Part 26 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Babel is actually Babylon.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 11:1-9&version=GNT;ESVUK;ISV;HCSB;CEB

 

If you think a thought but do not say it out loud do you not hear the thought as your own voice? I do. But that is far removed from claiming to hear the voice of God which I would be quite skeptical of any who make that claim.

 

Case in point that even wise men can come up with a dud from time to time. But then what is a gem to one is a turd to another. The quote is so subjective as what constitutes ignorance or stupidity is all a matter of perspective. Some say faith is stupid while others say those without faith are ignorant. In theology, the land of a theological intangible all we have is belief, faith, and a healthy dose of opinion. Then we wisely, stupidly, or ignorantly (depending upon ones perspective) present our theistic views as truth and fact to atheists and then get offended when atheist mock us.../facepalm

 

Insane asylum inmates who hear voices in their head are not more believable than Jesus or Moses, who heard "god" (voices) talk to them. If I can show people video of a person who hears voices in his head and also says "love your neighbor" and "treat people like you want to be treated", will people start praying to him?

 

The Bible hates those that are different. Kill them, or put them in a "lake of fire". No compassion. Sorry Jesus, you've failed.

 

Even I as an ardent opposer of the Bible cannot back such a strident claim. The Bible says much more than that... some good things and some bad things. You remind me of myself a few years ago when I lashed out at all things Christian. My bias towards Christianity says more about me than anything else and what it says is not good. Blind bias is never good whether its Christian bias towards atheists or atheist bias towards Christians.

 

For the record, the Bible does say some good things - love your neighbor, the golden rule, etc. But those things are just common sense so the Bible is of course not needed. You turned out fine, and you didn't follow the Bible word for word I'm sure.

 

This part of my post was completely true, however: "The Bible hates those that are different. Kill them, or put them in a "lake of fire"." Not a Christian - you burn. Gays - kill them. Are ok with premarital sex - you burn. Jesus allegedly condemned people in those 3 villages (children too, arguably) to burning, for not being like him (ie for not being superstitious and believing that magic is real.) He clearly hated them.

 

Indeed, the Bible says lots of messed up things which I find objectionable, but so long as Christians do not apply such nonsense to me I say live and let live. I do ardently oppose those Christians who want me or others to live by their dogma though.

 

Bible is actually babble.

 

The best advice in the standard Bible is found in Proverbs 1:8-19, which no one hardly ever cites. If parents taught their kids just that one passage most of their problems would never occur. That pretty much sums up the best idea in the Bible.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs 1:8-19&version=CEV;ESVUK;ISV;HCSB;CEB

 

Enmerker and the Lord of Aratta. Sumerian myth.

In those days, the lands of Subur (and) Hamazi, Harmony-tongued Sumer, the great land of the decrees of princeship, Uri, the land having all that is appropriate, the land Martu, resting in security, the whole universe, the people in unison spoke to Enlil in one tongue.
(Then) Enki, the lord of abundance (whose) commands are trustworthy, the lord of wisdom, who understands the land, the leader of the gods, endowed with wisdom, the lord of Eridu changed the speech in their mouths, [brought] contention into it, into the speech of man that had been one. (until that time).

 

As a matter of interest I have written to GotQuestions asking them why they keep accepting Luke's account of the birth of Jesus when it doesn't fit any of the facts of the time.
No recorded census
The Romans did not require people to move to their home town for any census anyway. It was done 'in situ'. In any case it would have thrown the Middle East into chaos with many hundreds of thousands (maybe more) of people of all nations reurning to their home towns. Bethlehem and a vast area would have been overwhelmed by 10s of thousands of Davids descendants returning. If they ever got there of course. Would there have been any ships? The sailors would have been included in the census. Train drivers too - camel trains of course
That there was no need to move for tax purposes as tax was on property not the person. Josephs property was in Nazareth.
Quirinius wasn't governor when Jesus was born some time before 4BCE.

7-10 days to wait for an answer, which isn't guaranteed. Be interesting.

 

This is proof that today's secular government construct their constitution and laws base on God's law, rule and authority under God.
"Do you solemnly swear or affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God"
"I swear that the evidence that I shall give, shall be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God"
"I swear by Almighty God that I will tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth".

For atheist and agnostic I guess they have to swear to the Leader.

 

Yes Jewish point of view is base on what their religious leaders taught them to be not base on your interpretation. I know more about Jewish teachings, religion, tradition and history than you that is why your understanding of Jewish history starts with the Kings very incomplete.

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Yes I have listen to Martin Luther King a great Christian and because of him the USA civil rights improved if only you would listen and learn.

Many I have highlited them all in red in fact I even wrote it this his historical facts I guess you just intentionally ignore them
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=383817&p=1064542143#post1064542143
post 637 a starter.

I guess you must have missed dairy's claims maybe that is why he hasn't responded to your claim that he is a Christian for your information dairy has claim he is many things an agnostic, an atheist at one point I thought he was JW or Mormon but I was wrong and so far he has not claim he is a Christian he deny Jesus Christ is God, he deny the Bible so I will leave it between the two of you to sort it out.

 

There is nothing subjective when individuals intentionally deny facts.
Faith has nothing to do with what is tangible, facts and reality one see what is visible, what is real.
Christian's faith were base on facts and reality not base on imagination, fictionally claims or being out of touch with reality and events.

 

How about atheist who hear voices that tell them that they are god?

 

It is why I believe in creating open interest in morals testing companies on a for-profit basis, since drug tests are useless for that.

 

BTW - near perfect english post. I like the fact you have peeled back the onion and have shown your true language.

I have made no claims to any thing you stated, every statement you make about claims I made are lies on your part. Feel free to prove this claim wrong.
The only claim I have made is I was born, baptized, confirmed, married as LCMS.

The other persona you identify with, claims jesus is not god. So the other persona may be JW.

 

It proves nothing of the sort. Stop being stupid. You are not obliged to use the Bible. You can use affirmation if your use. You can also use other religious books of other religions.

 

Everything he claims about peoples quotes are lies, and what he quotes are lies. I've long wondered how he gets away with deliberate lying as I thought this was against rules.

 

The word donor is associated with the persona.

 

The first one is wrong as I have pointed out and the others are not Historical facts.

As to History before the Kings. There is none. You will find no History book recording any History, proveable facts etc before the King era. Even the Jews are beginning to admit this.

That is laughable. Time and again you have been proved wrong and you can't accept it.

That's odd. My interpretations are due to what I have studied from Jewish teachers and books.. I've studied Christian and Jewish views of the Bible.

If you know anything about the Romans then it must have been from Spartacus. LOL

 

Awesome. So please now present me with empirical proof of the resurrection of Jesus. If you can provide any I will swear fealty to Christ. But we both know all you have is a story in the Bible which is proof to you but not backed by fact to me.

 

The problem is atheist relay and depend on drugs too much to solve their mental instability and mental health problems.