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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    you cant even look at the color of molten material and tell us the temperature. please.
     
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    Not part of my job discription that I be able to tell, and not relevant any way.

    Steel loses its rigidity well below the temperatures at which it would glow that color.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh because it proves you are not qualified to fully grasp the whole of the evidence.
     
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    I do know thsat office fires can excede 1000F, especially if they are unfought. We know that this was the case at WTC because the primer was burnt off much of the steel from the fire zones. That means that the steel was exposed to sufficient heat to cause it to weaken. You lack understanding here.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    unfortunately for you I understand considerably more than you do about it, just because they can does not mean they did, they can also burn as cool as 400f so so prove it was 1000 or more
     
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    The paint was burned off of core columns on the impactd floors.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    it got a lot hotter than 1000f more like a 1000c

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    Then why are you arguing about the possibility of heat-weakening?

    I stated 1000F because that is about the most the building could stand without some loss of structural integrity.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    thats not heat weakening
     
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    As a veteran fire fighter, I cannot see any sign that it is anything other than the reult of exposure to a Class A fire. What do you, from your uninformed position, see here?
     
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    I see koko is back to shouting 'nuh-UH!' at every point brought up

    But then to koko,electricity isn't a form of energy..
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    good then you will have no problem showing us other 1/2 thick columns from other buildings that have been crystalized to slag
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh in fact they were in such a hurry to hit the ground they jumped at 70 mph

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    wonder why the rush. probably because there were no explosives
     
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    That does not even make sense as written. "Crystalized to slag?" WTF?

    It shows advanced rusting from being heated in a moist environment.
     
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    no it does not, even fema didnt know what it was, wtg! more bs from unqualified troughers.
     
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    It is clear to anyone with any experience that it is not indicative of any kind of demolition charges.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    of course not explosives would never blow someones ass out a window. good one!
     
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    That object did not look like a body to me. Can you freeze that image so that we can actually look at it?
     
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    here is another one, you can see him coming out with explosive debris of the squib and he looks like he is trying to do his best to stop a frieght train

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    GIFs are useless unless you can freeze them at one frame. I still do not see enough details to see a body in that object. It is also not likely that anyone would be standing that close to a vent and come out in one piece. There would have been all manner of ductwork that would have to be blown out and we see no trace of that.

    Also note that the dust or steam or whatever is most dense about in the middle of the process. This is inconsistant with an HE detonation. They start at full strength and thin out quickly over distance.
     
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    whos saying its HE except you? you can see the squib and debris fly out then the guy right behind it. what can I tell ya, just gonna have to get a bit better at this investigation stuff LOL
     
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    Prove that's a 'guy' or even a human.
     
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    Ermmm...Dude?

    You are claiming explosive demolitions. So, by saying that you are not saying that this was the result of explosive detonations, you are arguing against your own point.
     
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    nice two shoe, I said HE, LOL
     

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