I apologize. Offtop I remembered an anecdote on this subject. One man in a public bath saw that friend's penis is below the knee. Very large sizes. He asked: How did you achieved this? Friend: I trained. I hung a weight to the member and after a while my penis was stretched. A year later they met again. He: I did everything as you said, but now my penis is not worth it. What do I do now? Friend: I do not know. I'm wiping my ass own member.
Because we have not seen any other critical inventions come from China in modern times. If Americans had not invented the microchip it probably would have been Europeans who did it...or maybe the Japanese. Long before China. We are talking about programmable electronic computers. You are not using an Antikythera mechanism to post on this forum right now. The modern computer is based on the microchip. ENIAC was the first general purpose computer. There is a really good reason that the computer you are using right now probably doesnt have a German-designed processor. Then what was the first portable computer? Oh yeah. The future is not looking bright for Symbian. Nokia is betting their salvation on Microsoft (another American company). So why arent they doing both? Where is the Chinese designed answer to the iPod? How many Chinese-deisgned items do you own? Well, Wikipedia says you didnt have those first. Sorry.
What slavery? I speak you about laws of the nature. Laws of the nature do not depend on human's will. You cannot cancel Newton's law of universal gravitation. You cannot cancel the law of conservation of energy. You cannot cancel Entropy. Any complex system aspires to self-destruction. This is the objective reality in which we live. Human does not create laws of the nature. Perpetuum Mobile it is unpossible. Dont you know? You are absolutely right! It is a wasting to prove to you things which knows any in the slightest degree educated person. No wander! They have no good scientific school. This is why they are compelled to study in other countries. Graduates of foreign universities will create scientific school inside own country. Russia was in this situations in the beginning of XVIII century. When Peter the Great made modernization of Russia, he had no educated people. He sent talented youth to study in West-European universities. He invited German academicians to work in Petersburg. Great Russian scientific polymath Michael Lomonosov studied in Germany. Later he has created the Moscow university. I am surprised, why I'm to explain to you this elementary things? Great words! Tell it to the head of American Federal Reserve System. Probably he does not know it, as he prints dollars not provided with material actives.
That is my point. The "laws" have changed. The fact that there is no longer accepted slavery is evidence of that. You were not speaking of natural law before: "Historical development" is not nature. And yet you cant help yourself. You feel obligated to argue with me about something which you think is obvious to everyone. Is it possible you dont really think it is obvious? Yeah, that was my point in arguing with Volker about how the Chinese dont actually produce new technology.
Probably China did not do a lot of research in this area back then. Now they built space rockets. I am talking about computers. Programmable ones. Not necessarly electronical ones. Yes, the reason is mainly about marketing power. I'm not sure if the processors in my computers are not German designed. They are AMD processors and AMD had a design center in Dresden. The Micro Star. The future is not looking bright for Symbian. Nokia is betting their salvation on Microsoft (another American company).[/QUOTE]Ok. In your local shop, I think, it's called HTC Desire or so. From Taiwan. I can't say. There is no "Designed in China" label on it. Really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_mobile_phones
...decades behind America and Europe and Russia. The computer you are using right now is electronic. AMD processors are Intel clones anyway. And um: AMD is American too. It was founded in America by Americans - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Micro_Devices#Corporate_history - Source? The HTC Desire is not Chinese. It is Taiwanese. Taiwan is not China. Also, it is running the Android operating system....which is American. You dont say... When you find some let me know. Those were not cell phones. They were attached to a vehicle.
Priorities. They did not have to spend lots of money to be on the moon before the Soviet Union. It looks like they are more self-confident than Americans. Wow. And this relates to what I said ... how? Drain? Taiwan is China. You asked about the Chinese iPhone, not about the Chinese Android. There is no "Designed in USA" label on it, too. That's why I said mobile phones.
Or a cultural weakness. Inferior does not mean worthless. It just means inferior. You were trying to use AMD as an example of a German designed processor. I was illustrating why you are wrong. So you have no source. Taiwan has a completely separate government, military, and economy from China. When I say China" I think it is obvious I am talking about the CCP. There is no Chinese-designed iPhone. Your brought up a non-sequitur (HTC). HTC is not a Chinese company. There doesnt need to be, because I have evidence that all the examples I have used are designed by Americans. You have failed to provide evidence of similar products from China.
Oh yes, American white pride ... They could have been designed in Germany, I really have no idea. Probably they are much too new. Sure I have one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_computer When I say China, I mean China. They all look yellow, why do American white priders care? You don't know what I have here.
America isnt just white. Thats one of the reasons America is better than every other nation. Do you understand the difference between a culture and a race? (Being that you are the product of a mono-racial culture...maybe you dont) I guess that means we should not assume they did unless we have actual evidence then, eh? Geez dude, do you even read your own links? GM Research was an American company. - http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/accession/X1243.96 - Taiwan is not China. Thats why it is called Taiwan. So what? We are talking about China, not yellow people in general. I dont know if they do or not. You'd have to ask them.
So you think, you are better than others not because of your skin color but because of where you have been born. It doesn't make much of a difference. I really don't know, where they have been designed. Who said, it's not? And Colorado is not US? Who lives in Taiwan again? Swedes? Why do you care?
When did I mention myself at all? Do you even read what you are responding to? I am comparing nations and cultures. It is irrelevant where I myself was born. The way we know that Colorado is part of the US is because Colorado is subject to the Federal laws and judicial system of the US. Colorado does not have a separate economy from US, or an separate military. By contrast, there are no Chinese laws that Taiwan is subject to. Taiwan has a military that is independent of China. Taiwan's economy is completely independent of China as well. Taiwanese? So much for European education, heh heh.
You aren't a member of a nation or a culture? State laws? A budget? A National Guard? Taiwan is a part of China, a province. Close, Chinese would have been true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan#Demographics So much about American education, heh heh.
Human laws are changed. But not laws of the nature and laws of social development. I spoke about laws of historical development as this is the same as laws of the nature. You are the interesting guy as you cannot distinguish laws accepted in the senate and the logic of existence of human society, laws according to which the society develops as a system. For example laws of economic development. The law of change elite and counterelite. Laws of human psychology and so on. This is an objective reality. This is obvious for everybody but you of course. Tell me fairly what social sciences have you studied at school? I do not speak you about new technologies which were invented by Chineses. I speak you about the weight of this country and the USA are not able to do something to stop it. As to new technologies - dont be worry they there will be. All countries in the process of development firstly use another's technologies, after that start to develop own technologies - this is one of economic (historical) laws of development too. Do not overlook we still use a paper, gunpowder and a compass which were invented in China many centuries ago. That were new technologies for that time too.
Why does it matter in this context? State laws are subordinate to federal laws. All Colorado citizens must pay federal taxes. All Colorado citizens are subject to draft. Thats how we know Colorado is not a separate nation. So why do they have their own military if they are part of China? Why do they elect their own leaders and have completely separate laws? Why do they not pay taxes to China? Give me an example of another nation that has a state or province where those things are true. How can they be Chinese if they dont live in China? If they dont call themselves Chinese, why would you? Do you understand what "ethnicity" means? Are you aware that "ethnicity" and "nationality' are not the same thing? There are lots of ethnic Chinese Americans in America too. Do those count as Chinese nationals as well? ....where we are actually taught the difference between ethnicity and nationality.
Then explain why slavery was once common but is now reviled. There are many things about human society that are not "natural". Should I feel flattered that you are putting all this effort into convincing me, and only me, of something that is "obvious" to everyone else? Why am I so important? To stop what? YOU consider it to be inevitable. But your personal opinion is not infallible. At one point it looked like Japan was going to pass us up too. That never materialized either. Uh huh...well, let me know when China actually produces tech that we havnt already seen before somewhere else. Usually decades ago. Native technologies are not automatically surpass foreign ones. It is not a given. I didnt. I even pointed them out in my own posts. But that was then. This is now. Using your logic they should already be far ahead of us, since they had a head start of thousands of years. So why are they not already ahead of us?
If someone says "my country is the greatest", it reads like "I am the greatest" to me. Draft? What draft do you have in Colorado? They are like a alternative Chinese government for historical reasons. Serbia. You want to think about this question again? They call themselves Chinese. This is a good start for answering your question about, how they can be Chinese. They can count as Chinese. If they have a Chinese passport, they probably count as Chinese nationals. In this case you can't blame your education system anymore.
Then you need to read more carefully. It isnt just Colorado, it is the US. Thats the point. There was no Colorado draft during Vietnam. It was a US draft that included Colorado residents. If Colorado was a separate nation, it would not be subject to US draft. Even if that is true, they are still not China. Canada is not an alternative US government. The US is not an alternative British government. Serbia has no claim of any kind on Bosnia. They cannot be Chinese nationals if they are not citizens of China. If you did not understand the difference between "ethnicity" and "nationality" before...do you understand it now? Have you been educated on the difference?
Leave alone slavery! I do not speak you about laws established by people in parliaments. I speak you about objective laws of existence and development of society. So your slavery was abolished because the logic of social development demanded its abolishing. Is it difficult for understanding? You are the good teacher of English for me. In turn I try to correct your blanks in education concerning to social sciences. I think we supplement each other. Pushing off the USA on the second position by China is inevitably. They do not need high technologies to do it. Just imagine a hypothetical situation at which GNP of China per capita is 4 times less than American GNP per capita. Taking into account the fact of almost fivefold superiority in the population China already becomes economy number 1. Unfortunately for you this hypothetical situation becomes a reality. All native technologies are based on foreign technologies. There is no sense to invent a bicycle, but we can improve invented earlier. American technologies are also based on discoveries and technologyes made in Europe in XIX and first half of XX centuries. You dont. Others do. Even your NASA uses gunpowder in its space rocket systems. According to your logic Rome should rule the world even now as it was the most advanced. According to my logic leaders come and go away.
I am using slavery as an example of why they are not objective. Case in point. It is an example of where social "rules" changed permanently. The fate of a given nation is not something that is written in stone, which is what you seem to be implying. That is an example of what I just said above. You speak as if it is a given...as if you have seen the future. But a lot of people predicted that Japan would do the same thing. So you can understand why I am skeptical. They have had numerical superiority from the beginning. So why is it so special now? The first person to actually make a working Microchip was American. China does not have very many "firsts" like that when it comes to technology. In fact, I cant think of any at all. People make a huge deal about China going to the moon...the US did that in the 60s! Europe also had a lot of "firsts" with technology. Russia did too. China? Not so much. Thats another good example. But China has far more resources than Rome...and has had them for a very long time.
I already read between the lines. Was there a draft for native Americans living in reservations? Canada and US governments don't claim to be the British government, too. Bosnia? Kosovo is the province in this case. Chinese are Chinese nationals now? I have been educated about the difference in secondary school or so.
