PBS Official: Repeal The Natural Born Citizen Clause To Avoid Birther Controversy

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  1. JP5

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    This liberal is so out-of-touch he doesn't even kinow it doesn't say "native," it says "natural." You're right---those are two different things. So, why the spin from this liberal and from Obama himself by changing the word? This continues to be an on-going issue because Obama and his liberal supporters make it so.
     
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    Hahaha.....oh yes, why does it have to be about hate lol. And then you go spewing your Obama hatred.

    Hey you are welcome to whatever deluded opinions you have.

    Doesnt' change a word of what I said before- Conservatives have proposed such an amendment many times before, but now that a liberal proposes it Conservatives howl its a liberal plot. Hypocracy or just lack of education?
     
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    Obama is arrogent and thinks he is above the frey. He thinks he is an elite. He is a loser, and will never be anything else.
     
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    I do not hate Obama. I recognize and extol his lack of competence and relate his hatred of this great country and his disdain for our constitution. I suggest you get a clue, when used properly, it can be quite enlightening.
     
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    Please, help me to understand that. How are you imagining that "his citizenship changed as he grew" in any way that would "game the system?"

    I ask because according to the explicit wording of US law and repeated US Supreme Court decisions, that is not even possible. There is nothing his mother could have done that would have altered the citizenship status with which he was born. Not her marriage to a foreigner. Not her own expatriation or (theoretical) revocation of citizenship. Not any attempt by her to revoke his citizenship. Not obtaining dual citizenship. Not traveling with a foreign passport. Not his (theoretical) adoption by his Indonesian step father. Not even six year old Barack Obama marching voluntarily into the US Embassy in Jakarta, calling LBJ a poophead and demanding his US citizenship be taken away.

    So what exactly is the legal theory behind her doing anything that could strip him of his status as a natural born US citizen? Because I gotta tell you... it is simply not possible.

    This is another example of the very strange memes that populate most nut-job conspiracy theories. Not only does it have nothing to do with Presidential eligibility, as an "objection" it doesn't even make sense.

    It demonstrates one of the key characteristics of nut-job conspiracy theorists:

    What conceivable nefarious purpose would be served by having a birth certificate from Connecticut that wouldn't be served just as well with one from Hawaii? He has clearly used this same SSN since the 1970s and always with his own name which would make him the worst identity thief in the history of the known universe. He used it to register for the draft. He uses it every year to file his income taxes (which as a millionaire would never escape the routine IRS checks of SSNs that are performed on attractive audit targets).

    The Birther claim that it must be stolen is just dumb. Why would somebody go through the trouble of stealing an SSN when they could just apply for one?

    This demonstrates another of the key characteristic of nut-job conspiracy theorists:

    The world is filled with anomalies and coincidences that are simply the white noise of ordinary life. We all have them. They neither require convoluted explanations nor imply evil intent.

    They just are.
     
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    This is fascinating.

    The man is President of the United States. He is the single most powerful person on the planet.

    You don't find that "elite?" Not maybe just a little bit?

    :roll:
     
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    He would have had to formally renounce his US citizenship .. His mother's marriage and living in Indonesia for three years in no way compromised his citizenship.

    Further, He had a US passport by the time he was six years old.. He had to prove his birthplace at that time.

    Depends on when you apply for your SS#.. Babies get them now.. I didn't get mine until I was 20 ....

    There is NO such thing as a "citizen changling".
     
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    He is a leftist loser and he is the laughing stock of world leaders. He has no principles, values, or morals.
     
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    Obama is a clueless loser, and being a changling would be an improvement.

    Didn't hisloserness say he was a citizen of the world?
     
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    I don't think you know how to start a sentence without using "leftist loser".

    President Obama is an American success story, and clearly you can't stand that. He has a successful marriage with two children. He doesn't have a history of moral scandals like so many Republican and Democratic Presidential candidates. He hasn't switched wives like lightbulbs like some do.

    From what I have seen, his principles and values and morals are on par or better with our last 4 Presidents. Am I 100% satisfied? Of course not, but I look and go "still better than Bush" and compared to the potential Republican candidates? Miles ahead.
     
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    You display far more hate than Obama ever has. Your every comment about Obama displays your hatred for him.
     
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    None of you birther nuts have a US passport, do you? LOLOL
     
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    The topic is Obama. Leftist loser is an accurate and wholly applicable term of discriptive verbage that reflects the completely irrelavent nature of of Obama's morals and lack of values and vacancy of principles. Leftist loser is just easier to type.
     
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    Actually, Obama is quite likable. Its his utter incompetence and hatred for this great country and his degridation and imoral usary of the electorate as useful idiots to vote for his useless ass.
     
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    What does that have to do with the topic? Nothing. Changing the topic from hisloserness to passport possession is a tired and useless tactic, not to mention transparent.
     
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    Everything..

    Obama has had a US passport since he was six years old. It states his PLACE of birth.. and unless you can prove that Ann Dunham was NOT his mother, he's a natural born US citizen.
     
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    Thats irreavent and all it makes me say is so fricking what. Obama is still a loser and he will never be anything else. And his fellow leftist losers wanting to change the constitutional requirement is just plain lame. Hisloserness King Hussein is hiding something and his fellow leftist losers know it and are conspiring to create a smoke screen with crap like this. Leftists suck. In pritecting a loser like Obama from consitutional requirements weakens us all, including those who support Obama.
     
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    You call THIS the "single most powerful person on the planet"! Funny, he does not seems very powerful in the presence of a king... if they were along in the room, I bet Obama would offer to shine KING's shoes.

    Pathetic

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd425zfw5Ew"]YouTube - OBAMA BOWS in SLOW MOTION, 2 camera angles[/ame]
     
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    This is pretty scary. Looks like the Donald is going to be the REAL wikileak.
     
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    Have you seen Obama's passport? Have you ever seen passport at all? :mrgreen:
     
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    You don't have to.. Knowing he had one to travel back and forth from the US to Indonesia.. tells you that he had one and it stated his place of birth..

    Combine that with his mother being a US citizen and its a no brainer.
     
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    What a fricking assclown!
     
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    Say what? My daughter' been traveling with me for years, before she changed her original passport to American. Situations happens.
     
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    Obama returned to the US alone .. he wasn't on his mother's passport.

    Does your daughter's passport state WHERE she was born? Are you a US citizen by birth?
     
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    My passport doesn't state where I was born. No one in my family's does either.

    This is an unusual discussion.
     

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