Pro-Russian thread

Discussion in 'Russia & Eastern Europe' started by Volker, Aug 17, 2009.

  1. Potap

    Potap Well-Known Member

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    Medvedev has given this mister award of Saint Andrew. Though Gorby worthy other award. At 1709 Peter the Great has founded award of Judas Iscariot for awarding traitor Mazepa. It is the unique award which Gorby has deserved.

    Award of Judas Iscariot
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    And this guy teaches someone.
     
  2. magnum

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    Some may criticise Putin for 'rolling back' democracy in Russia, but the truth of the matter is that life for the ordinary Russian has significantly improved under Putin and this may explain why support for Putin's government remains strong.
     
  3. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    Do you have a better source? If so, please feel free to post it.

    I posted two. Where are yours?


    Um...no it isnt.

    Forbes is not promoting a cause or program. Its just a magazine...a specialized media outlet.

    College is an institution. Forbes is not.
     
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  4. Potap

    Potap Well-Known Member

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    I am not surprised that you ask silly questions with requests to give you any source. As it is practically impossible to find the information on the country number 2 of the world according to quantity of the accepted immigrants in English-speaking press, except for this pity article - the result of 20 minutes of googling in English.

    http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/2/5/1/0/3/p251036_index.html

    As your truthful press does not want to enlighten you, I'll give you some links in Russian. Do not overlook to use Google translator. http://translate.google.ru/?hl=ru&tab=wT#

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Иммигр...F_.D0.B2_.D0.A0.D0.BE.D1.81.D1.81.D0.B8.D1.8E

    http://migrant.ferghana.ru/newslaw/...grantov-v-rossii-za-god-umenshilos-na-13.html

    http://www.radiomayak.ru/tvp.html?id=76411

    I have translated for you a pair of sentenses from here.
    http://www.rg.ru/2006/02/22/brazilia.html

    "Russia takes the second place after the USA among the countries which accept most of all migrants. If in the USA the quantity of migrants reaches 35 millions persons, in our country - 13,3 million. It is strangely enough, but the fourth place is occupied by Ukraine about 6,9 millions persons."
     
  5. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    Sure Forbes is. The particular cause in this case is being a media company.
     
  6. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    If they are using it specifically to make profit, then its not a cause. A cause has goals other than profit.

    Forbes is not a organization, establishment, foundation, society. It is a business. Like Microsoft or McDonalds.
     
  7. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    Just like a media company has other goals than profit ...

    Microsoft and McDonalds are not organizations now?
     
  8. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    So you are saying that if your daughter starts a lemonade stand, her lemonade stand is now an institution. I guess she is advocating Lemons or something. Got it.
     
  9. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    Is one person already an organization? If yes, then ok.
     
  10. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    If it wasnt obvious that English is not your first language before, it would be now. Good luck convincing anyone that a lemonade stand with two people is an institution.
     
  11. Potap

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    I do not know what about the USA, but Russians can register an organization consisting of one person. No problem.
     
  12. Sadistic-Savior

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    A business is not an organization in this context. McDonalds is not an "institution" like a college or charity or group promoting an ideal....like slavery. I suspect Russian law sees it the same way.
     
  13. Potap

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    Russian laws distinguishes the commercial, public and state organizations. McDonalds is also organization according to Russian laws, but this is the commercial organization. Though sometimes it is very difficultly to find the border between commercial and public organization. Sometimes the organization which is registered as public organization is engaged in commercial activity. I think Russia is not an exception.
     
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    Exactly...Russia can tell that McDonalds is a business selling burgers to make money. Not a group advocating burgers or burger rights. That is what I was trying to explain to Volker...guess the language barrier was too much though.
     
  15. Potap

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    De jure, it is so. But the life is much more various than decisions of state officials. Sometimes public organizations and public funds are engaged in activity similar to commerce. In turn private companies take part in social movements, finance social researches and so on.
     
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    So pleasant to enjoy observing a long intelligent discussion with no insults.
     
  17. Volker

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    Institution is not even an English word.
     
  18. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    There is no language barrier, because institution, organization and so on are international words, kinda Latin words. You only have problems to understand your own definition.
     
  19. Sadistic-Savior

    Sadistic-Savior New Member Past Donor

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    That must be why it appears in English dictionaries.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/institution

    Since we are all speaking English right now, the English definition is what is relevant.
     
  20. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    I'm fine with the English definition. You seem to have problems with it.
     
  21. Potap

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    Yes we speak in English now. But practically all European languages use many words of a latin origin. Plus all Indo-European languages are related and have words analogues in different languages similar on meaning and sounding. Plus languages borrow words from each other. This is so-called the language interference (imposing), It becomes obvious to every person speaking more than in one language. Words like organization, institute are international words. Russian analogues - organizatsiya, institut. German analogues - die organisation, das Institut.
     
  22. Nanninga

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    What a load of crap here, Volker! :bored:
    You may take your own personal definition of "institution", but please leave the other users take the usual meaning of this word.

    @sadistic savior
    I never denied, that many of the world's largest companies are US companies. Don't know, what you want to prove with that.

    If you wanted to conclude that Swiss companies are not competitive you were wrong.
     
  23. Volker

    Volker New Member Past Donor

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    I use the definition given by another user here. I already said so before.
     
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    The English word dick in Russian sounds "whoy" (ХУЙ).
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