"Pro-lifers" want to ban abortion....fine...

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Gorn Captain, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. WhatNow!?

    WhatNow!? New Member

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    LOL! Ya , I need to learn to break up quotations....how about I say that again, Ya, I need to learn how to break up quotations TWICE! LOL!
     
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    It is our right to protest, to march, to voice opposition of abortion. But this topic has never been brought to a vote where the people can decide the outcome. We have no idea how it would be played out..unless it actually happened. So all we can do is guess. Does the majority want abortion legal? You can't say. The outcome is not determined by the people...but SCOTUS. They are the ones who determined for the rest of us...what was moral and legal. They were the ones playing god. And their decision has murdered over 50 million unborns since 1973. They are responsible.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Our system is not a true Democracy so hence we do not get to vote on the issues such as this. I would love to see some issues that effect so much of our Nation given that chance. Put it to the people and let them descide and the issue cannot be debated or changed for at least 50 years after the People descide. I would be happy to put abortion to the People, along with some other issues, I doubt the pro-life groups would want to do it under my terms.
     
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    Out of curiosity, what are the barriers of bringing it to a vote? Certain politicians lack balls or what? Wrong people in office? I mean what is the real barrier here?

    Because the only one I am seeing is the moral fiber that has been unraveled in our society. Politicians can be bought, sold, and traded like baseball cards.
     
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    Yes, in poll after poll by different pollsters they show that the majority of Americans, whether they would have an abortion or not, believe that abortion should remain legal.

    You could always move to a country where there are no laws and no one to make them except some screaming mob.
     
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    Sounds like a description of parts of America with the appropriate left wing constituency.
     
  7. WhatNow!?

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    OK, give me a minute where I use every excuse like, "that's a red herring" or how about , "but I've stopped responding to the worthless parts of your posts - which is a significant percentage"....
    Gee, I just haven't your superb ability to squirm out of answering....:) So maybe I'll ask, What areas are those??
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Responsible behavior means solving one's own problems. It doesn't mean one must bring a child into the world, once it is conceived. Sometimes that is the most irresponsible action.

    The point is, you were lucky, and those who are unlucky were not necessarily careless. It was your "personal choice" not to wat. You should understand when you are preaching, then, that others have the same right to personal choice that you did.
     
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    Tools of debate are there for you to use, your inability to use them properly is your problem.

    I suspect you know the location better than I do given that you are likely part of the left wing peasantry.
     
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    Snuffing out a life due to inconvenience is not exactly responsible behavior. But I suspect that is only up for debate by those who have a malfunctioning moral compass. I think we've reached our impasse.

    Many are, repeat customers prove this.

    Which is why I aim to persuade them into making a different choice that doesn't always lead to death. If you want to kill your unborn child that is regrettable, but still your choice. Funding contraception and abortion with taxpayer cash however in the name of 'women's health' is just a load of crap though when most of them are elective. Elective being synonymous with "convenient at the time".
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would question the the "moral compass" of those who would refuse to provide affordable contraception , cutting the number of all those little "snuffed out lives" in HALF, reducing the amount spent on welfare, and contributing to the betterment of families and the country.
     
  12. WhatNow!?

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    I would question the moral compass of people who talk about having sex with a woman like this:

    """ I may as well have been wearing a hazmat suit while doing decon on her afterwards. Plus it helps when the woman you're nailing has endometriosis as well, I selected the woman carefully before plundering her dungeon like a level 4 adventurer."""


    Right out of their mother's dungeon to us...:)...
     
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    You're having a hard time with the concept of paying for your own stuff aren't you? If you think welfare "contributes to the betterment of families and the country" I suggest you take a tour of indian reservations. They are among the most heavily subsidized groups out there, and they are always struggling.

    Now address the rest of my previous post:

     
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    Moral compass....what is that just curious what you think it is. :) What is your moral compass?

    Those little "snuffed out lives".....what a slam, how rude, what a disgusting way to talk about the unborn. I can't use you....so I will use...YOUR POSITION.

    YOUR position....IS MORAL-LESS. Your position sees no morality...no right or wrong. Your position thinks killing is cool, hip.....right on the money for giving women the control they need....to kill. The quote you use from Clinton says it all. Its in the power and men don't have it...women do. The power to legally kill and get a way with it. The perfect crime...championed by the pro-aborts.

    God help your position..because what is good...the betterment of society....is flat out immoral in every sense of the word.
     
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    One person's "inconvenience" is another's only way to stay off the streets
     
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    I see my efforts of humor are wasted on the left wing peasantry yet again...
     
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    It is also convenience to avoid sex when you're not prepared to have another life growing within you, wouldn't you say?
     
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    Ya, the mature adults....try your humor on grade schoolers, no doubt they'll appreciate it...
     
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    Actually, I believe women all have a right to choose, but once they have made that choice, they may not kill the children in their care. Don't you? And don't tell me that conception is accidental, because they have found out what causes that. Everyone knows now.
     
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    Point out WHEN in the entire history of mankind that strategy has ever been 100% successful with a majority of the population

    We haven't reached this population level by NOT having sex
     
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    Grade school children? While they may or may not be your intellectual peers, I see no profit in exposing them to this sort of chatter.
     
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    The numerous and utter failures of the catholic church are outside the scope of this conversation. Never said mankind was ever 100% successful in it, but they were a hell of a lot better at it a while ago than we are now.

    And really, if you want to throw mud at the catholic church I would have brought up all the children's corpses in the basement to hide their numerous infractions- creepy stuff...just sayin'. It might have proved a better vantage point for you.

    Sex isn't some evil monster that shouldn't be spoken of, it is an act that is natural. But it should be done when the timing is right - not outside of it.
     
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    "Why extremists always focus on women remains a mystery to me. But they all seem to. It doesn't matter what country they're in or what religion they claim. They all want to control women."--Hillary Clinton

    Who is this Hillary Clinton? Sounds like someone with a major persecution complex!
     
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    It quite probably was, before the coming of the pill .. but it was only better through fear, you tend to find that something enforced through fear ends up being rebelled against.
     
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    I would have to challenge that assumption because there is still an amazing degree of ignorance out there - especially in relation to the efficacy of contraception or rather how ineffective some methods are
     

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