claim by Margot2?

 

I think your pulling everyone's leg again. There is a poster(master) that has stated many times that Jesus is not God. You've never questioned the poster. So I don't believe you believe jesus is god. More word twisting on your part.

 

No, I did not.

And you didn't answer the question. How typical of you and the master.

 

You can confirm both yourself.. Its a matter of education.

 

Tripe.

And you have studied all these? Take your own advice, you need the knowledge.

Messianic Jews accept Jesus as their messiah and Saviour. Yet they still follow many Jewish ways, rituals, festivals etc despite the fact Jesus was supposed to have fulfilled all these things. (Even the early christians, inc Peter and Paul, did this). Messianic Jews do not attend Pauls 'communion' service and it's their sins that are against the Torah which are forgiven. As the Torah is now considered by many Jews as allegorical that's not much help.

I dare you to go into a synagogue and tell them that Jesus Christ is a Jewish God.

You post a lot of rubbish.

 

As the Torah is now considered by many Jews as allegorical that's not much help.

Many Jewish people value education............. Rambam is an interesting study.

 

There is a difference between "History" and Religious texts in general but sometimes the suffer from the same problem and this must be kept in mind.

Have you ever heard the phrase "History is written by the victorious/winner". This means that the history is biased towards the winning side because they wrote the history and cast themselves in a favorable light.

This is just a true about Religious writing. Some of the most obvious edits, omissions and changes to the Bible was to make the passage or book in question better conform to the dogma of the day.

The second issue with religious writings that it is not "history" per say but some person writing about religious beliefs. Was Mohammad really transported to mecca where by and angel where he met with Jesus, Moses an Abraham ? That's what the book says.

Did the Angel Moroni really lead Joseph Smith to new religious texts (the book of Mormon) written on Gold ?

The question is not whether one is more credible than the other. The fact is that we do not know for sure whether any of it is credible never mind 100% true.

 

The Qu'ran is not a history book. It is a 'theological' book.

 

Who ever that poster is I am sure he never claim he is a Christian because he / she knows that Christians worship Jesus Christ unlike others who claim to be Christians and yet they do not worship Jesus Christ these are the ones that I question.

 

It wasn't up to me to answer your question it is up to Margot2 since he was the one that claim the Ten Commandments was borrowed from the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi. Unless you are saying he was wrong? If that is so then I would agree with you but I am sure that you would not want me to agree with you either.

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dairy seem's to agree with you that the Ten Commandments were from the Egyptian Book of the Dead and the Code of Hammurabi and he also disagree with me that it is not.

 

We already know what will happen to anyone who dare to go into the synagogue to tell the leaders of Judaism they were wrong and Jesus Christ is right. Jesus Christ was crucified because he went into the synagogue to tell them they are wrong and for that he was crucified.
Jewish tradition is separate from following or worshiping Christ. Leaders of Judaism has made Jewish tradition as worshiping God base on their rules. Matthew 23:5-37 made it very clear how those leaders made God's religion their religion.