Part 6 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Well....it would seem that the Noah Story might have had it's roots in this event.

AboveAlpha

 

might. idle speculation. what of the various other "flood" myths from other cultures around the world, that the xtians trot out as proof that their flood was real?

 

Quote Posted by dairyair on pg. 40 #398 of Part 3

I believe there are many many musims and jews who love God, but you say they can't go to heaven. Seems as though there's a conflict.
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It is not me saying they can't go to heaven but it is God saying they can't go to heaven. I'm just telling it like it is written in the Holy Bible. The muslims and the jews do not believe in the Son of God, our Lord Savior Jesus Christ.

Jesus said, "For God loved the world so much that He gave His one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. God sent His Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through Him.

There is no judgment against anyone who believes in Him. But anyone who does not believe in Him has already been judged for not believing in God's one and only Son. And the judgment is based on this fact: God's light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more that the light, for their actions were evil.

All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants." John 3:16-21 NLT

 

And how in all creation is that a proportional punishment? Not believing in the EXACT dogma results in not the death, but the ETERNAL torture of the "criminal"? I mean, holy (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

The fairy tale makes more sense once you drop the supernatural eternity part. Concentrate upon the human nature part, regardless of the specific religious fairy tale under discussion.

If people share common values and mirror behaviors they will generally live in peace and harmony. When people push different values and behaviors they generally experience conflict, sometimes murder and mayhem. That's true in all areas of human activity. When King Asa had the problem he simply killed all of the dissenters and then he had peace and harmony with those that agreed with him.

If a person has a spouse who has different values then they will be in conflict as long as they stay married. It will seem like some sort of eternal punishment.

People who commit serious crimes and end up in prison for the remainder of their lives are suffering eternal punishment for all intents and purposes. Even if they repent and live exemplary lives in prison they are still suffering "eternal punishment" because they are still in prison till their deaths.

I'm sure that we all know or have heard of someone who has done something to be given a sentence of "eternal punishment" here in this life. The purpose of the "holy books" is to show people how they can avoid such a fate. They may have to believe in all kinds of nonsense along the way but if they generally follow the good examples they will avoid most of the pitfalls.

 

Nope, the very same God you quote tells them something different.

 

Pope Francis disagrees with this.
Do you think he'll go to Heaven anyway?

 

It doesn't matter what I think, for I am not the Supreme Judge. Pope Francis will have to explain to God someday why he disagreed with what was written in Scripture: John 3:16-21 if indeed the Pope truly disagrees.

 

Pope francis is catholic... They are the one who compiled/edited your bible. They know more about it then an anonymous personae on a political forum pretending to have the whole truth on christianity...

Btw, pride is one of the 7 deadly sins... Keep that in mind when you post those pompous answer...

 

Maybe the Noah story is actually a story about the Assyrian military forces sweeping through the region conquering everyone? As soon as the flood was over the land was filled with people and cities. That seems a stretch if the Earth was actually covered with water. But it does fit if it was a military conquest written as a metaphor for a natural disaster. One thing we do know is that the Assyrians ruled that area.

 

I agree with the first part of that statement.

 

the flooding of the Black Sea shoreline was a massive event that was written about by many cultures. It happened in the same area Noah was said to be in and I believe it is most likely the root of that story.

AboveAlpha

 

But the only detail that matches the noah bit is that there was some water.

A land snail could have easily outpaced the rising waters.

 

When Christians find out that Yeshua doesn't look like Barry Gibb, will they drop their faith in him?

 

Let me start by first saying there are a lot of bishops dismayed so far with Pope Francis.

To continue on you are wrong, the Catholics did not compile/nor did they edited my bible which is the New Living Translation bible.

Oh and btw, fyi technically speaking pride is not one of the seven deadly sins along with the six others which are envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed, and sloth. Although they all are undeniably sins, they are never given the description of "the seven deadly sins" in the Bible. These sins were according to Pope Gregory the Great in the 6th century. So they are not of biblical origin.

However though Proverbs 6:16-19 in the Holy Bible declares, “There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: 1) haughty eyes, 2) a lying tongue, 3) hands that shed innocent blood, 4) a heart that devises wicked schemes, 5) feet that are quick to rush into evil, 6) a false witness who pours out lies, and 7) a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.”

But this list is not what most people understand as the seven deadly sins. They understand them to be what Pope Gregory understood them to be which I mentioned above but again they are never given the description of "the seven deadly sins" in the Bible and so they are not of biblical origin.

The seven deadly sins are a list originally used in early Christian teachings to educate and instruct followers concerning fallen man's tendency to sin.

There is a misconception concerning the list of seven deadly sins in that they are sins that God will not forgive. That is a falsehood for the Bible makes it perfectly clear that the only sin God will not forgive is that of continued disbelief, because it rejects the only means to obtain forgiveness—through Jesus Christ and His substitutionary death on the cross.

Lastly, we have all sinned and as a sinner I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord Savior, and so with you telling me, "Btw, pride is one of the 7 deadly sins... Keep that in mind when you post those pompous answer... " has no effect on me and I will continue to post my answers on my thread that I started concerning Christianity in the best way I know how and as truthful as I can be using the Holy Bible as my guide. And please keep coming to my thread, here you can learn many things that you haven't known before.

 

It's a "stretch" to believe Dinosaurs walked the planet, but they did.

 

Why not the 2nd part?

 

I hadn't heard that the water actually rose slowly, but here's a study indicating that it may not have risen quite as much as previously thought:

[h=1]"Noah's Flood" Not Rooted in Reality, After All?[/h]

 

Figure a river flowing into a huge basin. How fast could the water level rise? And the bigger the lake gets, the more slowly the shoreline could
move.

I've seen it estimated a foot a day, for how fast the shoreline moved, allowing for that some areas of shore would be steep, others more levl and the water would move over those faster.

Another thing, for the water to get into the basin, it relied on the earths entire ocean to rise. Lets say it went up an inch in a year, pretty fast.
So a one inch deep river flows into the black sea.

Not much call for an ark

 

People discount the Holy Bible's account of Noah because the Nations were not present in the Earth until after the Flood. Before that, it was all Black people on the planet.

 

I don't know.
The national Geographic article mentioned an "onrush of water" from the Mediterranean" and a "rapidly rising sea." That doesn't sound so slow.

It is possible that someone could have built a boat and saved some farm animals from the waters.

It is also possible that the story is a rewrite of the Epic of Gilgamesh.

It is not possible that it was really a worldwide flood.

 

Noah's Ark rested on the top of Mount Arat in Turkey. it is patrolled by the Turkish governement to this very day and if you dare try to go up there you WILL be shot deader than a hammer...

Why is that? Because Noah's Ark is real. that's why. and the flood did happen.

And given the utter power of storms in the world today, from hurricanes to torrential rainstorms, I don't doubt it happend. just look at Japan and all the mudslides due to ground water displacing the land.

 

The Turkish government actually thinks it is protecting Noah's Ark from me? and from Taikoo? and tourists no doubt?

Really?

And here I though our government carried out some ridiculous programs.

 

Quote Posted by Giftedone on pg. 40 #400 of Part 3

If God wanted us to believe in his existence that badly then why not just show up !
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God has already revealed Himself to mankind some 2,000 yrs. ago to save mankind from the destructive power of sin. Does our Lord Savior Jesus Christ ring a bell?...hello!

And our Lord Savior Jesus Christ shall return oneday...we don't know when but He promised us He shall return!

 

So god wiped out the global black neighborhood?
Man, you guys can't catch a break!
LOL!