Part 26 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Aren't we supposed to be waiting for Mitt and Gotquestions answer to the problem. He's been very silent, and so has WarRen thankfully.

 

What is the POINT of dealing with

A. one guy who obviously has no problem just making up crap and acting like it's in the Bible?

B. his buddy who though he claims to "believe the Bible" and answer tough questions....let's "A" get away with it?

 

Erm...Well...I think.... None I suppose

I was only joking.

 

Religion requires socialism, not capitalism.

 

Well, I never ever got an answer from them and didn't expect any.

However, it's very telling that NO Christian has replied denouncing torture.........another reason to stay away from religious "morals".

 

If a person is religious why should he be against torture? After all, the person he's torturing is an evil sinner who's going to hell and to the lake of fire where he will be tortured forever. The puny torture he will receive on Earth is nothing in comparison. Besides, if he had been religious and upstanding as the person doing the torturing he wouldn't be on the receiving end. So it's his own fault for being a bad person who is getting tortured.

 

How do you know that there are 2 creators (God and Devil) and not 200 for example?
How do you know that there is heaven and hell and not 200 after life worlds?
What makes you think that god has got a particular intelligence or morality?!? majority of this world is poor or/and hungry..

There is more proof and answer that you need to provide before I lend myself to religion..but that's a start.

 

Well it is indeed very sad and true that you laugh at factual history.
So far you have failed and not post any factual historical records that would recognized and support your historical claims it has all been your personal history that you twisted out from actual history. Even fictional stories such as Alice in Wonderland it never claim to be based on historical facts.
You have deny all these historical facts

Quote Originally Posted by WanRen View Post
I agree forget about the film it is all for entertainment just like De Vinci Code stick to real history that Jesus Christ is for real, that Christianity are followers of Jesus Christ that the Tanakh is part of Christian history
1. The Romans were not ruling under the authority of the Christian God
2. Atheist, homosexuals prosper and have safe haven in Christian oriented lands
3. Atheist, homosexuals will not prosper in Muslim and communist countries
4. The Jewish religious leaders do not recognize the Bible or Jesus Christ they do recognize his historical contribution
5. Paul did not invent or created Christianity
6. Christianity recognize the Tanakh as part of its history
7. Today modern Western government submit to the authority of the Christian God that is why we swear on the Bible
8. Christianity was instrumental in progressing modern civilization, science, medicine and philosophy
9. The Christian church since ancient times was the only public institution to officially call for the protection of Jews
10. The Christian church has the most extensive historical records keeping

 

11. Christianity convinces some Christians that they can just make up stuff and act like it's in the Bible and still claim to be "Bible believers".

 

Oh go away. You haven't even bothered to read my past posts. I even agreed with No 10 with the proviso that they were historical Religious records, not secular history.

#682 explained to you how the Romans were ruling under God's authority. But then I doubt you've ever read Jeremiah or understood it if you have.

Both you and Mitt have proved a disappointment. I learnt more in studying on my own in 12 months that I could learn from either of you in 12 years.

You posts are of no interest to me in future. So don't waste your time addressing me or my posts to others.

 

Oh, gosh! I sure hope I didn't scare all those christian experts out of here!

Seems mentioning torture and THEIR religion at the same time and they get really quiet........................

 

The way you interpret the Bible is against God not for God that is why you will keep contradicting yourself.
Just like lay people are not in position to interpret laws and jurisprudence same with the Bible.
Now, listen and learn. The Gospel of Jeremiah is not about the Romans in fact there is no Gospel stating that God is on the side of the Romans to help the Romans persecute the Jews, that the Romans are or ruling under God's orders or authority that God will use the Romans to destroy the Temple of Solomon in fact Jesus was very clear the destruction of the Temple will be due to the Pharisees own fault. The Gospel of Jeremiah is about the Jews rebellion against God and for that God has abandon them to the Babylonians to defeat, subjugate and destroy them. The Babylonians do not worship God they worship their own gods. Jeremiah message was very clear to the Jewish tribes that God is not on their side.

Paul's Gospel is addressing both the people and the Romans for the people it is to respect rulers who rule under the authority of the Christian God a coded or indirect message to the Christian people not to submit to the Romans demand to worship Caesar they can pay taxes give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. And the message to the Romans was that they what ever authority they have it is from God not from Caesar or from any of their pagan gods and goddesses.

God allows many things to happen by letting man to decide and chart their own destiny according to their free will. The Babylonians just like the Romans acted according to their free will and the reason why the Jewish nation fell was because of their own actions not God's.

 

I would love to tell you to go away but I can't because truth matters and I will share truth with you no matter what. You deny everything historical including Biblical history that today's secular government will use as a blue print for their modern history.

1. The Romans were not ruling under the authority of the Christian God how can you deny that?
2. Atheist, homosexuals prosper and have safe haven in Christian oriented lands how can you deny that?
3. Atheist, homosexuals will not prosper in Muslim and communist countries how can you deny that?
4. The Jewish religious leaders do not recognize the Bible or Jesus Christ they do recognize his historical contribution how can you deny that?
5. Paul did not invent or created Christianity how can you deny that?
6. Christianity recognize the Tanakh as part of its history how can you deny that?
7. Today modern Western government submit to the authority of the Christian God that is why we swear on the Bible how can you deny that?
8. Christianity was instrumental in progressing modern civilization, science, medicine and philosophy how can you deny that?
9. The Christian church since ancient times was the only public institution to officially call for the protection of Jews how can you deny that?
10. The Christian church has the most extensive historical records keeping how can you deny that?

You again misinterpreted Jeremiah gospel to suite your personal tale not according to the Biblical and secular history. Jeremiah was not talking about the Romans it was about the Babylonians and why God has abandon the Jewish tribes to be defeated by the Babylonians you keep ignoring the fact that the Babylonians do not worship God they worship their own gods.

Unfortunately self grading is your problem.

Your post is always an interest and concern to me to all Christians and historians because it is all wrong and twisted and we have the responsibility as good Christians and historians to correct that.

 

Christianity convince the atheistic community that God exist and that truth matters that there is no such thing as unbelievers.

 

Strange no atheist have accepted the historical fact that the Christian church was the only institution to call for the protection of Jews.
Christians have been in the forefront against torture and slavery again this is historical fact
There exist no historical records of any atheist leaders renouncing torture or slavery in fact they are the worst tyrants in history again this is historical fact.

 

Didn't the Southern Baptists get started because they wanted to keep slavery going in the South? Weren't they some kind of Christians?

 

You have to 'admire' WarRen comedy. His ability to adapt anything to his way of thinking is masterly. His historical facts come straight from WarRens Own 'History of the World', which is, unfortunately, nothing like the proven history of the world. In fact the only place you can actually read it is on here.
His last 2 posts to me actually contain errors which, if he had read the Bible, he should not have made.





I've finished with WarRens lies and deceit. His credibility is non-existent as far as I am concerned. Judging by the way this post is going, others feel the same.

Oh. And I love this

WarRen quote

Then he proceeds to give me his interpretation of Jeremiah.

 

Yes. for centuries the church condoned the slavery of black people because of the Noah story of God cursing Noah's grandson (not the son who committed the offense).

 

Report from 1996

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/121.html

 

That's some link.. One forgets that these kinds of "religious" people exist.

 

Speaking only for myself,, I find your comments about slavery and torture to be moot issues, when the same thing is still going on today within and by secular governments.

 

Have you read about the 'Gabriel Revelation' stone? Fair bit on the internet. One reference given.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/jerusalem-unveils-mysterious-hebrew-stone

 

Oh my... Would you love to know what it means? Thanks.

 

Truth doesn't matter to you, WR.....not a single bit. Just "what you believe" and if you have to make up lies to support that....you will....and have.

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Except moral people today speak out against slavery......God in the Bible never did.

 

So Christians are no better than anyone else. Thank you for admitting that. I knew it all along.


I have no idea why you mentioned slavery.