Paul, a false prophet?

I just love it when you state 'absolutes' such as "Unfortunately Paul did not ever meet Jesus." That declaration becomes an absolute by virtue of the fact that you did not place any restrictions on the method of 'meeting'. Paul (Saul) met Jesus on the road to Damascus and Jesus identified himself. Jesus talked to Jesus and Jesus talked to Paul... (in the spirit and audibly). Paul also had witnesses who also heard the voice of Jesus.

And to think that you are attempting to convince people that you KNOW the Bible and the messages that were imparted.

Unfortunately for your warped logic.... some of what Jesus said was recorded by such people as Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Paul..

"reputable" according to whose standards? The standards established by man or the standards established by God?

OH! You have attended those Pentacostal and Fundamentalist seminaries? That would be the only way that you would KNOW what is actually taught in those seminaries. Do you KNOW factually what is taught in those Pentacostal and Fundamentalist seminaries?

 

Read that passage of Jesus in Context.

You are twisting the words of Jesus to fit into the words of Paul.

 

Paul had a vision. Lots of folks do. There is quite a difference between this and hanging out with Jesus like the deciples did.

Paul did not have a relationship with Christ, such that he knew Christ well like the deciples.

What is warped is that I talk about Paul not putting much about the life of Jesus in his writings ... and you bring up Mark Matt ... and so on.

There are many ways of knowing what is taught in the fake seminaries.

 

Have you ever had a vision of Jesus? Yes or No.

Paul developed a relationship with Jesus. Saul previously had a love-hate relationship with Jesus... Jesus loved Saul and Saul hated Jesus and those that followed after Jesus.

Are you Paul? No? Then what actually do you KNOW about what the Holy Spirit instructed Paul to write about?

What are "fake seminaries"... I have never heard of those. Have you ever attended one of those "fake seminaries"? Have you ever read any documentation that is used as educational material by those "fake seminaries"? Where are those "fake seminaries" located? Are those "fake seminaries" incorporated? Can I look in the phone book under "fake seminaries" and find the location, phone number, city, state, zip code of any of them? Why do you refer to them as 'fake seminaries'?

 

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Yes

And your source for this is ?

Fake seminaries are ones that put out Fake Ministers. Those that make up their own beliefs that have nothing to do with the Bible.

The ones where the students do not learn Greek, Hebrew, and study the old text nor learn about the history of the Bible.

Some courses can be completed online .. Some can become ordained ministers in less than 2 years. Here is one that takes only 72 hours !!

http://www.themonastery.org/?destination=ordination

Would you go to a brain surgeon that had only 2 years of School .. or a Psychologist ?

 

Prove it.

What "this"?

Name a few of them.

Name "The ones".

And that 72 hour thing proves what?

Considering that the 'brain surgeon' is practicing an off-shoot of Numerology and the psychologist is practicing a branch of the occult (mind reading): You should be accepted by either one.

 

Was a dream .. just like Paul's so there is no proof just like there is no proof for Pauls vision.

Missouri Synod would be a legit Seminary .. I gave you a link to an illigitimate one.

That there are illigitimate Seminaries .. .. you know .. The point of the discussion !

ROFL - You have obviously know very little about Modern Psychology.

Not sure where Brain Surgery comes from but I doubt it has anthing to do with numerology.

Is this what the Holy Spirit told you ?

 

Then in essence you made a false claim when you stated in the affirmative that you had a vision. So you are now contending that Saul was sleep walking?

I'm sorry, I must have missed that particular posting. Would you be so kind as to re-submit that link? Are you suggesting that any seminary that is not Lutheran is an illegitimate one?

No, I don't know the point of the discussion. Legitimate and illegitimate seminaries was your topic, so please expound on that subject so that the rest of us can get on the same page with you.

Diversionary tactic.. means nothing.

Not sure why you would make a comparison such as this "Would you go to a brain surgeon that had only 2 years of School .. or a Psychologist ?"

Is what "what the Holy Spirit told " me? What "this" are you talking about?

 

Nonsense .. as usual.

Post 55. There are others .. you asked for an example and I gave one.

Nope .. and a Minister with only 2 years is on the same level.

That Brain surgery comes from numerology and Psychology from Palm reading.

 

Yep,,, post 55 shows where you told the lie.

Then I ask you to "prove it" and your response was:

Just that fast. LIAR.

 

What are you blubbering about now .. You asked for proof of a vision, I told you there was none.

How is that lying ?

Your desperation is showing.

 

That is another lie. My last post shows clearly where, when you were asked if you had ever had a vision, you emphatically said "yes". End of story. YOU ARE A LIAR.

 

And your proof is .....

 

Your own statements... I don't have time for your little twist the record game tonight... you should know what the proof is... you wrote it in the form of a couple of lies now. Have a nice evening.

 

If you know the definition then you should know that you have no proof.

How can you prove someone did or did not have a vision ?

Keep diggin ?!

 

I cannot prove whether you did or did not have a vision. But I can prove what you said, and what you said shows clearly that you told a lie. Back to the ignore list LIAR.

 

What exactly did he say? I'm confused.

 

Bizzare to be honest.

How tough is it to prove a lie that I supposedly made a few posts ago.

 

Follow the links back to post #55 where he admitted that he had seen a "vision", then later changes his story when confronted on the issue of the vision.

 

Resorting to name calling now. HELLO MODERATORS: We have another one violating the TOS.

 

Actually I vaguely referenced to people who make the sorts of claims that you do. I never actually called you personally anything....So if you report me I'll do the same for you fileing a false report.

 

I would think that calling someone a Liar without cause is name calling is it not ?

 

It is trolling I would think, also....since he posted it with no proof that you lied and did not add to the discussion.

 

The cause is justified and is a matter of thread record. If someone (moderator) would like to review the record they can and they will see the record speaks for itself.

 

"Trolling" is also a matter of Moderator discretion and opinion. So if you want to report me for trolling, by all means do so, as that would also bring to their attention, the misconduct of others on this thread.