Part 28 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

No, see, it doesn't. You have just convinced yourself that you possess some special knowledge from the imaginary god of the bible and then project that false persona on those who dare have a point of view that differs from yours.

You are not interested in debate and I know this because any time I have engaged you in actual debate you end up posting a bunch of bible verses you think support your interpretation of what the bible says about the subject at hand.

You have never once proved any comment you have made you simply state emphatically that you and you alone understand what the bible says and then foist those opinions on us as if they are facts... and they are not.

This is not debate... this is you pretending to be a bible apologist with a special insight to a very poorly written book of fairy tales!

The book is mythology and no matter how many verses from it you post you haven't the power to change that!

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I think you have confused me with you as this post applies to you and not me.

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Zealots tell others that only they have the true meaning to a book of mythology.

HMMMM, now lets all take a moment here and consider who it is that behaves this way?

 

I see the Bible writers as men who had a direct communication with their own Unconscious mind, wherein they learned things and we told things which were understood long ago, but not open to men who are not allowed inside that psychic entity.
The Collective Unconscious mind is the sum of all the Unconscious minds working together, a great shepherd over us all, the Christ which KNOWS the Truth by actual experiences mankind has had over millions of years.

This living image of Reality is the Truth, itself, which has learned and understood human behavior through actual life experiences.
It spoke to different prophets and writers over the Ages in ways which they understood was spiritual in that it did not come to their own consciousness, but was sourced as if from outside themselves.
The consistency of the scriptures demonstrates that this one "voice" dictated to many people in different Ages the things we now read and see as consistent and connected.

 

Correction, this is what Christ said, or taught. Thanks for posting those words, as its been 50 years since I last read them.

That is the REAL Christ, and what he represented. Not this other muddle that some people attempt to subscribe to him, even equating him to hitler. LOL

 

Sorry, I thought it was you who wanted a meaningless existence. My existence has great meaning, but not in the general religious manner.

 

The story of Tamar is interesting because she was a fully grown woman whose husband had died. She then became the property of her father-in-law, the hypocrite Judah. Tamar was expected to cool her heels until Judah's toddler son got old enough, maybe eight or nine, to marry Tamar.

Judah, being a horny old goat, sees Tamar all decked out in a sack from head to toe http://media.photobucket.com/user/a...]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=8 and decides to poke a pig in a blanket sight unseen. Naturally Tamar gets knocked up and the hypocrite Judah is eager to gut and roast her because she didn't wait years for a baby to grow up, When he found out that he was the sinner he crawled back into his hole with his tail between his legs.

The story is a contrast to the Lot and his skanky daughters. When Lot found out that he had knocked up both of his daughters it didn't bother him one bit. He probably just kept doing it since no other man would have married either one of them.

 

My advice would be to quit assuming and ask the next time.

And I'll just say that if you think it's all about you then you don't have as much meaning as you may suppose. I'm of the mind that all peoples life has great meaning... perhaps not to you but to them!

 

homosexual people are the victims of extremism. how many Christians defend them?

 

and you think that makes it better?

'oh, the snake didn't speak of its own accord, a demon made it talk'

 

and how, precisely, does any of that waffle justify all the burning and stoning?

you're effectively sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "la la la .... I can't hear you", whenever someone confronts you with the awfulness of your god.

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the poster referred to the wrongs committed by your god, or on behalf of your god. you know this, so we'll assume your fingers are in your ears again.

 

they have not succeeded (before now) because they were killed or shunned. don't pretend you don't know your dogma only survived 1500 years because it was forced upon us. if people had had a choice there's no way it would have survived. and now that there IS a choice, look how fast it's dying in the west! the developing countries who are still in the thrall of it have yet to reach the point where fear of authority is diminished enough to ask questions, but they will. just as they catch up with the west in all other areas, sooner or later.

 

Those images are based on fictional claims drawn by artist total lack scientific and factual truth. That is why Christians understand and accept that we humans are not apes and apes are not humans. There is no way to trace what human race evolved from which ape type but most all apes for thousands of years have remain the same.


Humans


Apes
Factual reality is the strongest evidence stronger than sketches or drawings.

 

Your interpretation is mainly your personal one. Prostitution and Satan worshiping was wrong back then it is still wrong today. Are you saying it was right back then and wrong today?

 

ah yes, factual reality in your lexicon being "people look different to monkeys".

meantime, I'm sure you're aware that your own culture (as do many others, mostly in developing parts of the world, but also in the less educated, lower working classes of some western countries) have a deep-seated fear of being likened to animals. it's about the worst possible insult imaginable, to call someone a beast of any description. if you think this doesn't play into the dislike of the concept of evolution, you're possibly too dim to engage with on the topic.

 

the post was about GOD DOING WRONG back then. many Christians defend it by saying "that was then".

meanwhile, why do you lie via obfuscation and disingenuousness? are you such a lightweight that you don't even recognise that that's what you are doing?

 

Your point of view is based on your own false sense of reality that is why we are here to correct that false claims of yours.

I am interested in sharing the truth that is why I ma very successful in debunking your false claims and wrong interpretation of the Bible. The Bible is very clear it is about the goodness of God.

Biblical history are facts that is why you can not back your false claims with facts only with your personal anger and hatred against God.

Do you have any more questions about the Bible and Christianity?

I can not change the Bible because it is full of truth I can defend it against those who wants to change it with their false claims and interpretation.

Zealots, atheist and anti God like to misinterpret the Bible, Christians do not.

Check the mirror out.

 

Bible writers were holy gifted men just like great scientist are gifted their ability to see things we can't.
How in the world could Thomas Edison be able to invent light bulb, motion capture film, or Graham Bell invention of the telephone capturing human voice in a piece of equipment and able to travel it for miles to the other end. Just like these few great scientist Bible writers were spiritually gifted they see God no other man does like scientist see science no other men can.

 

pride, too? wow, you really walk the razors edge in regards to your own salvation, Wren.

of course the bible is 'very clear' about the 'goodness of god', it has something to sell! my vacuum cleaner is marketed as the best vacuum cleaner money can buy, but it ain't. the very last person/people to be trusted in regards to appraisal of worth are those with a vested interest. are you really so incredibly childlike that you actually believe advertisers when they make such claims?

the only way you can know if your god is actually good is to compare him to an average human being. if he's not spectacularly better in every imaginable way, you've been sold a dud. and when I say better, I mean BETTER. ie, no anger, no jealousy, no wrath, no punishing infinitely for finite 'sins', no judgement, no unseemly obsession with sex, no xenophobia, no homophobia, no blood sacrificing, no wars of attrition, no demonising, no demands for worship, etc etc. all of these are human failings, so any god worth loving must necessarily rise above.

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how do you know they were?

and if some 'spiritually gifted' man or men announced tomorrow that they were going to channel a new message from Yahweh, would you believe them?

 

Even if you were right,...

You attack the science people who could see that Evolution could fit into the scripture quite well for them.
You stop them from believing scripture dead on.
You demand they accept your "science" as correct.
You demand it, instead of telling them this GENEALOGY FITS THEIR WAY OF SEEING THINGS TOO.

You are an impediment to believers and have no need to explain why you believe Genesis, but every reason to tell others to believe it.

 

Easy,...
Rev Martin Luther King stood up for The Truth and was willing to die in its name.
That marks a prophet and believer.

 

Your point of view is based on your own false sense of reality. You are here to project some sort of authority onto yourself and are failing miserably.

You are interested in selling your version of the truth and aren't doing a very good job. You have not debunked anything you have cut and pasted a bunch of bible verses and attached a very warped interpretation to them.

If the bible were "very clear" we wouldn't need amateur apologists such as yourself to interpret it for us!

The bible is so full of bad history it's a little silly for anyone to claim it represents actual history of any kind.

You can only assume I hate and am angry at your god. It's impossible to be angry or hate a mythological character.

Yeah ... why can't this god of yours write a book that says what it means and means what it says?

Because I must be honest if this is the best it can do and it expects me to take someone like you seriously as some sort of authority on the subject then it is not really serious about saving reasonable, logical thinking people!

The bible has been changed time after time throughout it's history.

You have defended nothing... in fact you've been enormously successful in convincing me that this silly book warps peoples minds!

Zealots will insist that only they know what this silly book means and erroneously contend that they have the true meaning even when the interpretation they spew forth contradicts the majority of others who make the same claim!

 

I can't help but notice that very few of these "Tough Questions about Christianity"
have nothing to do with Christianity. Most involve the Old Testament.

I'm not complaining. It's just an observation.

 

if some random guy made a public announcement, tomorrow, that he'd received a completely new update from Yahweh, and that the bible must be changed to reflect this NEW new testament, would you believe him?

 

I think it may be time for them to dispose of it!

It doesn't do anything except reveal the level of futile grasping one must embark upon to retain and defend it as the word of an all knowing all loving god.

 

but it contains the jesus prophecy ... whoops-a-daisy!

 

Hind sight has always been 20/20.

The claim of this "prophecy" is akin to a marksman repeatedly shooting at the side of a barn... then drawing a bulls eye around the tightest cluster!