Putin Tells Ukrainian Military To Take Power

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  1. The Scotsman

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    No indeed they don't and neither do they, however, not being pro-whatever does not necessarily have to translate to the use of deadly land-grabs in order to fulfill a megalomaniacal vision of the past. Putin probably has a tenuous grip on reality and, indeed, regards himself as a legend in his own lunchtime; and since we're talking in hypotheticals new blood brings new opportunities - perhaps both diplomatic, militarily and economic.
    So, maybe like in the footsteps of the Praetorians of old..... phut.....phut.....
     
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    This message from Putin sounded rediculous. One day he said that the Ukranian army, that resisted to Russian army consisted of drug addicts and neo Nazis. Next day he calls for negotiation with this army and ask them to take the power in their hands.
     
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    Can one not negotiate with drug addicts and neo Nazis ? Drug addicts should be easy .. give us the country .. and will give you your next hit :)
     
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    friendly fire. Destroyed trucks "Bogdan (MAZ) 63172" with ammunition.

    Judging by the numbers of the car (A3), they belonged to the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the northern regional department, with headquarters in Zhytomyr.

    P.S - Today, Ukrainian sources spread a fake about the defeat of the Rosguard column in the Kyiv region.
    Immediately on several videos, their authors went and mocked the dead fighters.

    It turned out that the column belongs to the National Guard of Ukraine, and the cars in the video are MAZs-Bogdan. You can also see the number "A3", which indicates belonging to the northern regional administration with headquarters in Zhytomyr. Therefore, all those killed are fighters of the NGU of Ukraine.
    Who and how destroyed the column is unknown.
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    Except who trusts anything posted, or put out, by Russian sources, anymore?
     
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    You have the opportunity to compare - they will show this according to your sources. I assure you, for you the information is very carefully censored, and they call it "freedom of speech" ;-)

    In general, what difference does it make on which domain the video is posted? You can also upload it to YouTube - but I'm too lazy. I would also understand if you had complaints about the video itself. For example said, that these are army theater actors :)

    Here's some more material. Let's ask our Ukrainian-speaking comrades what this paper is about. And then we will discuss: true or fake.
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    I think it's true. VERY well consistent with the decision to distribute military weapons to the inhabitants of the city. Rrobbery and lmarauding has already begun on this occasion.
     
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    Maybe you meant the large print to be ironic instead of funny?? Funny means laughable and ironic means proclaiming a double standard...For example, Zelensky is using double standards when he advocates for the killing of people in the 2 breakaway provinces to the east of Ukraine because the people in the breakaway provinces 'don't act Ukranian' and then the irony of Zelensky crying that Chechens ('who don't act Ukranian') are out to kill Zelensky because he does act Ukranian.
     
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    Just surmising that Putin meant the Neo-Nazi and drug addict comment was intended for Ukranian higher-up military leadership and not the rank-and-file army of the Ukraine.:roll:
     
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  9. Jeannette

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    The problem could have been resolved without a war. The Europeans could have investigated the atrocities that have been going on for eight years against the Russians in Ukraine but they didn't.

    They could have looked at Russia's legitimate security concerns and started talks about a reduction in arms and lessening the threats to Russia, but they didn't.

    They could have pressured Zalensky to start talks with Donetsk and Lugansk as specified in the Minsk agreement, but they didn't.

    A few months ago, before all the propaganda started about Russia going to invade Ukraine, some neo cons wrote articles on the benefits of a war between Ukraine and Russia. Putin was well aware of it he's not a stupid man. He knew that they have been trying to entangle Russia into a war in Ukraine since 2014, so he bent over backwards to avoid it.

    But when the genocidal attacks on the civilians in Donetsk and Lugansk intensified and they began to condemn Russia's legitimate security concerns and started their usual 'blah, blah' blah', he was left with no choice and gave the neo cons exactly what they always wanted, a war with Ukraine.




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    The only atrocities are those committed by Russia's dishonest little dictator as a pretext for invading Ukraine and trying to undo the Euromaidan revolution to keep Ukraine under his yoke.

    At this rate, the Russian military will be taking control in Moscow long before Ukraine's military takes control in Kyiv.
     
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    Oh, wow!
    You are starting to see bits and pieces of the truth!

    Congratulations, soon your friends will call you a Bandera follower. :lol:
     
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  12. Jeannette

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    The large print has nothing to do with me. My computer has its own mind, and it's driving me crazy.

    The higher ups in Ukraine are the mafia families with their lobbyists in Washington. They are the payroll of many of the neo Nazi armies such as Avov and Aidar and they use those armies to suppress the Russian and Ukrainian population so they can remain in power. They might also be payrolling the neo Nazi Ukrainian National guards and the Right Sector, but I don't know?

    The average Ukrainian has nothing to do with them. Some might prefer the EU - especially in the West where there is an immense cultural difference from the Ukrainians in the East and South who are predominantly Russian.

    What worries Putin is that Zalensky seems to be getting his orders from Washington and wants to prolong the war. This might throw Ukraine into a civil war - which would be exactly what the neo cons want. It would account for why they keep sending Ukraine arms.
     
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    It is the average Ukrainian that has decide to pick up rifles and fight the invaders. Just because there may be some neo nazis in the ranks, that does not mean the vast majority are. You could say the same thing of every political rally here in the US. There are always some neo nazis on the right or some city burning morons on the left, but the vast majority are there just doing what they believe in.
     
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    How about the island in the Black Sea? Ukraine is saying that all the Ukrainians died as heroes to defend it, when they handed it to the Russians.
     
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    And you really believe that they want a regime that was put in by our State Department and suppresses them? You gotta be kidding?
     
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    I think what worries Putin is that his time lines seem to have have been shot to shyte. There is no way this thing was supposed to be strung out over days and days with no significant goals having been achieved..I think your generals have phucked up? Sold Putin what he wanted to hear rather than the reality? Anyway...who gives a crap what Putin is scared of.

    I think your consistent pushing of the "nazi" is a little lazy. Are you allowed to alter the nuance or is it something you've been told to push out onto message boards? It would be interesting to know who it's designed for though, a purely American audience or Europeans or is it just a kind of catch all? Do you guys have different nuances for different message boards?
     
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    the USA did not invade them. I bet at this point the vast majority would definitely vote for the western backed candidates over a government that would invade them and force regime change at gunpoint.
     
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    This delusion is amusing. :chew:
     
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    Exactly. This is how Russia fights a war. They churn out misinformation and deny every evil thing they do. It is pure evil what they do.
     
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    The important thing is that their tactic has been overplayed. Putin apparently believed that he could go endlessly, to this well, and that the rest of the world, would never catch on.

    What seems a bit creepy to me, is all the ostensibly "regular" people, who mimic the behavior, on the part of Russia.
    Is it related to "Stockholm Syndrome?"


    For their sakes, I guess I should hope they're getting paid; but when you get that comfortable, in a web of lies, it can be easy to forget where to climb out. Something of just that nature, may be affecting Putin, right now.
     
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    The Reptilians among us.
     
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    Thank you for the video. I had seen quite a few videos of the atrocities, but I didn't know what had preceded the burning of the protesters. What I do know is that the mega criminal Ihor Kolomoisky bankrolled it and that he was wanted in Russia for bombing Slaviansk with White Phosphorus. He's also a suspect in the shoot down of the Maylasian airliner.

    Anyway a Russian did post a telephone call of Kolomoisky telling someone later on to kill the survivors in the hospitals.

    No pressure on Ukraine by the US to bring them to trial even though Russia has so much visual proof. When Trump's lawyer Guiliani, who as District Attorney in New York City destroyed the Italian mafia and cleaned up the city went to investigate the criminals in Ukraine, the liberal medias ripped him to pieces.


    So you believe that the neo Nazis from Galicia in Western Ukraine have the right to kill off and ethnically cleanse the Russians in the Donbass like their parents did the Poles - even though it has been their ancestral lands for thousands of years?

    Well I guess as long as it's politically expedient to Washington it doesn't matter, since they are Russian 'untermenchens' - unlike the nationalists of Western Ukraine. After all, they are a part of our
    superior western culture - something Woogs shows brilliantly in the video he posted.

    https://vk.com/video-27474285_456280901
     
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    You are SO deluded. Ukraine's president is from the east and his first language is Russian.
     

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