Part 26 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Your lies is up to you and trevor to sort it out.
If you were born baptized, confirm married as LCMS what are you now?

 

There you go not only are you contradicting reality but you are now being stupid the facts are very clear western nations this include the USA, Australia and New Zealand their laws are base on the Christian God law and authority it is very clear God is above their constitution.

"Do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God"
"I swear that the evidence that I shall give, shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God"
"I swear by Almighty God that I will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth".

So who do atheist swear to?

 

You can continue to deny but it won't change the historicity of history.
1. The Romans were not ruling under the authority of the Christian God
2. Atheist, homosexuals prosper and have safe haven in Christian oriented lands
3. Atheist, homosexuals will not prosper in Muslim and communist countries
4. The Jewish religious leaders do not recognize the Bible or Jesus Christ they do recognize his historical contribution
5. Paul did not invent or created Christianity
6. Christianity recognize the Tanakh as part of its history
7. Today modern Western government submit to the authority of the Christian God that is why we swear on the Bible
8. Christianity was instrumental in progressing modern civilization, science, medicine and philosophy
9. The Christian church since ancient times was the only public institution to officially call for the protection of Jews
10. The Christian church has the most extensive historical records keeping

Spartacus was historical as well.

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1-10 WRONG
I will agree that the Church has extensive Church Historical records. But not secular Historical records.

Spartacus was certainly historical. I never denied it. But the film wasn't. No-one knows how Spartacus died, for instance. Forget the film, it was entertainment based on some facts..

I have no pain. I love your comedy show. It keeps me amused for ages.

 

I agree forget about the film it is all for entertainment just like De Vinci Code stick to real history that Jesus Christ is for real, that Christianity are followers of Jesus Christ that the Tanakh is part of Christian history
1. The Romans were not ruling under the authority of the Christian God
2. Atheist, homosexuals prosper and have safe haven in Christian oriented lands
3. Atheist, homosexuals will not prosper in Muslim and communist countries
4. The Jewish religious leaders do not recognize the Bible or Jesus Christ they do recognize his historical contribution
5. Paul did not invent or created Christianity
6. Christianity recognize the Tanakh as part of its history
7. Today modern Western government submit to the authority of the Christian God that is why we swear on the Bible
8. Christianity was instrumental in progressing modern civilization, science, medicine and philosophy
9. The Christian church since ancient times was the only public institution to officially call for the protection of Jews
10. The Christian church has the most extensive historical records keeping

It is very sad that you laugh at your own false and made up history

 

If that were true it would be sad. Thankfully it is not. My History is confirmed by recognised History Books and not your and 'Alice in Wonderland history'.

 

Now learn.

Judah rebelled against god. For that they were condemned by God to be ruled by the Babylonians.

Jeremiah 21:3-10. God says 'I myself will fight against you with a strong hand and powerful arm, for I am very angry. You have made me furious.................................... (Read it)
.......But whoever goes out of the city and surrenders to the Babylonians who are beseiging you, will live'

Jeremiah continues Gods prophecy.

Jeremiah 27:6 onwards. God said 'Now I will hand over all your countries (Judah and the countries that fought Babylon against gods orders) over to MY SERVANT Nebuchanezzar, king of Babylon.......all nations will serve him................ If, however, any nation will not serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon or bow its neck under his yoke...........I will punish that nations with the sword...................'

There was one consolation for the Israelites.

Jeremiah 29:6-14 If they settled down under the Babylonians god promised they would be able to 'build houses and settle down, plant gardens and eat the produce. Marry and have families. Increase in number - DO NOT decrease in number. Seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you into exile. Pray for the city for if it propers, you will prosper.'...........'. To do this they would have to follow Babylonian rules.
Then, said god. after 70 years, if you do this I will release you.

Now the Jews in Pauls time were under the Roman rule because of their behaviour - probably Hellenism. In this case it was the Romans, and not the Babylonians, that ruled them.

In Judahs case god himself helped Nebuchadnezzar and allowed him to rule his (Nebuchadnezzars) way.
In the case of Rome god allowed the Romans to conquer Israel (they stepped in to stop a civil war in the Hasmonean kingdom). He also allowed (gave authority) to the Romans to rule in their secular way.

According to the Bible god allows many things for man's good, and this includes being subservient to rulers. . Paul's letter was concerned with Roman Christian's attitude to legal authority.

In spiritual matters it's different





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I notice flamebaiting is worse than lying, distorting, misquoting.It's a strange world.

 

To avoid misunderstanding by WarRen amendment to my previous 'Babylonian' post

Jeremiah 29:6-14 If they settled down under the Babylonians, god promised...............

 

Evolution does not discount the existence of Jesus the Christ. It merely contends that Homo sapiens sapiens are loyal subjects of the Animal Kingdom.

 

Here's a question :

Do real christians support torturing their god's creations?

 

If they're ex-wives - definitely.

It's a dilemma, isn't it. If you know someone has planted a bomb to kill hundreds of people, but don't know where, are you justified in using any means to try to find out, and save lives. One man's life or comfort for the loss of many.
What was it Caiaphas said 'You do not realise that it is better for you that one man to die for the people that the whole nation should not perish'.

Dilemma's, dilemma's. Life is full of them.

As it's nearly midnight should I go to bed or not? Yes.

 

I don't know how that translates into " we can act like sadistic terrorists and commit atrocities because we MIGHT stop something"

 

Any christians want to tell me that all the defenders of torture are NOT Christians??

 

I didn't say 'might'. I said if you 'knew' Torture is something that is not acceptable unless the surety of saving lives is real.
Terrorists count on the 'morals' of others to get away with atrocities.

 

But you cannot know if the person being tortured has any information or not...THAT is why he's being tortured ....and as even John McCain(and a host of others) claims, it does NOT produce reliable results...


Do you believe that Jesus, that kind, loving god, gives Christians the right to act like sadistic psychopaths because they're frightened ???


Frightened of dying and going to heaven???

THAT is enough excuse to act like terrorists, the people we allegedly are fighting against???

 

The people I'm talking about I know are guilty, I just need the information to save people lives.

Guantanamo Bay no. This was indiscriminate.

I don't know if the people I'm trying to save are frightened of dying or not. They may not even know they are under the threat of death. They certainly deserve the chance to live.

 

NO, YOU personally do NOT know they are guilty, YOU are have NO proof, you have NO way of knowing if they are guilty or not! What horrible arrogance!
You are needed in our courts! Americans don't need trials as long as you can declare who is guilty!!!
That will sure speed things up!
People who believe they have a right to torture, who use it as an excuse to satisfy their desire to inflict pain on others for fun, are terrorists...

 

What's the best way to oppress people? Simply convince them not to resist the evil man. Once that's done the evil man can toss them into the wood chipper 24/7/365.

 

Oh but I do. Just recently in our courts it was proven without doubt, and admitted by the defendant in the end, his guilt. But he would not reveal the grave of his child victim.

There are two people who were found guilty years ago of torturing and killing children but have never revealed to the families where they buried their bodies. If they are that callous then the parents of those children are the ones suffering all their lives.

These are the people I'm talking about.

I see, so God is a terrorist?

 

What's the best way to control people?

Put FEAR into them.

Convince them that if they throw away their humanity, their decency, and sink to the level of sadistic sociopaths, it will be worth it because they will be safe.

Obviously they don't even have to prove that to be true and the frightened, the cowardly, the weak, will fall for it....

 

Fear is very effective in controlling people. Religions use it as their primary method for controlling people.

In war time it's highly beneficial to realize that your enemy is trying to kill you. You need to realize that if you hope to survive the fight. When they plainly state that they are fully intent on conquering you then you should take off the ear muffs and believe what they are telling you.

If the Canaanites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites had taken the Israelites threats against them seriously maybe they would have formed a coalition and defeated them.

 

You're sure trying to get away from the fact that christians are advocating for/in gleeful favor of torture. War and torture are two different things.

Why don't we just bomb every country that we think MIGHT go to war against us?

Why don't we torture Americans who have guns to find out if they intend to kill Americans with them?

 

Just send the Army of the Duchy of Grand Fenwick. That'll sort them out.