Part 21 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. Mitt Ryan

    Mitt Ryan Well-Known Member

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    Part 21 is a continuation of Post your tough questions pertaining to God/Jesus/Holy Bible and I will do my best to clarify and make sense of it to those who are unaware...I still have questions and comments I haven't responded to in Part 6 thru 20.
    Also I might answer questions that are on other members threads and so this will keep me real busy with the many questions that I will answer from my point of view/perspective keeping in line with Scripture.

    I don't want my intentions to come across as converting you or whatever lol... but rather clear up things etc... so ask away.
     
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    do you ever feel bad about claiming knowledge where you have none?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If this is true it means the threads are moving increasingly faster than you can answer which means we will all literally die before the questions that are asked will be answered unless you get help. Is there anyone else you can pull in to help field the questions? Preferably a scholar in the subject.
     
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    [​IMG] Originally Posted by Incorporeal [​IMG]
    Am I supposed to be impressed or dismayed by your opinion?[/quote]

    'Dignity'??? Why on Earth would I want to do that when I am trying my level best to kill the ego. What 'cult' am I supposed to be a member of?
     
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    The Bible is the word of God. It's accuracy is uncanny and especially that
    the same storyline is kept throughout some 1,500 years without
    contradiction and without seeing what the other was writing. Archeology
    is constantly finding more evidence that the Bible is real. The prophecies
    of the coming of the Messiah coming true with great detail.

    That's enough for me.


    1) what does 'its accuracy is uncanny' mean? what is it accurate to, or with?
    2) the same storyline is kept for 1500 years in exactly the manner that the Australian Aboriginal Dreamtime stories have been kept for 60,000 years. and they didn't have books to copy from.
    3) there are plenty of contradictions in the bible
    4) what is it that archAeologists are finding which is evidence that the supernatural claims are true?
    5) prophecies fulfilled like "I will return in your lifetime", followed by 2000 years of silence?
     
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    the jesus death cult, of course.

    dignity is a by-product of humility and honesty. when both coexist, considerable dignity is the result. let's not forget that dignity is not a feeling (that would be pride), but a perception of the beholder.
     
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    I have never heard of that one. Where and when was it founded? Noticing how you have an Hispanic name involved, it might have been in some Hispanic country, correct? Was that Jesus Rodriguez by any chance?

    I don't see those items mentioned in the definitions, other than as an example in definition #2.
    "dig·ni·ty (d[​IMG]g[​IMG]n[​IMG]-t[​IMG])n. pl. dig·ni·ties 1. The quality or state of being worthy of esteem or respect.
    2. Inherent nobility and worth: the dignity of honest labor.
    3. a. Poise and self-respect.
    b. Stateliness and formality in manner and appearance.

    4. The respect and honor associated with an important position.
    5. A high office or rank.
    6. dignities The ceremonial symbols and observances attached to high office.
    7. Archaic A dignitary."
     
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    oy vay
     
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    And that is all you have to say?
     
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    I don't have to manipulate any language of science because science and the Bible are not in conflict with each other.
    Are you trying to manipulate the truth such as scientist got it wrong to claim that the world did experienced a global climatic event that is comparable or equivalent to magnitude describe in Noah's flood? Are scientist wrong to warn us that global climate disaster will happened if human do not change their abused of the environment?
    Are historians wrong to say that a man name Jesus of Nazareth was crucified because he refused to deny he is the Son of God. Jesus of Nazareth that change the brutal world of Rome? Jesus of Nazareth like Buddha and Gandhi are they not real?
    Are you saying that scientist are wrong to say that every living things evolved from a single source or that by classifying each creature according to their kind was a mistake?
    I can understand your denial and rejecting the Bible but science and history! Well, you can deny everything that is related to the Bible but you cannot deny facts, history and truth to deny them all is intentional ignorance.

     
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    The thread has move this far because we have answered so many tough questions and more are being ask and we will continue to answer with fair, truthfulness but most of all with scholarly discipline and knowledge.
     
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    No it is not a correct statement it is your statement a very astonishing why is it that you are imposing rules on Christians?
    We can be in Heaven as long as we are not evil in fact if you are a good person as you have claim you are you too will be welcome in Heaven but as you have publicly stated you will not want to enter Heaven even if it is eternal happiness and good.
    I have always answer your questions with yes or no just like this one I answered you with a no it is you that have dance around your own questions and avoid my answers.
     
  13. Mitt Ryan

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    Let's not forget that God didn't totally annihilate His creation.

    So when someone has a view that doesn't align with yours you find it necessary to resort to insults? Can't you just respect and have tolerance for others who do not agree with your beliefs without resorting to insults? Why such hostility?

    Let's be honest here, there is absolutely no conclusive evidence that the Great Flood happened/didn't happen.

    Furthermore it is conceivable and plausible that it could have happened. I have already presented logical explanations in previous posts of mine regarding the plausibility of the Great Flood of Noah.
     
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    Prunepicker quote from Part 20


    No it isn't. Archaeology is telling us what is true and what isn't. It gives no confirmation of events recorded before Israel actually in Canaan.
    We have no evidence that a Jewish Moses existed. Or of any Exodus, desert wanderings or savage entry into
    While archaeology is useful, it is useful for and against Biblical references.

    As to the same storyline. The Tanakh was written around the middle of the 1st century BCE. Close enough for scribes to work together.
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    There is also NO evidence that Joshua defeated the Canaanites who also paid tribute to Egypt..
     
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    No according to Mit he is still working on thread 6. We ask one question and we have to drag the answers out of you and when we get a response they are varied. How many times have I asked you where in the bible it states heaven is located in another dimension or its a sphere? This is where you say you answered when you didn't.
     
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    Then....why did you?
     
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    SOOOO we can now get into your heaven without accepting your god or jesus as long as we are not evil is that correct?
    MITT DO YOU AGREE? Is Mitt even still here?

    John 3:36
    Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

    Matthew 19:23-24
    And Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly, I say to you, only with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

    John 11:25
    Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live,
     
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    Excellent. I'll let all the good atheists, satanists, pagans, hindus, and muslims know :)
     
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    Can I recuse myself from this place.....I heard it's full of Christians.

    Sounds a bit like that "Other Place" to me.
     
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    You mean I have to drag you out to the truth. And I answer you where in the Bible that deny the existence of Heaven? You ask where it is I told you exactly where it is it is in the spirit world, in another sphere or in another dimension and the Bible is very clear on that "My Kingdom is not of this World" the fact is you don't understand what is spirit world you have this atheist impression that heaven is a material place somewhere on earth or outer space.
    This is where I respond that you can not understand your own question to the point that you claim you have your own heaven and hell that is exactly located here and there in the planet and then you contradict yourself by saying it is an imaginary thing in other words it does not exist. How can you understand my very elementary answer Spirit world if you can not understand your own question.
    So going back to your question "where is heaven and hell?" To answer that you need to establish your understanding on this questions: Let us start slow do you know what is spirit world is? Do you believe in life after death?
    You will never find Heaven or Hell here on earth because it is not located anywhere in this planet not here>>>>>> or there<<<<<<< it is in the spirit world when you die that is where your soul will go if you do not believe in a soul or life after death then heaven and hell will be none existence to you it still will not change that when you die your soul will go either to heaven or hell and since you already publicly said you will never want to enter heaven then I feel sorry for you that you chose hell over heaven :(
     
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    Queston to MittRyan....


    If a Christian believes in something about Christianity, that is not part of...or even goes against... Biblical teaching.....

    do they go to Hell?
     
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    You mean you can not accept what science has discovered that all indicate to agree with what is in the Bible? And because Christians agreed with science you have problem with that?
    So now please do not make claims that I have not answer your questions in fact I answered your questions base on science and facts because I know you do not accept the Bible and yet you deny science.
     
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    If I May.....Each Christian is not a Christian to some other Christian and therefor not a Christian in the eyes of one Christians God, thus will be damned to hell. In reality there is actually only one(1) Christian on this Earth in the minds of Christians...that being themselves. There are however as many Gods as there are Christians depending on what they each interpret it to be.
     
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    So now you will accept God's grace to enter Heaven?
    Mitt is correct because to be good or to be not evil and wicked is to accept God and God will be with them. "Today you will be with me in Paradise" "Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
    Nice Biblical verses John 3:36 , John 11:25, Matthew 19:23-24.
    It is good to see that you use the Bible as a source of reference on how to be closer to God.
     
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