Poor Christie just swiftboated himself

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed, and as far as the GOP nomination is concerned, he isn't lugging around all the luggage that is weighing Romney and Perry down.

    I realize that one has to be half-crazy to run for president right now, but the presidency is there for Christie's taking. If he's dreaming about becoming president one day, he should realize that his best opportunity is staring him in the face right now.
     
  2. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    Of course it isn't, but the purity test has already cast it's shadow on the Republican field.......

    What makes you think Christie will be immune from that if he got the chance to debate, put his positions out there, and reveal some of his warts?
     
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    Christie is backed by the Koch bros. Goldman Sachs.. Bank of America..

    I know why he is backed by them.. it doesnt mean Christie has been bought out by them.. mabye they have a "Tiger by the tail".

    When Obama was running and so many were folled by the hopey changey thing.. I pointed out that his biggest supporters were Big bankers and Wallstreet pigs.. its the same group backing Christie now.

    If he runs and wins.. it wont be any worse than Obama... if we are all incredibly fortunante , he will turn on his handlers and do what is right by the american people... Obama had his chance and sold everybody out.. If Christie is the republican offering.. I could see voting for him.
     
  4. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your boy Cheney already tried that but the Clintons are too smart for him.
    Both Bill and Hillary rejected Cheney's dishonest advice for what it really was.
     
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    And about 140,000,000 people went to work every day compared to 131,000,000 or less under the Democrats.
     
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    I think Christie should learn from the mistake of Mario Cuomo and run while he has the wind in his sails.

    The Anybody-But-Obama wave is going to wash someone into the White House this year and it could very well be Christie.
     
  7. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would any sane repub want to get in bed with the rabid right and the ********** crowd?
    They'd have to sell their soul to the devil to get the approval of that mob.
    Poor Romney is giving it a go, and so far, he's twisted himself like a pretzel to get their support and he's failed.
    I don't know much about Christie because he's not a candidate, but I liked his reagan library comments.
    If he does decide to run, I'd look at his record and whether he is sticking to it or pandering to the far right.
     
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    Such questions/tests are natural during the course of a presidential primary, regardless of the candidate and the party.

    Of course, Christie and his policies will be subject to scrutiny and debate, but that's the case with all of the other GOP candidates. The fact is, he's no more "pure" or "unpure" than the other candidates, and as I pointed out to sec, he isn't lugging around the baggage that is weighing down the other candidates. Mark my words: if he runs, he gets the nomination.

    As I stated earlier, the Right is not an ideological monolith, so trying to find or establish some sort of "purity" conflicts with that reality.
     
  9. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because no sane repub is about to to crawl into bed with the rabid Left and the "progressive" (socialist) crowd. ;)
     
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    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Absolutely so. What purity test did McCain pass in 2008?

    This whole notion of a "purity test" is just the latest dump truck load of B.S. propaganda the left has backed up to the dock. And ask yourself who was the last democrat candidate that bucked leftist orthodoxy in any way of note. Perhaps Birch "Evan" Bayh (who got about as much party support as Eldridge Cleaver at a Klan rally).
     
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    lol just because conservatives want anyone but obama (didnt they always?) doesnt mean the independents do.

    you still have to find an electable mainstream candidate....and your only one isnt popular with evangelicals or with the teaparty
     
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    I think Christie would be very formidable as a candidate.

    I don't think he's running though....but if he does, there's no telling how much luster he's going to lose by actually becoming a candidate.

    Right now, he's the latest shiny new thing that people can't have. Trump, Palin, Bachmann, Perry........we HAVE seen this before. The case that "it's different this time" is pretty weak. I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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    If you base it on the alleged independents who post around here Obama is a lock in 2012.

    But the polls are not so positive.
     
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    Ya think? The left has been trying to define for us what the Tea Party is about. But they haven't a clue because accountability and integrity are things they don't understand.
     
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    I'm not championing the Democrats. They aren't making things better, either. It's preposterous to point fingers at the Democrats while supporting the Republicans, though. Their unfettered control of the government from 2001-2006 all but destroyed our national economy.
     
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    In that case you should join the Tea Party.

    They are the only group working to change the status quo in Washington.
     
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    I find this statement interesting. While I don't disagree that the media continuously and often unfairly defines the tea party, surely the same tactic is done to the "liberal" position as well. I would also suggest that many of the positions presented and defined by the media as "liberal" would revolve around social accountability and economic integrity, such as raising the taxes on the wealthiest of society at a time when their wealth disparity has more than doubled.
     
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    Unfortunately, I see the Tea Party as being too much a lap dog to the Republican party. When it first sprung up, the Tea Party movement really gave me hope that the true conservatives in this country were waking up and legitimately leaving the big government for big business corporate Republican party, but at the end of the day, they are so rabidly anti-Democrat, that they really only serve as a voting block and medium of disseminating talking points for the Republicans.
     
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    Yea, Christie is in real big trouble now. Stick a fork in him...:roll:

    Do these fringe liberals ever get tired of looking like idiots?
     
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    you just don't understand Reagan. Christie was speaking to (and reaching) the 60% of Americans in the middle.
     
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    You're tough to please.

    The Tea Party works within the Republican Party but they have not been welcomed by the Borrow and Spend Republican establishment.

    Even the pro GOP Washington establishment Wall St Journal called them NAZI's.

    So they must be doing something right.
     
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    he can't be done, he hasn't jumped in the oven.
     
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    Cain and Palin are retards? LOL. That is rich. I remember reading Palins 235 page PDF on getting Alaska to a 50% renewals by 2025 and seeing Obama bring out his 50% renewals plan by 2025 years later. Or her ACES initiative, tackling big oil for her state.

    I think there are more than a few retards out there on all sides of the aisle...Cain and Palin sure ain't on that list.
     
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    It's all for show...they marginalized the movement and rendered it nothing but a base mobilizer for the party...

    Surely, the movement is not nothing, but it isn't what it could have been...
     
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    Christie would make a fine candidate for president. He's not some radical religious freak, and he's not a neo-con warmonger. He's been pretty productive here in NJ as well. The only problem I have with him so far is he hasn't the stones to address all the problems that are plaguing our education system. Only on this one issue does his responsible no-nonsense reputation dissolve into pandering to radical conservatism.
     

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