Rape is a horrendous, horrific felony. I don't believe a felon has any rights anyway and that is a good thing. It is up to you to choose wisely in the first place. There are plenty of pro-life women who would never abort. That's really all you (as a man) can do because your progeny's life can be snuffed out by her.
You DO realise do you not that the procedure for miscarriage is essentially the SAME procedure for abortion?
A fetus is not a child. When the fetus becomes a baby (by scientific definition) it would be wrong to kill it because it would then be classified as human.
a baby isnt independent though... also for any baby over 21 weeks theyres proof that they can survive on their own if born. so why are they considered not independent when they can function the same as a newborn baby?
It is no longer dependent on the placenta therefore in has a physical independence from the mother and although it still needs care - that care can now be supplied by anyone - father included As for survival over 21 weeks - have you seen the statistics?
you didnt answer my question. so are you opposed to all abortions after 21 weeks? since its a proven fact that they dont have to be physically dependent to the mother after that time in many cases.
Prove it please, show me how you know that EVERYONES conscience is the same and not with your own opinion but by independent scientific research, until then you comment is irrelevant and useless.
you keep going round and round with this stupidity even though it has been explained to you (with proof) but no matter you believe what ever you want, it will still be incorrect.
Well how very interesting. How then is it classfied immediately before that? Canine? Feline? Equine? Porcine?
But in your world every miscarriage would have to be investigated in order to conclude it was a natural happening, and you are not quite correct in the assumption that woman go to the doctor after a miscarriage, some don't even realize they have miscarried at all.
Utter stupidity, its already been shown to you and others that once born (be it naturally, early or by medical intervention) the rights of the baby are established. further to this would you advocate the banning of the 'coil' (IUD) as this id technically an abortion device as it stops the fertilized egg attaching to the womb lining. They sit in your womb and prevent you from getting pregnant. They do this in three main ways: they prevent your partner's sperm from getting through your womb and into your tubes they alter the secretions (mucus) in your cervix, creating a further barrier for sperm they affect your womb lining making it less likely to 'accept' an egg. Even though most doctors agree that the IUD is not an abortion device if your belief in the moment of conception being the start of a human life is sincere then you would have to ban this as well as abortion.
Actually before that it is classified as a zygote (an ovum that has been fertilized by a spermatozoon).
I agree this, if you believe in the moment of conception being the start of a human life then you would have to ban other medical procedures as well, not just abortion. Which includes the morning after pill (Plan B).
The major difference between a fetus and a child is that a fetus is an embryo which has attached to the wall of the uterus, has developed a placenta which is a nourishment and oxygen exchanger from the mother, but separate blood systems to be individual. The blood of the mother and the fetus never mingles, and there is always a membrane system between the two through which nourishment and oxygen passes. The fetus and the mother normally have different blood types Like type A with one and type B with the other. Mixing of the bloods would be fatal. A fetus does not breath or eat and is within the mother and dependent upon her for oxygen and nourishment. A baby is a birthed living creature which has been born into the environment and detached from the support systems of the mother. It must breath on it's own for oxygen, and consume foods to digest them for independent nourishment.
My feelings are well known on both the subject in general and RightToLife specifically. I feel no need to explain yet again my points.
If the answer to the question of whether they were born was yes, then the issue has been resolved completely because an abortion is no longer possible.
