Poles furious after Russia blames them for starting WWII

http://news.yahoo.com/poles-furious...678.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb

Russian ambassador to Poland has blaimed Poland for WW2.

he says Poland provoked the Russian invasion.

Poland responds saying this ignores history. And makes excuses for Stalin's aggression.

 

Do they also blame the Poles for making the Russians murder of 22,000 polish officers? Sounds a lot like some here that blame the other guys for their own actions, no one with an operating brain is buying their propaganda.

 

absolutely disgusting that the Russians would actually blame Poland for the invasion in 1939 by the Nazis and Soviets.

shameful and disgusting.

 

he said

 

Is there a reason you started this thread after I made an identical one three hours earlier, Ronstar?
http://www.politicalforum.com/russia-eastern-europe/426220-poland-started-second-world-war-says-russian-ambassador.html
Just wondering.

 

Russian Ambassador Sergey Andreev on Friday described the Soviet's 1939 invasion of Poland as an act of self-defense, not aggression.

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is this Putin's way of justifying a new invasion of the Baltic states and Poland?

 

true
video time 1:25 the russia army meet Germany army half way [video=youtube;oFTtuHxxBLo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFTtuHxxBLo[/video]
to check the german advance they didnt want Germany on there border so close, Poland was weak thats why russia had to intervene and advance to stem Germany army

 

Russian Ambassador is absolutely right. The Poles, in alliance with the Germans and Hungarians have started World War II in 1938. By attacking Czechoslovakia. It is known to all. All other calls - a distortion of historical facts and propaganda for silly sheep.

 

By the way, Russia should return their land (the Baltic states). These lands Russian tsar bought at Swedes. If someone does not like to live in Russia - could leave in EU or the United States. For example as refugees from the Middle East leave in EU. Baltic States - private property Russia.

 

If the Tsar paid for those lands, then they belong to Russia...unless of course the Baltics want to buy them back from Russia. In that case they should pay them the equivalent of what the amount would be today.

Russia should take it to International Court, and if Russia loses then it can use the case to take back Alaska. Smart move huh?

I find it odd though, how an aggressive war by Nazi Germany to take Russian lands so as to feed its people, has now become a war of aggression by the Soviet Union rather than a defensive war. But then envy has a way of warping people's minds.

 

Bravo!

 

As he wrote the most charming Winnie the Pooh British political thought - Winston Churchill: "Poland - the same Poland, which only six months ago, as greedily hyenas eagerly took part in the robbery and destruction of the Czechoslovak state!"

Or do you think that Churchill knew less than you?

 

Did you know that - Polish Ambassador in Paris, Lukasiewicz yet May 21, 1938 assured the US Ambassador in France, Bullitt that Poland immediately declare war on the Soviets, if they try to send troops through Polish territory to help Czechoslovakia? Or the Western media do not write about it?

From an interview with Churchill for Reuters: "The dismemberment of Czechoslovakia by the Anglo-French pressure means the complete absence of European democracy from the threat of the use of force on the part of Nazi Germany, Poland and Hungary. This capitulation It has the nature of catastrophes, it does not contribute to the strengthening of peace and security of the UK and France . On the contrary, it will inevitably lead both countries to a state where they eventually will be deprived of any opportunity to resist. "
The Soviet Union was ready to provide military aid to Czechoslovakia. But in May 1938 the Czechoslovakian President Benes said British Ambassador: "Relations between Czechoslovakia and Russia have always been and will be of secondary importance, they will depend on the relations between France and the UK. Only the presence of the Franco-Russian alliance made possible the modern union of Czechoslovakia with Russia. If, however, Western Europe will turn away from Russia, Czechoslovakia and turn away from it. "

Therefore Poland guilty at the beginning of the Second World War, no less than Germany.
Therefore the Soviet Union Only defended themselves.

 

Some reasons not to be sorry for the fate of Poland:

Reason №1.The agressive war against Soviet Russia. 1919 - 1920.

Reason №2. The genocide of Soviet POWs. About 150 000 of Soviet POWs were murdered in Polish concentration camps in 1920 - 1921.

Reason №3. Since 1926 Poland was a fascist dictatorship.

Reason №4. Pilsudski- Hitler pact signed in 1934.

Reason №5.The occupation of Czechoslovakia in 1938.

Reason №6. The rejection of Soviet assistance in 1939.

"...that very Poland which with hyena appetite had only six months before joined in the pillage and destruction of the Czechoslovak State." Churchill.

The hyena was killed in 1939. Good riddance .

 

The pure logic say the Russian ambassador could not say that Poland provoked "Russian invasion". Russian ambassador said Poland blocked the creation of anti-Hitler coalition many times and thus it's partly responsible for starting WW2. That's simple historical fact. Poland did not allow USSR to help Czekhoslovakia when it was invaded by Germans in 1938, moreover Poland itself took part at occupatiuon of this country - together with Hitler - and annexed Teschin region. That wasn't smart though, and the Poles later had an opportunity to understand that.

 

On September 25, Polish Ambassador to Moscow Katarzyna Pełczyńska-Nałęcz was summoned to the Foreign Ministry in connection with a strong protest over the defacement, by a group of unidentified vandals, of over 50 tombstones and monuments at the graves of Soviet soldiers in a cemetery in the town of Milejczyce (Województwo podlaskie), where over 1,600 Red Army soldiers, who fell on Polish soil during World War II, are buried.

Once again, the Russian side is compelled to note that the Polish authorities ignore our repeated calls for exhaustive measures to be taken to stop and prevent the increasing instances of vandalisation of the burial sites of Soviet soldiers, who gave their lives to liberate the country from the Nazi occupiers. The impression is forming that mockery of our memorials has been elevated in Poland to the level of state policy, considering that as of late, the Polish authorities have not made a single official comment condemning such actions. None of those guilty of these acts have been held accountable.

The Russian side demands that exhaustive measures be taken to search for and punish the perpetrators, that the defaced tombstones in the Milejczyce cemetery be restored without delay and that the Polish side provide an official explanation for its outrageous failure to honour its obligations to protect Russian military burial sites, in keeping with the Agreement between the Government of the Russian Federation and the Government of the Republic of Poland on Burials Sites and Memorials of Victims of Wars and Repression of February 22, 1994.



September 25, 2015

http://en.mid.ru/en/web/guest/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/1793734

 

In the case of the mass murder committed by Russia, yes I do know more than he since at the time Churchill did not know the Russians had committed the deed and did not know all the other atrocities committed by Russia. Deny and dance around the facts but History does not require you to believe in them to still remain the facts.

 

Yet...not surprising.

 

Nobody lies like Russians lie

 

It was really very funny. Bravo.

 

a Muscovite nazi and leader the biggest in Europe nazi party LDPR. what they want to get out out this? the second Molotov - Ribbentrop agreement . they say "don't blame Hitler(who was a good guy according Putin a good guy) and Stalin for ww2, the Poles were responsible for everything, lets share the Europe like we did it in 30th. "

 

wow, maybe we should have nuked Moscow in 1945, rather than Hiroshima

 

Cannibals in the American government wanted it. But they can fight only with the defenseless, therefore corny - scared.

 

not cannibals, wise men who saw the evil of Stalin.

in many ways, Stalin was a greater danger than Hitler.

 

That's why the US sat back and let them pretty much clobber each other. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. They should have listened to Patton