Part 7 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

Theory = a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

If those links does not prove that scientist are using mathematical theories and calculation to determine the existence or none existence of God then I guess you can ask yourself why do they keep on bringing God into their equation.

You mean you do not believe that the universe is well design all moving in proportional orbit without colliding with it's other, the presence of elements that provide heat and life to our planet earth? Or the human body so well design that it is self sustaining? Now you can compare this great design with what our engineers and scientist have created such devices and machineries that is so automated that it can stay in space monitor our planet, store tones of informations etc. and all these smart man made creation that including converting deserts into habitable spaces demonstrate that all of these can not come about on it's own with out a creator in this case man is the creator and God created man.

Universe, you and all the great achievements that our engineers and scientist have accomplish with their creative mind that is why more and more manufacturing require less human labour and soon everything will become automated and humans can probably just seat back and be lazy.

Here is something to relax you:
[video=youtube;Qdl91i0tbZc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdl91i0tbZc[/video]

God, it all leads back to God the Alpha and Omega, no beginning no end. Physicist can not proof that things started on its' own the more they search the more it points to a designer.

The mechanical watch is a clear example of a self automated device created by man. No assertions just links that point to the use of mathematical calculation to either prove or disprove a God.

And I have provided proves that God exist by presenting scientific theories formulated by recognize scientist on the other hand you refute base on your own personal conviction ignoring all the facts and or theories.

 

What we dont believe is that you know a darn thing about such god as there may be.

 

Ever since the Pharisees rejected Jesus Christ starting from the 1st century AD they are no longer worshipping the God of Abraham. Many times in the Old Testament God had to punish the Jews for rejecting Him and pretend to worship Him. Again, they rejected Him and chose to stick to worship and pretend it is the God of Abraham.

 

How did God punish the Pharisees?

 

I believe the Bible is sacred didactic literature...

You don't know a thing about me.. I think you are blinded by literalism.. and that was NEVER the intention of the scriptures.

 

Sorry, what you're describing is a hypothesis. Do you really consider the Theory of General Relativity to be "conjectural"?

Who? You posted links from scientists that lived hundreds of years ago, and even Newton's theory of gravitation didn't posit a God. So, what exactly are you talking about? Who brought God into the equation?

Uh....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_event

The surface of any planet or planetary body without an atmosphere would like a word with you. Not to mention that Earth itself has been hit by many different things.

Which is obviously an incredibly rare occurrence in the Universe since the rest of our solar system, as far as we know, is devoid of any kind of life.

Once again, begging the question. You're assuming that it was designed because it is self-sustaining? Fire is also self-sustaining, does that make it designed?

And once again, this analogy doesn't hold when you're claiming that the entire Universe is designed, as I have already explained to you the stark difference between creating something from existing materials and creating something from nothing.

So, are you just going to pretend that you didn't post something from Hawking which says the exact opposite?

And do you know why a watch is "clearly" an example of something designed? Because we know how watches are designed, we can literally talk face to face with a watch designer, and we can see him create the watch in front of our eyes.

Once again, you literally just posted a link by Hawking saying the exact opposite. Apparently you have amnesia. Also, your English is atrocious.

 

Here are two simple questions for you, WanRen. How do you define design, and how do you conclude that something is designed, i.e. what is evidence of design?

 

Question.....Do YOU personally believe in a LITERAL SENSE everything that is written in Genesis?

And if you do....WHY?

Thank's.

AboveAlpha

 

The Pharisees punish themselves by rejecting Christ.

 

Explicit or Implicit?

You can let the implicit passages clarify the explicit.

1 Cor. 10:11
“Now these things happened to them as an example, but they were written down for our instruction, on whom the end of the ages has come”

One thing is explicit, or exact.

Jesus is the Son of God.
Jesus was crucified, buried and rose from the dead to establish a new covenant with God, one wherein humanity is forgiven of their sins and receives God's grace...
with one caveat.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

To receive eternal life you must believe Jesus is your Savior.

Now the jokes will start...
"sounds like a zombie story"
"Jesus never existed"
"The Bible was edited to turn an ordinary man into a divine being"

Yes, I've heard most of the "jokes."

We get it.

You don't believe.

Jesus Appears to Thomas

John 20: 25
. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

You will not believe until you can put your fingers where the nails were and put your hands into the risen Christ's side.

Jesus replies to Thomas

John 29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

I believe that summarizes things....
yet the discussion will continue...

Ad nauseum...which leads one to the basic conclusion.
these debates tend to be circular.

Many believe without literal proof, without literally witnessing Christ's resurrection...
and many require literal proof.

How can you believe in something you've never actually seen?
There are problems with the Big Bang theory, we just don't have many better ideas, so we've stuck with it as a plausible explanation for the beginning of the universe. For one, we have no idea what would trigger an ultradense pinpoint of matter to explode outwards. For another, the universe is almost entirely of a uniform temperature, and it's unlikely that, at what we think is a fairly early point in time after the Big Bang, the temperature would have evened out so thoroughly.

Yet I bet you've placed "faith" in this Big Bang theory, you've got it all figured out...
The resurrected Christ is nothing but copies of various myths scattered throughout human history. The phoenix rising from the ashes, etc, etc.

Christ is nothing more than a re-edited version of many myths cultures have convinced themselves to believe more out of ignorance than reason...
We as 21st Century Earth inhabitants, are beyond ignorance, we...are creatures of PURE REASON....

uh huh...

if you say so.




Good evening.

 

MAN!!!!

After reading the last two posts by War and Herk which I believe are directed at Taiko....I think I am going to apply for Japanese Citizenship because I can believe there are any American's that are this ill informed of Scientific Facts.

SAD!

AboveAlpha

 

Since the crazy old coot Abraham is one of the most despicable people in the Bible why would any rational person worship any deity that he believed in?

 

I thought you support theories?

It is those scientist that lived hundred of years ago that their findings are being use now to further expand science. Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Einstein etc.

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I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.


“Gravity explains the motions of the planets, but it cannot explain who sets the planets in motion.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe
B]Physicist Paul Davies [/B]has asserted that "There is now broad agreement among physicists and cosmologists that the Universe is in several respects ‘fine-tuned' for life". However, he continues, "the conclusion is not so much that the Universe is fine-tuned for life; rather it is fine-tuned for the building blocks and environments that life requires."

Here is book that you may want to try reading.

http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Undertaker-Has-Science-Buried/dp/0745953719

The only known planet that supports life so far is only earth and we are witnessing how men have expanded to the point that we are now have the capability of reaching space and the ability to create.

Fire is self sustaining? Fire can die out that is a fact the only fire that is self sustaining is the sun.

Creating something from existing materials and designing it to become self sustaining that is how it develop. God creative power started with the God-particle.

Are you pretending that I am pretending? Because I am not pretending I clearly explain what Hawking claim.

And you can talk directly with God through prayers, in fact God came and talk face to face with the people already.

No I did not say anything opposite what Hawking claim with his theory about time and God it is you who have been twisting it. My English maybe atrocious, thank you it is not atrocious enough not to understand that God exist, that scientist have not been able to prove God does not exist and individual people such as you can not disprove God's existence.

Are you saying that you do not believe that the universe is well design? That against scientific theories the universe is not a define design?

 

You wont have any luck with either citizenship or the language in Japan of course, but there are other possibilities.

I occasionally share some of the more deranged posts, such as above, with friends back in China.

Quit capitalizing things that are not proper nouns and making so many other mistakes, or I will include your posts as examples of how American Professors write!

 

Maybe you will begin to understand how the literalists drive people away from faith... There is NO commandment to park your brain at the door to be a Christian.

There was no Flood, no Exodus and no parting of the Red Sea. .. People didn't live hundreds of years.. No one lived inside a fish for three days.

So in studying scripture, you look for the meaning of the narrative....

 

Been to both Japan and China many times.

Even been called a 鬼佬 in South Eastern China.

I cap because it is a form of fun for me as a method of placing certain emphasis upon certain words and aspects in my posts.

I know it drives some people nuts but I have fun with it none the less.

AboveAlpha....p.s...Japan has great food and so does China but there is no place like the U.S.

AboveAlpha

 

I know the thing about Japan was a joke. Japan is a difficult place to like and impossible to be a part of it if you are not from there.

Do avoid writing plural as possessive, though, and making that kind of mistake. It does detract from the Professor Image. So does inappropriate use of capital letters.

I spend some time in Sendai, so I was sad to see what happened there. The house I stayed in is now gone, it was on flat ground only a few kilometers from the sea.

Where have you been in SE China?

 

In Japan they have a strong sense of moral-ethical and religious discipline.

 

That was a long winded way of saying, YES, both are the God of Abraham.
I don't care you worship a different way, just wanted to be clear christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the God of Abraham in your world. I doubt Abraham had 2 Gods.

 

That is a truly ignorant statement. Are you insane?