Pensioner, 78, arrested for murder after 'stabbing burglar to death in his home'

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  1. chris155au

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    Any idea what laws would be invoked?
     
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    Okay well simple question: What restrictions are there if any for home CCTV in Germany?
     
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    What is your evidence for that?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Ask @Thedimon, he brought up US gun laws!
     
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    Well to be perfectly honest, I really don't know the story at all. If the scum had been plaguing and intimidating the guy for months then I have even less sympathy for the fact that he was killed. However, I can see how the law would have found him guilty of manslaughter even though I'm not comfortable with it.
     
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    Where did I ever suggest that the general public should kill people? I simply said that if you break into someones house then you deserve everything that happens. If you break into someone's house don't be surprised if you wind up dead. However, it is obviously ill advised and potentially illegal for someone to take lethal action against an intruder, but hey, sh*t happens.

    Uh, how about because I'm not a piece of human garbage criminal? Is that good enough for you?
     
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    Excessive force and negligence come to mind off the top.
     
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    What does age have to do with someone deliberately engaging in criminal activity, and victimizing someone else for their own benefit?
     
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    The black powder exemption found in the National Firearms Act relates to pre-cartridge firearms that use a charge of loose powder, rather than self-contained cartridges loaded into an open breech. A short barreled shotgun is only exempt if it is a muzzleloader.
     
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    Excessive force? I thought we were talking about intruders who injure themselves while in the act with no home owner present.
     
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    Just a quick note...Don't read too much into the idea of 'shot in the back means running away'. In reality the time involved in the fellow turning around and the victim shooting could be less than a second...too quick for the victim to stop the shot even if he realized the perp was moving away.
     
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    Well he clearly isn't as far as you are concerned. He is a child killer and that is not what we are discussing
     
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    I was talking about shooting in the back and deliberately killing someone who is not yet an adult. The rest is your drama.
     
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    It goes with your logic.



    Uh, how about because I'm not a piece of human garbage criminal? Is that good enough for you?[/QUOTE]
     
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    A wee hint Diamond lil if it ever should happen. When I was on a self defence course I was taught the thing to shout is 'Fire'. 'Help' often gets people scared but they apparently tend to rush to see a fire.
     
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    Thats bullshit. It is allowed you just have to place a sign at your yard that it is video taped.
     
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    So--then the criminals knoww to hunt it down and destroy it.

    Obviously your homes in Germany are not your castles.
     
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    No, in most cases it prevents crime since they know the area is viewed. The sign doesnt stae where teh camera is not anything else, simply that the area is under control.

    Since our crimr rates in general are 12 times lower than yours i assume your homes are open for storm?
     
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    Law suits have been filed on both types, but negligence seems to be the one when no one else is at home.
     
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    It means the police believe the 78 year old was only reacting to perceived threat. Nothing to do with games and prizes.
     
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    The word 'bullshit.' contains 20% of your 'posts'. Do you have something more brainy except personal attacks and insults?
    Lack of intellect in Germany?
     
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    In the US you have 101 guns per 100 citizens in Germany 31 guns per 100 citizens. Not really disarmed.

    In the US any citizens is allowed to protect itself by guns, not in Germany


    If I legally own a gun in Germany and use it to defend myself no court will sentence me.


    And when the guy wasn't rich and wealthy, but poor, youth and immigrant?Prison?

    Ernst B. shot a teenager who wanted to rob him. Now the district court Stade has condemned the 81-year-old man for manslaughter.

    http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/just...essen-auf-einbrecher-verurteilt-a-999523.html
     
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    no we dont know that at all. But what kind of mother or father puts the intruders safety above their own children? Thankfully not one parent Ive ever met has stated what weve seen here. That kind of warped thinking makes my skin crawl. Imagine an intruder heading towards your children and the parent doing nothing except call out to neighbors. So what are the neighbors supposed to do, come over to your house and fight your intruder? ick...I cant believe their are parents out there like this. Their poor children.
     

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