Practical discussion: gun storage

A) The health of this nation is at risk concerning the abundance of firearms.

B) Laws my local police department is required to follow:

Storage and Transportation Of Firearms
Chapter 284 Update: With the passing of Chapter 284 comes increased penalties for failure to properly secure a stored firearm. A conviction for failure to properly store a large capacity firearm will result in lifetime prohibition from legally owning firearms/ammunition. Reference MGL C.140 §129C



New Penalties:



Non - large capacity rifle or shotgun:

• $1,000 - $7,500 and/or up to 1 1/2 years imprisonment

Large capacity weapon or machine gun:

• $2,000 - $12,500 and/or 1 1/2 to 12 years imprisonment

Non - large capacity rifle or shotgun where a minor without an FID could gain access:

• $2,500 - $15,000 and/or 1 1/2 to 12 years imprisonment

Large capacity rifle or shotgun or machine gun where a minor without an FID could gain access:

• $10,000 - $10,000 and/or 4 to 15 years imprisonment

The law requires guns to be stored in a specific manner. All guns, when not in use, with the exception of primitive firearms, must be stored or kept “secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device,” to prevent unauthorized use. Penalties are assessed even if no underage person obtains access.

(I'm wicked smaaat)

 

Nonsense, but even if true it would still require a Constitutional Amendment to make gun control legitimate.

And any officer who agrees to support such nonsense violates his oath to the Constitution.

 

That because the people are allowed to have any ammunition at all, the measure being proposed is sufficient to pass constitutional muster.

 

Then actually go about proving such to be the case, rather than merely claiming such to be the case.

Law enforcement officers are required to operate in a lawful and honest manner, yet numerous times they have been caught in the act of planting evidence, tampering with evidence, witness intimidation, sexual assault, blatant perjury, and numerous other illegal activities.

 

That's the law in Massachusetts where my local police department is.


National health crisis:

What If We Treated Gun Violence Like A Public Health Crisis?
Alison KodjakNovember 15, 20174:58 PM ET
When U.S. officials feared an outbreak of the Zika virus last year, the Department of Health and Human Services and state officials kicked into high gear.

They tested mosquitoes neighborhood by neighborhood in Miami and other hot Gulf Coast communities where the virus was likely to flourish. They launched outreach campaigns to encourage people to use bug spray. And they pushed the development of a vaccine.

"The response was swift," says former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, and was even faster during the Ebola outbreak a year earlier.

But last month when 50 people died and more than 400 were injured in Las Vegas, and weeks later another 26 died in Texas of the same cause, public health officials have had almost no role.

That's because the victims in Las Vegas and Texas were killed with guns. And over the last three decades, Congress has made it clear that they don't want the public health community looking too hard into the causes of the violence.

"If you look at the number of people who have died or been injured from gun violence, that dwarfs the number of people who have been affected by Zika or Ebola. There's absolutely no comparison," Murthy says.

More than 30,000 people are killed with guns in the U.S. every year. That's more than die of AIDS, and about the same number as die in car crashes or from liver disease. But unlike AIDS or car crashes, the government doesn't treat gun injuries or deaths as a public health threat.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...ated-gun-violence-like-a-public-health-crisis

 

Apparently, someone is ignorant of current 2A jurisprudence, as these requirements violate the Constitution.

The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment . The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. Under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, this prohibition—in the place where the importance of the lawful defense of self, family, and property is most acute—would fail constitutional muster. Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional. Because Heller conceded at oral argument that the D. C. licensing law is permissible if it is not enforced arbitrarily and capriciously, the Court assumes that a license will satisfy his prayer for relief and does not address the licensing requirement. Assuming he is not disqualified from exercising Second Amendment rights, the District must permit Heller to register his handgun and must issue him a license to carry it in the home. Pp. 56–64.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/07-290.ZS.html

 

Which means absolutely nothing.

For the basic reason that legal firearms ownership and use are constitutionally recognized and protected rights, and cannot be restricted on the basis of their illegal misuse by those who cannot legally possess them. It is not legal firearm owners who are committing the majority of firearm-related incidents in the united states.

 

i'd no bill someone charged with violation of such a stupid law but I'd recommend felony treason charges against any cop or politician who supported such idiocy

 

many guns are banned in those two states-but you knew that

 

Are there? I’m only aware of the “assault” weapons ban.

 

Look up "California gun list".

 

I got lists of guns that are legal. Thanks. Although doesn’t matter for me since I don’t live in CA
The “assault” weapon ban might be different now but when my brother lived in CA he was able to legally buy an AR-15.

 

gee that's a gun ban-a ban on commonly owned civilian firearms that a rarely used in crime. violates several US Supreme Court holdings

 

half the guns in two shops I frequent in Ohio have NOT FOR SALE IN CALIFORNIA on the cartons. Fifth Generation Glocks for example.

 

And Massachusetts gun laws are notoriously arbitrary, capricious, and in every conceivable way a direct assault upon the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.

I remember when the different state quarters were being minted, and Massachusetts had the unbridled gall to use the Minuteman as their state quarter emblem. The irony was if the Minuteman showed up in modern Massachusetts he'd get himself thrown in jail.

Doing so is nothing but a desperate ploy by the gun banners to pull an end run around the Constitution.

 

I don't see Montana anywhere, do you?

Biographical Index of the Framers of the Constitution
For brief biographies of each of the Founding Fathers who were delegates to the Constitutional Convention, select the names or the states below. (* indicates delegates who did not sign the Constitution)

Connecticut

• Oliver Ellsworth (Elsworth)*
• William. Samuel Johnson
• Roger Sherman

Delaware

• Richard Bassett
• Gunning Bedford, Jr.
• Jacob Broom
• John Dickinson
• George Read

Georgia

• Abraham Baldwin
• William Few
• William Houston*
• William L. Pierce*

Maryland

• Daniel Carroll
• Daniel of St. Thomas Jenifer
• Luther Martin*
• James McHenry
• John F. Mercer*

Massachusetts

• Elbridge Gerry*
• Nathaniel Gorham
• Rufus King
• Caleb Strong*

New Hampshire

• Nicholas Gilman
• John Langdon

New Jersey

• David Brearly (Brearley)
• Jonathan Dayton
• William C. Houston*
• William Livingston
• William Paterson (Patterson)

New York

• Alexander Hamilton
• John Lansing, Jr.*
• Robert Yates*

North Carolina

• William. Blount
• William R. Davie*
• Alexander Martin*
• Richard. Dobbs Spaight
• Hugh Williamson

Pennsylvania

• George Clymer
• Thomas Fitzsimons (FitzSimons; Fitzsimmons)
• Benjamin Franklin
• Jared Ingersoll
• Thomas Mifflin
• Gouverneur Morris
• Robert Morris
• James Wilson

Rhode Island
Rhode Island did not send any delegates to the Constitutional Convention.

South Carolina

• Pierce Butler
• Charles Pinckney
• Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
• John Rutledge

Virginia

• John Blair
• James Madison Jr.
• George Mason*
• James McClurg*
• Edmund J. Randolph*
• George Washington
• George Wythe*

 

Battle of Lexington and Concord. They're in Massachusetts, not TexAss.

 

Right....but it’s already been established that those states have an “assault” weapons ban. You then stated that there are ‘many’ guns banned in those states. So, you were either trying to indicate that there are more guns than just “assault” weapons that are banned OR for some odd reason you thought you’d repeat what was already established. Which is it?

 

Is it even known by yourself just what firearms are classified as so-called "assault weapons" in these states? Or what the qualifying factors amount to?

 

Yes. For the record, the ban is a joke. It does nothing to make anyone safer.

 

I don't see why you'd twist yourself into such knots to miss the point either.

And each and every one of these individuals would spit in the eye of the political leadership of Massachusetts today.

And the brave men who stood against the British that day would round up the totalitarians in charge of Massachusetts today and tar and feather them before running them out of town; if they didn't hang them outright for treason.

 

Spare me your phony patriotism.

 

Nothing "phony" about it. I'm just stating facts you clearly find too uncomfortable to acknowledge honestly.

 

Ridiculous. You're just running your mouth claiming to know who is an American patriot and who isn't. BS

 

No, I'm not; but I have to laugh at you accusing ANYONE of doing such, seeing as how it's your stock in trade for the most part.

Simple fact: the state of Massachusetts today has enacted draconian gun control laws so arbitrary and capricious that even Massachusetts law enforcement officers can't figure out how to interpret them. The laws are the very type of heavy-handed totalitarian legislation that ignited the Revolutionary War in the first place, and it's hilarious to me that if a minuteman of 1775 showed up at Concord today he'd be arrested on weapons charges.

Dismiss those facts all you want, but you're the one doing nothing but "running your mouth."