Practical discussion: gun storage

Please, spare me, John Wayne.

 

Which specific laws, that law enforcement can't figure out how to interpret, are you referring to?

Which weapons charges would a minutemen of 1775 who showed up today be arrested on?

 

Lack of License to Carry and/or Firearm Identification Card, likely.

 

I'd rather be John Wayne than Benedict Arnold. Just saying.

 

ha ha, let's not overdo the melodrama

 

I live in MA. FID cards are very easy to get. I had no problem getting an LTC. The town I live in ONLY gives out LTC, as in they don't bother with the Sport and Target Only license.

 

Most obvious: what guns are even legal to sell in Massachusetts. Several manufacturers don't even sell guns to Massachusetts dealers anymore, because they can't get straight answers from state law enforcement officials about what model is lawful to sell and what isn't.

Take your pick: License to own, license to carry, public brandishment, etc. I still laugh at the footage of state officials going through the museum to put trigger locks on the muskets to comply with the "safe storage" laws.

 

Not melodramatic at all. Let's be clear: the laws that have been enacted in many states - especially the Northeast - are more draconian and authoritarian than the British laws that ignited the Revolution. That is unimpeachable fact. The Federal government has circumvented and undermined the Constitution until it is almost a dead letter.

The biggest problem in all of this is the people themselves. They have embraced having their lives micromanaged and controlled, and abdicated their responsibilities in regards to preserving the Republic the Founders fought so hard to create. Each and every one of those people who has blithely accepted the intrusions upon their liberty are complicit in the crumbling of the pillars of our Republic.

 

That's interesting.

A friend of mine who grew up in MA went in to get a license when he was 25, and was dismissed caustically with the words: "Get out of here, kid." He was 25 at the time.

 

Revolvers, semi-auto handguns, shotguns, semi-auto rifles....AK type guns are now illegal to purchase but not illegal to own if bought prior to ban. To name a few manufacturers sold in MA...Sig Sauer, Ruger, S&W, Walther, Springfield Armory, Mossberg, Berretta, HK

I have a license to carry. As do most everyone I know who has a handgun license. Everyone I've met at my club has a LTC.

What footage of trigger locks in a museum are you referring to? Could you send the link? Thanks!

 

I find that story HIGHLY suspect. What town was this in? My dad had no problem getting a license in MA....I had no problem getting a license in MA...my brother had no problem getting a license in MA. We all got our licenses at different times (as in over the span of many years) and in three different towns. I've live here all my life and never heard of anyone getting dismissed like that.

 

Minutemen didn't have either. I believe that the point is that the Massachusetts citizen didn't need permission from the state/colony to own or carry his firearm back then.

 

That would be true in MANY states today.

 

And we'd like to change that.

 

Good luck with that

 

Thank you.

 

Indeed -- no one should have to ask the state for permission to exercise any of their rights.

 

Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but the individual I am speaking of is a military veteran who has more integrity in his little finger than most people do in their entire bodies, and there is no reason whatsoever for me to doubt the veracity of the story. He purposefully left Massachusetts because as a firearms enthusiast he detested the laws there and moved to the Southwest. As for the town I'm not sure, but I know he grew up along the coast north of Boston.

That's interesting, because I've spoken to reps from several of the companies you cite above who have complained vociferously about Massachusetts' inconsistent and arbitrary laws, and Kimber is just one company that doesn't sell to Massachusetts at all.

The footage was part of a story on one of the Big Three news networks a few years ago. I'll see if I can find a link to it.

 

That doesn't make it right.

 

Like I said...no one I know has EVER had a problem getting a gun license in MA. There has to be more to the story.

Those reps can complain all they like but that doesn't change the fact that they all have guns for sale in MA. All of those manufacturers (that I mentioned) can be found at Four Seasons (to name one) in the town of Woburn.

Yes, I would interested to see this video

 

The point being that it isn't just MA.

 

More hyperbole.

 

More melodrama.

 

No hyperbole, and no melodrama.

Instead, more misdirection and dishonesty from you. I regret thinking you might prove better than that.

 

Please, with the real problems we have in this country today, like the crumbling infrastructure, or lack of leadership, being two examples, you concentrate on the gun laws in one state, Massachusetts, and claim they're equal to what prompted the Revolution, it just boggles the mind.