Pro-Russian thread

Oh yes, now I get it

 

who have become wealthiest and most advanced culture in the history of a human race-by wasting resources from other so called potential wealthiest nations ?! dude, no one denies the fact that you are wealthiest, but you should think of accepting the truth, that you're just parasites taking advantage of other nations. on the other hand, that's been clever,.... and dishonorable of course

 

Hallo, Sadistic-Savior, how did you come to the conclusion, the US were the most advanced and the wealthiest culture?

How would you see e.g. Switzerland in comparison?

 

For GDP:

Technology is more subjective, but I've already given many examples in this thread. Most of the component of the computer you are using were probably invented or developed by Americans or American companies, for example.

 

This deals in absolute numbers, I thaught you mean per capita. In absolute values it is very doubtful that you can hold your position against China for the next 40 years. If China had a lager GDP (in absolutes), would you say they were the weathiest nation?

I'd compare rather compare the per capita values.

As for inventions as well, Swiss will not match the US in absolute numbers. Nevertheless I think that the Swiss would beat them per capita.

 

I would if I really accepted that as the truth. But I dont.

I dont know...I think I am pretty happy.

While it is subjective, most sources I have seen seem to agree with my conclusion:

Then there is the Nationmaster list. In this list - http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/lif_hap_net-lifestyle-happiness-net - the US isnt number one, but ranks higher than many nations including France (equal), Canada, Finland, Austria, Italy, Spain, China, Russia (2%? LOL), and Japan.

The million+ people coming here every year probably think they will be happier here.

Perhaps you'd rather have Nazi Germany in our position? or Imperial Japan? Or maybe the Soviets? Count your blessings. It could be a lot worse for you.

 

If we are talking about cultures as a whole, it makes sense to use absolute numbers for each culture.

I used to hear similar claims about Japan. China will need to catch up to us first, before they can pass us.

If grandma has balls, she'd be grandpa.

Lets see China produce that GDP first.

You would rather compare using any variables that would make the US look worse. Foreigners have a burning desire to take the US down a peg. It irritates them that we are on top in so many ways.

Or for importance. Inventions having to do with computer technology (for example) are probably more significant than inventions that have to do with Chocolate. Just sayin'.

 

If you take cultures as a whole it could make even sense to deal with larger scales, you can argue if Canada is not of the same culture as the US. Eventually you could even see the US, Europe, Australia and NZ as one culture. Or say at least US, Can, UK, Australia, Ireland and NZ.

It won't be too long if they keep their pace. Japan was never to catch the US in absolute numbers, maybe per capita.

Why, my question was precisely. If 1.3 billion Chinese produced a larger GDP, than 350 million Americans would you say, they are wealthier?

I use per capita values because it's a better value to compare.

Switzerland is propably the best nation in the world with regard to high quality machine contruction (although Germany has a very good reputation as well, considering the quality some of their products are even better) and anyway the market decides what's important.

 

Thanks to the Swiss Choclate you are making fun of.

 

Sadistic-Savior
Wow! "GDP" - it is a culture.?!
The problem is that you do not share two very different concepts. Culture and economy. Apparently for you the economy has evolved into a culture, perhaps even a religion. This is the path to decline.

 

Its not...they have a completely separate economy, political system and military. Our population is more diverse than theirs as well.

Not in this context.

"If" being the key word. Let me know when it actually happens.

Yes it does.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/18/global-2000-10_The-Global-2000_Rank.html

 

It is the product of a culture, and a hard representation of wealth on a cultural scale.

Why not? The culture directly produces the economy.

 

I disagree that the happiness in the US is exclusively the direct result of Swiss Chocolate.

 

More diverse than Canadian?? Of course, differences exist, I would not deny that, but it's a question how you define culture.

Ok, to conclude, I see the term wealthiest not used adequately by compariung absolute values.

You may say China is far wealthier than than Switzerland, Norway or Denmark. It's up to you, for me this is nonsense.

What do you think does that indicate?

 

What are these ranks about?

 

The market value of the world's largest companies. Nevertheless I see no sense within this context.

 

Doesn't PetroChina have the largest market value there, but it is rank #12?

 

It's porn for Americans.

 

More diverse than Canadian.

As a culture, they are. Their economy dwarfs Switzerland, Norway or Denmark combined by a very wide margin.

The list speaks for itself. Look at the top 20 in any variation of that list, and tell me how many are American companies.

It is how Forbes is ranking them with all variables combined.

 

Gorby on Vladimir...

Putin should not run for president again: Gorbachev
Fri, Mar 04, 2011 - Former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev, turning 80, accused Russia’s leaders of rolling back democracy and advised Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin to learn from the Arab experience and stay out of next year’s presidential vote.

 

lol who's going to stop him ?

 

So an American institution made a list by combining some variables.

 

Forbes is not an institution. It is a Business magazine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes

If you have a better source though, feel free to post it.

 

A business magazine is an institution.

 

It is interestingly who has created this map according to which Mongolia is happier than France? I do not understand what do you want to prove to us using this map as quite happy Uzbeks and Tadjiks emigrate to unhappy Russia. While I do not see crowds of Russian emigrants on the Russian - Mongolian border. Also it is interestingly do have thought up the creators of this map an explanation to the fact - why happy Libyans and Tunisians smash their own governments now?