Pope suggests Catholic Church could bless same-sex couples

Those that are NOT Catholic, are in a better postion to be objective about how inhumane some of their dogma is.
All people have merit , and should be treated fairly and those that are different from the so called "norm" should be treated with humanitarian compassion ....and respected for who they are.
The Catholic dogma has been prejudicial. They have been slow to come to terms wit modern factual information based on science. ie genetics etc)Religious belief systems are prone to stay with old traditions and thinking. Humanity has seen/ worshipped a large variety of gods. It is an ongoing evolution of thinking. Personal "spirituality" is just that: Persoanl. It is that enhancement of the human thinking and behaving following the most humane of principles and ethics.

 

Something tells me that if the Catholic Church just blessed "domestic unions", that wouldn't be anywhere near enough for you.

Neither would it be okay if they just said abortions are okay for up to 6 weeks, and after that there needs to be medical reasons to do it.
To you it would be like only giving you a tiny slice of the cake.

 

You are aware genetics has not really proven anything on this issue definitively?

 

The only reason it matters is that a segment of a world population is being prejudiced.

But...... each to his own. Unfortunately, these biases foster even more prejudice when they come from those that some see as authority..

 

Well, right off the bat, about one third of the world is Muslim...

I'd say the Catholics are doing pretty good compared to that.

Maybe you would do better to devote more energy trying to get the Muslim world to change.

 

There is no need to get nasty. This is just a discussion. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you disagree.... indicate why, without personal attacks. If your opinion differs from others..... that is fine. We are all different with different views.

 

I noticed your attitude seems to suddenly change and done a 180 turnaround when Muslims were brought up. Is it fair to guess you might hold some double standards there? (probably rhetorical question)

I realize this thread is focusing on Catholics, and I suspect you'd like to keep the focus on Catholics & Christians.

 

Yes. this thread is about the Catholic church reconsidering their position about gay relationships/marriage.
Not sure why you brought Muslims up as they are not the topic
The group that I was referring to as being prejudiced against is the gay community.
At this stage of our collective evolution we really should be able to "live and let live" But humanity is evidence that the evolutionary process is rather slow. "Do No Harm" is a basic , but critical aspect of humanity getting along in a constructive way.
ANY prejudice i s just plain wrong and inhumane.

 

He asked that once, several thousand years ago, and ultimately the child didn't die. A lamb was miraculously provided in the child's stead. Just like the Son of God was provided in all our stead.

 

The Pope is only the chief Bishop of the Catholic church. Not the object of worship. That would be God, which includes Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

 

Great. Go down to the courthouse, get a license from the State, get married and reap all the tax benefits.

And leave the Catholic church out of the whole thing.

There, everybody's happy.

 

oh, that makes it ok, lol, he is older and wiser now

 

It is the Catholic Church that we are talking about and that it is consiering an attitude change
In reality: If gay couples what to marry......it should be up to them. It should not matter to anyone else. If they would be entitled to certain benefits....So what?? Heterosexual couples have not done that graet a job at marriage so who are they to talk??

 

Right. And in America gay couples are allowed to be married, purportedly because of the really cool benefits (lower taxes, etc.) given to married couples, although I've been married for 36 years and fail to see what that big deal is.

So it is up to gay people. Knock yourself out.

What does that have anything to do with the Catholic church?

 

No, he's been dead for a reaaaaaaallllyyyyyyy long time.

 

It seems to me to be quite overblown. The Catholic Church does not and is still not recognizing same sex marriage as valid or legal in any way.

Still, if someone, anyone, wants a blessing from the church, they can get it.

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

 

Why do they call him Holy Father the?. The Bible warns about that.

 

The Bible warns about what?

The Pope is venerated and honored as the head of the Catholic church as an organization. Priests (of which the Pope is one) are traditionally called Father. And Holy.

Nothing wrong with any of that.

 

Matthew 23:9 Jesus said: And do not call anyone on earth father, for you have one Father and He is in heaven.
You speak of an earthly tradition of man, not God.
In 1 Peter 5:9 We are declared a "chosen people, a royal priesthood......" in other words, we have only one advocate before the Father and that is Jesus, not a Pope or any other man. We are the Body of Christ. It is our only heavenly organization.

 

there was a time

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+21:17-23&version=KJV

 

Great. And what's the broader context of those verses? What specifically is being discussed?

 

I am aware of that. What was the broader context of those verses in the Gospel where when Jesus gave up His Spirit and the veil in the temple was rent in two? I would say that designated the end of "temple worship". We only have One High Priest and He, through His Spirit is to dwell within us. We don't need a Priest to come to the Father other than what was provided. The Catholic Church kept us in bondage to Latin Scri[ture for centuries where only "priests" could interpret. Now the "Word" has come and actually dwells among us and each one who has been called can read and understand for himself. We are not in bondage to a Catholic priest, though some would like to carry on the tradition. We take the sacraments out of obedience, not a condition for Salvation. We "standfast in the Liberty where Christ has set us free and are not tangled again in the yoke of bondage!"
No man is Holy on his own accord. We are only Holy to the Father when washed in the blood of the Lamb. That is available to all.

 

And that should concern me how....?

 

It doesn't....apparently.

 

Which god?. There are so many to choose from.