Peace in the Middle East for All Time

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  1. Denizen

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    That crap pile of bogus peace will be Trumped by Dopey Donald Trump's negotiation of peace between USA and Canada.

    Bogus peace is achieved with filthy lucre filling Trump family and associates' pockets.

    Meanwhile, genuine peace in Palestine, Yemen, Syria, North Korea, Iran, and Ukraine remains too hard for Dopey Donald Trump.
     
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    so the wiki page is fake news?
     
  3. zalekbloom

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    I disagree. This is a small step to make Israel recognized by some Arab countries as a legitimate state. I am not President Trump supporter, but now he deserves the Nobel Prize more than Obama deserved.
     
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    no it was none as israel..read the link and it’s cites.
     
  5. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ISIS are Sunni, Iran are Shia, they are not the same.
     
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    Please name a nation that can now trust ANY deal they make with America.
     
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    Can you even point inconsequential Palestine on the map? Doubtful...
     
  8. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you want them in alphabetical order, or how?
     
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    WRONG YOU LOSE
     
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    TRY TRY TRY AGAIN DEFINE WHAT A COUP IS.
    You can even use wiki since you seeminly do not know.
     
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    I dunno but trump huggers seem to always call it that.
     
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    That takes thought......
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    Actually, there is a Palestinian state.

    Palestine is recognized by 138 of the UN member states.

    Others fully believe Palestine SHOULD be a state.

    When the UNSC (as the body that determines statehood for the UN) considered Palestine's application for statehood, the majority confirmed Palestine as a state, and that failed only because the USA used its veto power.

    With a vote of the general membership, Palestine remains as a non-member observe state with rights of membership in the various branches of the UN - the courts, etc.

    It would be fully legal for them to bring charges against Israel. They just haven't done that.
     
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    He said nothing about Arab StateS.
     
  15. WillReadmore

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    I really don't think you have a CLUE what you're talking about

    ISIS is a group that is absolutely miniscule compared to any population and has no political representation in the entire region. They are terrorists. They are unique in that they actually wanted to own land and have a government - really weird for such groups. But, they have not succeeded.

    The vast majority of those who fight against ISIS are Sunni Muslims.

    Beyond that, Shia are a small minority of Islam. Sunni Islam is about 85% to 90% of Islam.

    Shia are a majority in Iran, Iraq, Bahrain, Azerbaijan and maybe Yemen, but about half of all Shia in the world live in Iran.

    So, if you're trying to make some sort of big deal about religion, how dedicated do you think Trump's buddies in Bahrain and Iraq will be in opposing Iran?

    And, if you think SA is a good fit with America, you really DON"T have a clue.
     
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    Kosovo Awards Trump With Order of Freedom for Peace Efforts

    PRISTINA, KOSOVO (AP) — Kosovo's awarded U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday with one of the country's highest honors for his government's efforts on peace and reconciliation in the former war-torn region.

    President Hashim Thaci awarded Trump with Kosovo's Order of Freedom “for his exceptional contribution for the freedom of Kosovo and the strengthening of Peace and reconciliation in the region.”

    The honor is given to local and foreign citizens for their high contribution in defending Kosovo’s freedom.

    Trump's administration has been working to normalize relations between Serbia and Kosovo, two former Balkan war foes, and two weeks ago Serbian President Aleksander Vucic and Kosovo Prime Minister Avdullah Hoti signed an economic normalization deal at the White House.

    Thaci also awarded Trump's National Security Adviser Robert O'Brien and his envoy for Serbia-Kosovo talks Richard Grenell with the lower Presidential Medal of Merits, saying they were “indispensable” for the deal.

    Kosovo, a former Serbian province, and Serbia have been negotiating under European Union mediation since 2011 on normalizing their ties. Serbia fought a brutal 1998-1999 war with separatist fighters in Kosovo. The war ended after NATO conducted a 78-day airstrike campaign against Serbia.

    Kosovo was run by the United Nations for nine years before it declared independence in 2008.
    Most western nations recognize Kosovo’s statehood, but not Serbia.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...trump-with-order-of-freedom-for-peace-efforts
     
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    The US contribution to that freedom of Kosovo in the Balkans war was HUGELY opposed by Republicans in the USA.

    What we've seen since is the fruit of that war - the first war in recorded history that was fought for purely altruistic reasons.

    Having Trump take credit for US Democratic party international leadership through NATO, our contribution in the war itself and the altruism that inspired that war is just one of those total injustices that happens sometimes.

    Seriously, with Trump's comments on the service of our own troops and his assault on gold star parents, what makes ANYONE think Trump would back a significant effort of altruism??
     
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    Thank you for explaining me information I already knew.
    Yes, ISIS is a group that is absolutely minuscule compared to any population, but they are SUNNI, they receive support from many rich Saudi Arabia Sunni's, they convinced many European and American Muslim to join them in fight create the Caliphate, and without any problem they won most of Iraqi territory. Only American power stopped them from creating a new Iraq-Syrian entity in the Middle East.
     
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    Trump's just "being nominated", it is your Anointed One Obama who's neck-deep in "Pees Prize" :D
     
  20. Dutch

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    Here's to four more years of stunts like that! :applause:
     
  21. WillReadmore

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    I don't accept this interpretation at all.

    Sunni's in Iraq were absolutely opposed to ISIS.

    The problem they faced is that the US was at war with SUNNIS. Sunnis were not in a position to fight the USA, fight the Shia militias that the USA supported, AND fight ISIS.

    That "debaathification" program led by the US and supported by Shia militias is universally recognized as one of the several SERIOUS mistakes the US made in Iraq.

    And, things got only slightly better when the Bush administration discovered what a major blunder that was. By that time, ISIS was far more strongly established as one of the few organizations in the region that didn't have their full forces on slaughtering Sunni citizens.

    THEN, Bush made the POINT MAN of the Iraqi side of our debaathification program to be the leader of Iraq - the guy who's militias were slaughtering Sunni citizens, the guy with the closest ties to Iran.

    Beyond that, ISIS claims to being Sunni are ABSOLUTELY opposed by Sunni Islam the world over. By FAR, the majority of those who fight against ISIS are SUNNI!!


    As I previously point out, you have NOT figured out what happened in Iraq and you're clueless about ISIS. Your guesses about ISIS will continue to cause you to come up with nonsensical ideas.
     
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