People furious as star athlete insults Islamic prophet Muhammad

People furious as star athlete insults Islamic prophet Muhammad (msn.com)

Over the weekend, Penn State Nittany Lions star wrestler Aaron Brooks won his third national championship...

The writer of the piece notes that Brooks "... made some disparaging remarks about the Islamic profit [sic] Muhammad that left many people quite offended..."

Apparently msn.com isn't a big believer in editors. Or maybe they know something I don't, and it's time to invest in the profit Muhammad (Propeller Beanie Upon Him).

“It’s everything. Christ’s resurrection is everything,” Brooks said after the match. “Not just his life, but his death and resurrection. You can only get that through Him. The Holy Spirit only through Him. No false prophets, no Muhammad or no anyone else. Only Jesus Christ himself.”

The usual suspects are not amused. To those who are offended: I recommend they call their mommies and have a good cry, like the precious little snowflakes they are.

 

People rip on Jesus every day, including people right here in this forum. and as messed up as it is, they should be able to if they want. Why should Islam or its profits be off the table?

 

I'm not even sure I see what's so "insulting" about what he said. Essentially, he said 'I prefer my faith to yours or anyone else's.' Which is basically what anyone says when they wear a crucifix, yamika, hijab, etc. Get over it.

 

“It’s everything. Christ’s resurrection is everything,” Brooks said after the match. “Not just his life, but his death and resurrection. You can only get that through Him. The Holy Spirit only through Him. No false prophets, no Muhammad or no anyone else. Only Jesus Christ himself.”

Them's fighting words in the Islamic world. The kind of declaration that gets you your head sliced off live streamed on jihadi websites.

 

So what? Unpopular free speech is the only speech which needs protecting. Leftists love to insult Christianity but some how foolishly think the religion which specifically orders people to be put to death for numerous "offenses" is some how better. News flash: It is not and no beliefs should ever be disallowed from criticism.

 

Who is upset? Muslims or more than just them?

 

Yeah it doesn’t seem insulting, but even if he actually did say something insulting, why are they so insecure about it? Why not just laugh, anticipate the infidel will be in hell, shrug and say infidels will be infidels?

 

The religion of piece(s)

 

For the most part, I think people have every right to condemn remarks they see as islamophobic, or anti-semitic, or homophobic, or racist, or anti-christian or anti-asian. The outrage of people is the the right consequence of speech that offends the public sensibiilities. And they should feel free to disinvite them from picnics, shove them out of the Kiwanis club, and shun them when they see them at the grocery store and refuse to allow them to be pallbearers at their funeral. Say unpopular things, become unpopular for saying them.

But when we start looking to make them pay a financial price.... that's when I get nervous.

 

It shouldn't.
Many people do not talk about Islam because they fear Islam's violence and hatred

 

Just them. Islam is not tolerant of other religions.

 

Ah, Islam. The botttome feeder of the current religions. This is like people arguing over who is more awesome, Aries or Thor.

 

It seems like Muslims are trying like all hell to force the proclivities of their religion on everyone else. I am a Catholic but I do not try to tell anyone else what to believe or not to believe. I even leave atheists alone as long as they leave me alone. I do not believe in the Christian’s cults such as Baptists or Mormons but I let them be. Muslims needs to grow up and realize that this is not year 1023 but 2023. Christians and Jews have given up stoning adulteresses to death a long time ago so Muslims need to outgrow their terrorist roots. No it is never acceptable to have sex with 12 year old girls or “marry” the and Muslims need to stop accusing those of us who call you guys out for finding such an outrage acceptable.

 

Shouldn't that equally apply to your reaction to their statements? I mean, aren't you essentially doing exactly the same thing as these "usual suspects" - seeing something you don't like in the world and posting on the internet to moan about it?

I feel the use of the word "furious" in the headline was rhetoric at best and an outright lie at worst. The three tweets they quoted were relatively calm and balanced, and surely they would have picked out anything more extreme and dramatic if they could find it. I've certainly seen much worse in the context of other controversial incidents in sport, such as NFL players kneeling during the national anthem, transgender athletes being (or not being) able to compete or disagreeing with a referee's critical on-field call. If they hadn't been responding somewhat in defence of Islam, would this even be reported at all?

 

In the middle ages they did it with swords on horseback. Today they do it with intolerance and threats.

 

Why is it "messed up" ?

I mean, is it "messed up" to rip on Judaism , Islam, Hinduism, Shintoism , or Atheism ? Or just some and not others ?

Please explain.

 

As a card-carrying heathen, Islam is the only religion I have a problem with. Alone among the major faiths, Islam is a political movement and always has been.

America's first encounter with militant Islam occurred in the 18th century, when our maritime civilians were being murdered & enslaved in the Mediterranean. In 1786, Thomas Jefferson & John Adams were ordered to London to find out why & attempt a negotiated settlement. They were received by the Envoy from Tripoli, Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. He explained very matter of factly (as reported by Jefferson to Secretary of Foreign Affairs John Jay) "... that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman [Muslim] who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once."

We were not a world military power in the 1700s. Neither oil, Palestine, nor American involvement in the Middle East had anything to do with it. Daggers or box cutters, only the centuries & technology have changed. The dogma & ideology are constant.

If you have Muslim friends, it's probably best to avoid the topic of the Prophet (Propeller Beanie Upon Him) and Aisha. A dude in his 50s banging a 9 yr old is kind of a touchy subject.

 

I wish Charlie Hebdo would do a cartoon of Jesus taking Mohammed doggy style

 

I don't have an explanation. I don't know why some religions are fair game and some aren't but IMO there should be no special rules applied to ANY of them. If some network wants to make a Muhammad cartoon they should be able to do it.

 

That's an interesting take, but I'm not seeing what's "calm and balanced" about the first tweet:



How was the wrestler's profession of his own personal faith "disgusting" and exactly how is the NCAA "promoting" this so-called "anti-Muslim rhetoric"?

Certainly, that's "calm" compared to murdering cartoonists and filmmakers, but his comments come across as rather unhinged to me.

 

Ok, but just so I understand you correctly, ripping on Jesus is "messed up" but it's ok since "there should be no special rules applied to ANY of them".

 

You speak the truth in my opinion.

 

Essentially yes, hence my use of the word "relatively". I was more thinking of the lack of the all too common calls for people to be summarily fired, boycotts against any organisation vaguely related or some kind of radical legal action.

I'm not saying any of the responses were right or good (nor am I saying that of the original quote), I just don't think any of it is worthy of national news coverage.

 

Jefferson already owned a copy of the Koran, obtained while he was a law student in the 1760s. Some have argued it influenced his contribution to the original Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, which established protections for the right to worship for “... the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and infidel of every denomination.”

After he & Adams met with the envoy, he urged all Americans to read the Koran, so we'd have a better understanding of who we were dealing with and where they were coming from. Jefferson's copy currently resides in the Smithsonian. When Rashida Tlaib was elected, she made noises about using it during her swearing in ceremony. She decided to use her own, instead of one that was owned by an evil dead white guy.

TJ's Koran.

 

While I'm certainly not defending the Islamic inspired and supported aggression and piracy you describe there, lets not forget this is the America which was still treating Africans and Native Americans as second-class citizens (or worse, sub-human), at least in part because those people's had their own "heathen" religions and often refused to just give them up and accept Christianity. There weren't many truly good people involved in any of that period of rapid expansion and interactions between multiple different cultures (and religions).