Part 26 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. dairyair

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    Not is that particular post, in this post you try to imply you are better or above the poster, but the previous post to same person. Do you deny the personal attack? Is that what the HS expresses for you to do? If so, I'd be vary cautious about these voices being the HS. If not, why do you commune with the HS and ignore the messages and make snide remarks?
     
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    Then you must communicate with the HS through your feet. For if your mind isn't processing the communication, it must be your feet. And for most all of humanity, the processing of information is in the brain and resides in the head.
     
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    While not knowing personally. Charles Manson was one.
     
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    No attack, simply explain fact:

    "Schizophrenia is a severe, chronic, and generally disabling brain and behavior disorder. It is most accurately described as a psychosis - a type of illness that causes severe mental disturbances that disrupt normal thoughts, speech, and behavior. Schizophrenia is believed to be caused by a combination of genetic and environmental factors.

    Positive symptoms may include delusions, thought disorders, and hallucinations. People with schizophrenia may hear voices other people don't hear, or believe other people are reading their minds, controlling their thoughts, or plotting to harm them. Negative symptoms may include avolition (a lack of desire or motivation to accomplish goals), lack of desire to form social relationships, and blunted affect and emotion. Cognitive symptoms involve problems with attention and memory, especially in planning and organization to achieve a goal. Cognitive deficits are the most disabling for patients trying to lead a normal life."

    https://bbrfoundation.org/schizophr...NKzBMNdfQPt9sHGQKIpT0TL7DCoaImGyjgaAq_38P8HAQ

    That you could not manage to understand that was my point...is in no way flattering to your intellect.
     
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    Then again, it might be your interpretation of what I stated. After all you stated "you try to imply"... which would mean IMO that there is no real implied message, but rather only what you perceive to be an implied message. Why do you make snide remarks? "I'd be cautious.." Then perhaps you should be cautious.
     
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    Secularized Courts? Yet you still swear on the Bible unless you ask to affirm.

    The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled on February 2 that under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993, Rastafarian defendants should be allowed to show that they use marijuana for bona fide religious reasons in their defense against charges of possession of marijuana
    Admitted this was 1996. I don't know if this has changed since, but I don't think so.
     
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    No! Most courts in the US don't even mention the 'Bible' during a swearing in .... they almost all just ask the person for affirmation.

    That citation only confirms that the courts are obligated under the Constitution to place no favoritism toward any religion wherein a bias or prejudice could be claimed. Also, the use of marijuana is not the equivalent of saying either the 'Devil made me do it' or 'God told me to do it'. Saying that marijuana made me do it is plausible and justifiable because of what the scientifically known results of marijuana use can be.
     
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    Shell games with Statism would be more fun if I could do it on a for-profit basis. I merely claim that a plant that was alleged to have been Created by a god and declared Good and not Bad, cannot be bad and not good, even if a majority of "original sinners" prefers to attempt to deny and disparage that form of Individual Liberty while not calling it Socialism.
     
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    Your Jewish point of view is your personal point not what Jewish scholars accept Jewish scholars do not recognize and accept atheist and agnostic interpretation of their scriptures that is why you are trying hard to sell your personal Jewish opinion here.

    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
    Martin Luther King, Jr.


    Too many people have a stone brain that they can not accept historical facts thanks to the fact that there are enough Christians in the world we are able to preserve and share the truth.
    What is very interesting is that you share the same ideas with dairy now????:date:
     
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    Well, I agree with the 'Bible' wherein it stated (paraphrased) that 'all that was created was created good'. Therefore, it is man that deems something to be evil, but then again, the 'Bible' also states that God created evil... and everything that God created is good; but man says that marijuana is evil (bad)... so who is right and who is wrong?
     
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    As always you contradicted yourself again how can the Romans acted on their own free will if God is controlling them? God allow the Romans to act on their own accord under their own free will. And because the Romans were acting from their own free will they chose not rule under the authority of the Christian God that is a historical fact.

    That is why atheist, homosexuals enjoy great security and freedom because they live in a Christian oriented nation with laws that respect their rights they would not enjoy in Muslim or atheist communist countriesthis is a historical fact also.


    I have said many times the Pharisees (Jews) disagree with Christianity just like they disagree with your interpretation of their Tanakh. The fact remains the same that the Tanakh is part of Christian historicity. Atheist and agnostic interpretation of Christians and Jewish history is all wrong.

    The Jewish Messiah is the Christ and Jews knew that that is why it was the Jews who were the first to recognize that and it would be the Jews that would spread the good news to the whole world as well it would be the Pharisees that would reject that and this again is historical fact.


    A Jewish sect of what followers of Jesus Christ? and who are followers of Jesus Christ? It was consider by those who knew nothing about Christ or Judaism that followers of Christ were just another Jewish sect but for those who knew like the Pharisees the followers of Christ are for them not another Jewish sect and soon the Romans will realized that and again this is historical fact that you are intentionally denying.


    Christianity is the continuation of the Tanakh, Christianity came about because the Pharisees rejected Christ. Islam, JW, Mormons, Arianism, Nestorians other heretcis, Agnostic and atheist have interpreted the Tanakh with corruption all trying to create their own. The Bible and the Tanakh are One.

    You have deny almost everything historical see all the red. My view are base on historical records while your are base on your personal bias not only against Christianity but against the Jews.

    I know you take great pleasure in studying just like many of us here the difference you use historical knowledge with bias to feed your own imagination in order and just to discredit Christianity but what is happening is that you are only exposing and revealing your many historical errors and that is a shame and not very scholarly.
     
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    I merely claim that a plant that was alleged to have been Created by a god and declared Good and not Bad, cannot be bad and not good, even if a majority of "original sinners" prefers to attempt to deny and disparage that form of Individual Liberty while not calling it Socialism.
     
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    Yeah... that is part of what you said in your former posting. Do I also need to reprint my former posting?
     
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    Your posting was a non-sequitur. A plant that was alleged to have been Created by a god and declared Good and not Bad, cannot be bad and not good, even if a majority of "original sinners" prefers to attempt to deny and disparage that form of Individual Liberty while not calling it Socialism.

    Your point doesn't matter due to the (Perfect) Knowledge of Good and Evil acquired by Man; critical reasoning applies.
     
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    But is does allow religion to be taken into account. Therefore it is hardly secular.

    "You do solemnly state that the testimony you may give in the cause now pending before this court shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God." California

    "You do solemnly affirm, under the penalty of perjury, that the testimony you shall give in the matter in issue, pending between ______ and ______, shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth". Missouri.

    Though I agree the practise is going out.
     
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    My Jewish point of view is in accord with what the Jews believe. Ask them. In the past I have. I don't say these things without some research. This isn't my own personal interpretation. As usual you have no idea about Jewish teachings.

    Perhaps you should heed his words and change your ways.

    For the 3 rd time I ask you what Historical facts I don't accept.

    I believe dairy is a Christian. I am not. Therefore we cannot have the same ideas.
     
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    Maybe its time to start a thread where we share information and insights .. and new findings in archeology etc.. This is a bit like trying to converse with a grade school person.
     
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    Where did Margot say she didn't believe the story? I notice Mitt is agreeing with your deviousness.

    I happen to know Margot has travelled widely through the Middle East over the years, and has first hand knowledge you and I don't have.
     
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    The story is NOT about the Siloam pool.. its about the Siloam tower... which to me is very interesting because there are towers all over KSA.. every 20 miles or so.. They were watch towers or communication towers.. Apparently they could flash a signal at night to warn of an enemy on the move...

    Makes me wonder about context when it comes to the tower of Babel.
     
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    Most serious scholars understand the meaning of didactic literature... It really shouldn't be a problem for educated Christians.. It certainly isn't a problem for the devout Catholics that I know well...

    You don't have to take the short bus to be a Christian.
     
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    What a rip you put on the grade school people. Take it back. LOL.
     
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    Of course there's a school close to me which is euphemistically known as 'the school for children with learning difficulties'.
    And no, WarRen, I didn't attend there. Though as a keen gardener I do supply them with a few things for their garden 'class'.
     
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    I still believe we would be better off with a Better Religions Bureau at the UN.
     
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    No, its because a Deist penned in the separation of Church and State. As for security and freedom for homosexuals... lets see, until resent history they have stayed underground for fear of their life. Those who persecute gays are generally us theists as atheists have no God that defines marriage or proper sexual conduct thus they have no reason to persecute gays. So ironically in this case atheists in general are more accepting or at least tolerant of gays than us theists.
     
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