Proselytizing

Yeah, a real Christian you are. A bit of soap washing your mouth could go a long way. I hope your secular buddies think higher of you than you do your fellow Christian Brothers and Sisters. Contemptable, you are. You give Christians a bad name.

 

All this negativity toward those religious types that stop by one's home and are considered a bother. None of us really like this, but with the experience some of you have had, I would question the Christianity of those that did not politely leave. I know of no one like that personally and its understandable why some of you are so p'd. Just don't go lumping the majority of us Christians as anything like them. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Besides most of us Christians speak out against those that act out a non-Christian attitude and behavior. They are really just worldly people.

 

Awesome. Good eye.

 

OK, Yoda.

Ouch.

 

The Jehovah's Witnesses come around about twice a year. I an polite to them and just tell them I go to the local Lutheran Church (I rarely go, I'm kinda lazy that way).

These are usually several Black ladies. They're very nice and I think they're glad they're not getting yelled at.

NOW, as far as proselytizing goes, I don't witness to anyone, try to convert anyone, and I don't discuss religion in general and certainly not with strangers.
I hope God forgives me for this, but I don't care if you are saved or not.
I don't care at all. I don't care if you go to Hell, or Heaven, or just in the ground.
It's your business.

Bye-

 

Perhaps you need to rethink whether you're a Christian at all. Going to a liberal Lutheran Church I suppose could leave you with your current unfaithfulness and worldly view.

 

Really? Witnessing is great but there are nut jobs out there giving Churches a bad name. There is a liberal side to Christianity and a nutty side. I am on the side of the Bible (I don't follow man I follow Christ). What did I say that needs soap? they are words not curses. They are words of the common man that thew elitists have turned evil.

Churches that marry (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s (homos) are not full of my brothers and sisters. Churches and people that are so lacking in faith that they put up a bunch of lies and mislead their children are not my brothers and sisters.

Why would you need a creationist museum? There have never been any human remains found with dinosaurs. People and animals go to higher ground when there is a flood. These people claim that the shells on mountains are from the flood. That is bull because there are no modern animal bones up there and no human bones either.

There will be false prophets and it seems you are following them.

If you want to debate scripture with me we can do it. You will either find that I am not what you assume or you may have a change of heart.

It is about faith and mine is strong.

 

Perhaps I misjudged you. I didn't catch your drift so to speak. It just seemed you were judging Christians in general not specific. Hand over that bar of soap please.

 

Liberal? Politics is not discussed there, nor is a political agenda pursued. They are big into local charity....they run the county food bank.

You can just butt out of what I should believe, toothless. You don't get to judge me.
Run your own life.

 

Well, someone does not understand either the laws of averages or statistics. But a good emotional pot shot will suffice to back up the objective analysis of atheism.

Anything to disagree with religion, but then that is what this is all about. You don't need math to figure that out.

 

Agh yes, everyone who points out a flaw in analysis is not inciteful or astute, but a craven liar! Not sufficiently castigating in belying the disruption of the heinous door bell, nor apparently capable of explaining why a Christian ringing said bell is more encroaching then a police officer seeking information, we will call other people liars and demonize them for daring to challenge the God of atheism - the self.

If you do not want people to disagree with you, or need to demonize people all call it debate, well a debate forum is not for you.

I would suggest an atheist support group, where wveryne tells you anything you do in the name of atheism is wonderful - including sympathy for the agony of answering your own door.

BTW -I your question was answered, I would appreciate a modicum of integrity when rebutting. Not that I am the least bit surprised to yet another atheist resort to childish accusations instead.

 

It happens. Here is the soap

 

Yeah, you. If you think you can disprove what we say by your own experiences then there is no hope for you. You're either lying, ignorant or lack the intelligence needed. You choose which one.

I have the right to tell people to stop knocking on my doors and to get off my property. How self entitled are you when you think that I'm the problem if I want that?

 

You have a math and comprehension problem. You are also shooting your own argument in the foot.

Millions of people interact with missionaries every year. ONLY atheists seem to experience wide.spread.problems with missionaries invading their precious privacy.

As several posters have pointed out that smacks of bias and simple exaggeration if not simple rationalization to castigate.

Your only rebuttal is your 'personal' trial of adversity, which of course you are now.claiming is invalid argumentation?

Nice double standard.

 

Jesus (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Christ........... there's no getting through to you.

There is no double............ (*)(*)(*)(*) it, ignore list you go again.

 

Are you saying that you cannot get him to convert to Atheism? Are you admitting that he is too much for you to handle and that you are therefore throwing in the towel?

 

Agh, more objectivity from atheism.

Really, if you can't control your temper and need to lash out like a child when someone points out that having a person knock on your door is not violent trauma nor are your personal experimces invalidating the reality of mission work in which some of have actually participated in and go out of our way to prevent exactly hat you claim.

But of course your objectivity exploded in a bunch of curse words ...again, kinda proving what your critics have long stated: atheism is an emotional position.

As we see above, here to press and pester others about their faith, but unable to handle.qndiscussion about how best to treat a stranger at your door.without a violent temperamental explosion.

As I stated the missionary reveals far more about the home owner than anything else. And so it does.

 

Why are you so offended by people who don't want unwanted solicitors on their property?

 

Because he has a sense of entitlement and I'm being rude by not letting him preach to me in my own house.

 

But I thought that's what you paid your mortgage and property taxes for -- to give the religious nuts a platform to preach to you. [/sarcasm]

 

Instead, you go to a forum while in your house and invite all the Christians and other Theists into your house so that they can preach to you.... Now that makes a lot of sense.

 

No, the explicit right came from the fact that he purchased or otherwise obtained a computer with internet service and opened the portal called PF and invited any Christian or other Theist into the privacy of his home through the internet.

 

Just playing devils advocate here.

I would not want someone coming to my home and telling me I needed to accept Islam, I would not want someone coming to my home criticizing me for what they see as my faults, I would not want someone knocking on my door asking for a cigarette or light. What is the difference? There is not one in the eyes of many.

Now the devil is gone. I see nothing wrong with going to someones door and asking if they wish to discuss their salvation. If the home is not marked with a no trespassing sign or a no soliciting sign it is completely legal and ethical. If you tell them to go away and they do not then there is an issue.

Do I have issues with it? Yes I have a Church home and I don't need you to come knock on my door; but. Witnessing is part of the faith and I do it but not by going door to door. If I work with someone I may bring it up. If I am at your home or out in public I may mention it in a non invasive way.

I do understand the why and honestly it is not just about the person they visit it is about the person visiting you. They need to make an effort and if you tell them to go they have done the work they were charged with. If I put up a sign and they turn away they made an effort.

It is kind of like prayer. If I pray for you it is probably going to do you no good unless God has willed it. Prayer for another will cleanse my soul however so therefore I will pray for others because I was charged to do so.

Don't hate people for witnessing. If you ask them to go and they do not or they ignore your sign call the cops and press charges.

 

Is this supposed to pass for debate? Because it looks to me like atheists have tough time dealing with even minor adversity. Tell me, when you tell people that someone honked at you, to they expect you to start crying? Do you attend group therapy sessions to deal with the pain? Or do people just shrug?

Yet when a cop or lost delivery boy knock, this is somehow within the pain threshold ... a missionary knocks and suddenly the very constitution is at stake?

Of course, when someone reminds you that there are other people in this world, and that a modicum ofntolerance and patience are required ... well, even though we Christians have missionaries of other denominations knock on our doors, we just so not understand how painful it is to have some knock on our doors.

Tell me, why do atheists struggle with such simple interpersonal problem sets? Expect sympathy for their inability to handle common problems dealt with simply by ... well, everyone else?

 

No, the problem is that shutting your door or simply saying no thanks appears to the equivalent of crucifixion to you.