Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster

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  1. l4zarus

    l4zarus Member

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    I think you know everyone but a handful of conspiracy theorists think this is reasonable:

    The explanation was the plane came in was coming low, it banked at a 90 degree angle, allegedly from the people.. from the struggle in the cockpit... and the right wing hit the ground right there in the area where the impact is, it flipped the front end; the front third of the plane including the cockpit slammed in the ground off the wing... the front third broke off and flew up into the trees, there was a fireball behind it and the remaining two thirds went down...

    00:35-1:05 ​

    And go easy on the smilies; this forum has enough problems breaking.


    You didn't see the bold type in my post?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/223209-prove-flight-93-bunker-buster-15.html#post1060827605

    From comments:

    http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=nkYOk3zxf54

    Conspiracy nuts should find someone else to attack.

    The answer, as you knew, is conspiracy nuts. But if you want to get more specific, the conspiracy nuts promoting these videos of Wally are probably the culprits. A Youtube search of Wally Miller shows those to be:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/Terrorcell2 (first couple results)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/WelcomeToKilltown (fourth result)
    http://www.youtube.com/user/911veritas (next couple results)

    Those appear to be the conspiracy nuts attacking Wally Miller.
     
  2. Hannibal

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    Why should I? You will only turn around, claim there wasn't any evidence and when someone says yes there was, you will ask for the exact same link. AGAIN.

    Your posts are broken records. Nobody here is fooled by your antics.
     
  4. l4zarus

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    There's some freaking stuff about that character online. Did a google search like one comment suggested and saw lots of blogs about him. This seemed to be the most reasonable sounding one:

    http://killtownsecretwordpress.blogspot.com/

    But there's nothing on Wally Miller. A search of Wally Miller Killtown however shows another killtown blog and a page full of conspiracy websites.
    Wally Miller terrorcell2 brings up mostly Youtube results, and wally miller terrorcell2, same for Wally Miller 911veritas. Just to be thorough searched for Wally Miller welcometokilltown; mostly YouTube results, but the profile links to a Killtown blog so it's probably the same person?

    From the searches "Killtown" looks like the one who's written the most about Wally, since 2009 at least. That seems to confirm the opinions on this forum these so called "questions" surrounding Wally were something invented by a couple of conspiracy nuts.

    But why? It makes no sense.
     
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    You're trying to make sense out of an irrational person's actions.
     
  6. l4zarus

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    Ah, point. Well, it's like a puzzle...why do these people get stuck on something that has no basis in reality? Underneath it all one hopes to find something that makes relative sense to the irrational person. Otherwise all you're left with is they're crazy...
     
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    Well I like to hear it straight from the other skeptics here.

    Skeptics? Does the above sound like a "reasonable" explanation?

    Yes I did. You want me to blindly believe some anonymous people on youtube comments about what he said?

    Oh, those "probably are"? They "appear" to be?!

    [​IMG]

    Next time come back with some direct evidence instead of your foolish opinions and "ASSumptions."
     
  8. suede

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    Right, why should you. You have no credibility.
     
  9. suede

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    Yes, one must be crazy to think a 757 crashed like that and is mostly buried in the ground. So that begs the question, why do you think that?
     
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    Still waiting for someone to:

    Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster
     
  11. suede

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    Only thing I've seen proof of is a bunch a dirt coming out of the ground. :-D
     
  12. l4zarus

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    And yet you expect us to believe your anonymous person blindly. Irony much?

    You are the one who asked who it was
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/223209-prove-flight-93-bunker-buster-15.html#post1060830738
    even though you could read the bold "conspiracy nuts" just fine.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/223209-prove-flight-93-bunker-buster-15.html#post1060827605

    Don't know what you're laughing about...you appear to have bad reading comprehension skills.

    Hmmm...this sounds like something someone with a thin skin would report as an insult. Meh...the only relevant point is linking to the channels uploading videos encouraging people to attack Wally as the source of the attacks is perfectly reasonable, especially if only one of those channels has written the material these attacks are based on.
     
  13. l4zarus

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    I don't think I told you what I think; I said Wally's explanation sounds reasonable. But for the record I don't significantly disagree with it.

    One would be more crazy to believe the inventions of one or two internet trolls.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/223209-prove-flight-93-bunker-buster-16.html#post1060831433

    Why do you?
     
  14. suede

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    Who's my anonymous person?

    Funny you blindly believe an anonymous person's comment on a youtube video and have no direct evidence to back his claim up.

    Oh, so now it those channels aren't the source of the direct attacks, but source that laid the ground work for others to "attack" Miller?

    Let's see here...

    how to respond to that...

    oh yeah...

    [​IMG]


    Please come back with some DIRECT evidence Miller has been "attacked" by truthers or apologize for slanderous claims.
     
  15. suede

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    OK, what do you think then?

    I don't believe the internet trolls who claim most of 757 buried. Do you?
     
  16. l4zarus

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    What? I have no idea...that's what anonymous means. :???:


    Evidence? You mean the people uploading videos suggesting Wally Miller is in on a conspiracy don't count? If anyone's responsible, they are.


    I don't know what you're trying to say. Reword and/or edit?


    This statement is puerile and laughable. You seem to be taking this personally....
     
  17. l4zarus

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    Yes, "probably" and "appears". This is adult language of adults used when all the facts are not yet available, but enough of them are present for informed speculation.

    Only emotionally immature people feel comfortable speaking in absolutes all the time because they can't imagine they could ever be wrong.

    FYI
     
  18. suede

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    *sigh*

    Back on topic:

    Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster
     
  19. Hannibal

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    Evidence Summary: 10 Points

    1) The four hijackers purchased tickets under their own names and boarded the plane. One was randomly selected for and passed additional security screening. Ziad Jarrah was a licensed pilot and had recent training on professional large jet flight simulators. United flight 93 was scheduled to depart at 8:00 am, but left 42 minutes late due to airport traffic. Aboard were 33 passengers, 7 crew members, and 4 hijackers.

    2) Several passengers and crew called from the plane, spoke with loved ones, described the hijackers' attack, and related their plan to try to retake the plane so that it would not be used as a suicide weapon against a populated area. All but two of these calls were made using the plane's seatback Airfones.

    3) The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' attack and apparent murder of the pilots and a flight attendant. Air traffic controllers heard a radio transmission by a man with an Arabic accent, warning of a bomb on board. Passengers reported that one of the hijackers had what appeared to be a bomb strapped to him.

    4) After learning about the other attacks, passengers and cabin crew attempted to retake the cockpit but were apparently unable to gain entry. The sound of their attempts was recorded on the CVR. The CVR also recorded the hijackers' decision to end the flight, followed by repeated shouts of "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest.") until the plane crashed. Families of victims heard the CVR recording.

    5) Flight 93 was tracked by radar until it went down.

    6) Many people in Pennsylvania saw the Boeing 757, traveling at low altitude and high speed, roll to the right and plummet upside-down, nose first, towards the ground. Many people witnessed the subsequent enormous explosion and fireball. Val McClatchey photographed the mushroom cloud.

    7) Hundreds of first responders (mostly volunteer firefighters) and crime scene investigators were quickly on the scene. They saw human remains, aircraft wreckage, personal effects, jet fuel, etc.
    The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered and had usable data, all of which is consistent with the other evidence.

    8 The remains of every victim was positively identified. Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller personally collected many remains and made 12 identifications through fingerprints and dental records. Personal effects of most passengers and crew were recovered and returned to their families.

    9) Hijacker identification documents and personal effects were recovered, along with the remains of four people identified as the hijackers through the process of elimination.

    10) Nearly all of the aircraft was recovered by professional investigators and by civilians. The debris was returned to United Airlines after being examined for evidence of explosives use.

    At Shanksville, which was by far the smallest of the three 9/11 crash scenes, over 1,100 people from 74 agencies and organizations worked at the scene. Including civilian volunteers, many of whom joined an organized effort to collect aircraft parts, the number of crash scene workers reaches well over 1,500.

    On 9/11 alone, these included: • 8 Police Departments • 7 EMS Services • 8 Fire Departments • 10 Emergency Management Agencies • NTSB • ATF • FBI • CISM • Red Cross • United Airlines

    Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders

    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co, Shanksville, PA 15560.

    Somerset County Emergency Services 100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501

    Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management 12 Court House Square Greensburg, PA 15601

    Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg, PA 17101

    Coroner Wallace E. Miller
    555 Tayman Avenue
    Somerset, PA 15501
    814-445-6900

    http://www.somersetcountychamber.com/chamber/contacts.asp

    Direct sources. The best evidence.
     
  20. RtWngaFraud

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    They never answered and this was pointed out to you several times. When are you going to share your first hand knowledge of the situation, since you claim you were there? Direct evidence would be best. Thanks in advance for the direct answer.
     
  21. Hannibal

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    I never said I was there. (Why can't 'truthers' tell the truth?)

    Of the multiple sources listed, which ones did you attempt to contact?
     
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    Re-read the threads. I'm no longer chasing my tail with you. I'll just occasionally highlight your rhetoric, and move on.
     
  23. Hannibal

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    So your intent is simply to troll? Thanks for admitting it.

    You have never stated anywhere who you called.

    So you can't show proof of your claim, or remember who you called.

    Typical.
     
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    ....the wheels of the bus go round and round, round and round....

    It's just no fun anymore dude....your resources are more powerful than mine...I admit it. Carry on the "official" BS story. I'll just interject here and there. You own the masses. Congratulations.....public money well spent.
     
  25. Hannibal

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    Poor 'truthers', defeated by evidence once again.
     
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