Putin Tells Ukrainian Military To Take Power

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  1. Woogs

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    Fog of war is thick so much cant be confirmed. We do know that Ukraine has been handing out guns to civilians and urging them to use Molotov cocktails. Already one documented case of using these weapons on Ukranian soldiers.

    Unconfirmed is they are handing out grenade launchers. Also that they are releasing criminals to fight against Russians. That could only end badly. Hello .... they are criminals!

    Nothing surprises me, though, after the last 8 years.
     
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    Yeah, so much of that period has been scrubbed from the internet. You have been here from the beginning, though, like I have, and seen it happen in real time. So many Johnny come latelys posting that know nothing of these events. And then there are those that know better and have chosen their side.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This the latest news in case you're interested. The Russians had stopped the attacks because Zalensky called for peace, but he reneged, I guess after Biden and Stotlenberg said they would send arms.

    Russian jets are now attacking arms shipments from Poland near Lviv, but the major battle is focusing on Mariopol. The Russians together with the Donetsk army is encircling the city to entrap the Ukrainian army - which consists mainly of the neo Nazi battalions Azov and Aider.

    I feel bad for the civilians trapped there. If it was the regular Ukrainian army they would just surrender and be sent home - as many have. They are hard line Nazis though, so it's a life and death battle.


    When the wars over, there's going to be a lot of political problems because I believe Mariopol, Odessa and Kharkov are part of Lugansk and Donetsk. Losing Odessa and Mariopol means that Ukraine will become completely landlocked and Russia will the two Republics will have almost complete control of the Black Sea.

    Zalensky in the mean time, said that Erdogan will block the Russian ships at the straits, but that remains to be seen. Erdogan's not that stupid. He's probably watching to see how events turn out.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, I saw that before. Also saw a pic of Ukie artillery placed in the courtyard of an apartment building.

    ****ing animals! And yet people all over have been so gaslit that "stand with Ukraine" has become a mantra. Disgusting!

     
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    yeah okay I guess you haven't figured it out yet....look it may assist you to know I'm not an American...the clue is in the name!
    So that hopefully understood ....you see deflecting the narrative is one thing and it does take a bit of skill and cunning. Unfortunately, as I implied earlier your dialogue is hackneyed and trite and needs targeted towards the right audience. The practical application of the useful idiot is to snap at the hook offered which means accepting the premise of your crap irrespective of the underlying intent. I don't. So go and peddle your idiotic crap to others and please....be a little bit more interesting next time.....and remember the "Nazi" card only works on some people.

    Jeezuz...how many of you had a hand in that post.....FFS get a grip on your targets.
     
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    oh how sweet of you to pass on those sentiments....lets assume the recipients of such tears feel like shoving them up your collective bungholes....

    Anyway....if everything was so oojah-cum-spiff with your Russian colleagues then I'm wondering why the chaps haven't actually achieved anything significant? All their objectives so far have gone up the spout and unfortunately it seems there are a tad more casualties that were expected. Which is a damned shame as its awful to lose young lives in such a way and I'm sure your Putin lad couldn't give a rats arse about them or their families.. Military goals aside, the political goals are down the crapper as well - we've gone from "if anyone get in my way I'll throw a real tantrum!!" to made phone calls to Erdogan pleading for him to broker a way out of the crap Putin's now up to his neck in.

    ...sorry...my apologies for the interruption.....back to your plat du-jour of inter-galactic Nazis or whatever bollox it was you blokes are were peddling......toodles
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Scotsman - I find your posts obnoxious as well as incomprehensible, so you're not worth my bother. I'm putting you on ignore.
     
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    You can't hide from the truth forever, Jenny.
     
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    .....:roflol::roflol:......ditto.......

    But before you ignore me.....please..... can you just ask the guys at the Air Ministry about the Su-35 Flanker E tail code RT-95867 (her nose code is Red 25) how's she doing? She's kind of a friend of mine and I wouldn't want her damaged....:(.....

    If you could just let me know and then put me on "ignore".....Thanks....sorry to be nasty to you.....
     
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    What's that about? Is that one of the planes downed by the Ukrainians or one that the Russians accidentally shot down themselves?
     
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    Jeanette, the large print came from me. I made part of your post I quoted large to emphasize my response to that targeted large-printed part of your post which I made extra large. Sorry for your inconvenience..

    Thanks for all that other information about Ukraine that an American like myself cannot receive since Americans get almost exclusively pro-Ukranian, er, anti-Russian propaganda or information.
     
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    Hi Mate, unfortunately nothing so dramatic. She's just an old friend...I don't think she's flying anymore anyway.
     
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    Hi all! I'm from Russia! I haven’t read the entire forum, and I don’t want to, many write outright nonsense. I want to appeal only to adequate people who understand the situation at least a little. I saw a lot of lies on your TV channels... So. Russia is not the aggressor. We are not going to seize Ukraine and annex it to ourselves (with the possible exception of some regions, if they themselves want this, like Crimea once did). Ukrainian Nazis are shooting at civilians. Normal Ukrainian military surrender, after signing the documents they are taken home to their families! Zelensky is not negotiating! Whatever sanctions are introduced and whatever they do, we have long been immune from them, it will only be worse for those countries that impose them! NATO and the Nazis themselves started all this, stop killing our history, shoot our children in the Donbass! There is no way back! We are tired of being patient! Until we clear the Ukraine of the Nazis, we will not leave! And now you can throw mud at me, etc. Peace and goodness to all! *I am writing through an online translator, so I'm sorry if some phrases are incomprehensible or misspelled.
     
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    You can ask me questions about those news to which you do not have access. I will answer honestly (but only to normal polite questions. Crazy zombies who hate Russians, pass by). I constantly follow the situation on TV, in Ukrainian and Russian social networks, call up relatives who live in Ukraine (in Lugansk, Kharkov, Odessa).
     
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    They say that everyone surrendered happily and was saved.

    Don't the freest media in the West show this?
     
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    It’s legal to kill Russian troops in Ukraine and civilians have arms.
    They are being shot at by everyone - from pensioners to ex cons.

    By the way, Ukrainians killed off all Chechens that Pootin sent. Kadyrov confirmed. :smoking:
     
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    This event alone shows the essence of the Ukrainian authorities! Imagine how the relatives felt when they were informed about the death of their sons and husbands! And after some time they called their relatives alive and said that the Russians were taking them home! So even Ukrainian boats fired at the ship with their own guys on the way home! These are real bastards, Nazis, fu!
     
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    Uh oh. You better step up your efforts, O poster of Kremlin propaganda. Your fellow Russians aren't buying it:

    What the Russian media is saying about the war in Ukraine

    WASHINGTON — As the invasion of Ukraine continued on Friday morning, including near the capital city, Kyiv, one of Russia’s leading television stations aired a history lesson on an 18th century battle between German and Russian forces in Poland.

    It was the kind of nationalistic propaganda typical of media coverage in a nation where the Kremlin exercises near-universal control. That control is evident in print, radio and television. However, it also appears to be slipping, which could present Russian President Vladimir Putin with a fresh challenge as he faces domestic and international opprobrium for his attack on Ukraine.

    “The Kremlin is clearly grappling with ways to keep the cracks in that dam from forming,” said Gavin Wilde, an expert on Russia who formerly served on the National Security Council. Those cracks have come mostly in the form of internet outlets. "China was able to seal off its so-called sovereign information space in a way that Russia simply failed to do.”

    ... https://news.yahoo.com/what-the-russian-media-is-saying-about-the-war-in-ukraine-100046012.html

    The protests are growing larger and louder already. Can you hear them from your office yet? Maybe even from your cheloveynik?
     
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    I'm not bothered by the closure of a variety show that I don't even watch. But the disinformation about the cold-bloodedly destroyed border guards of the island worries me.
     
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    This is nonsense . Are you really that stupid?‍♀️
     
  23. Durandal

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    Welcome to a place where free speech is permitted. I hope that you enjoy the taste of freedom and will come to understand and accept what so many others already know about Putler's war of aggression under false pretenses.

    He has launched a Nazi war of aggression against your brothers and sisters in Ukraine in a bid to retake control of the country. He has been lying to you and anyone else who would listen for many years now. He is sending young men into a meat grinder of angry, armed, patriotic, downright zealous defenders of their homeland in a badly misguided effort to conquer them. Since you understand Russian, I would like to share this with you and ask you to think about how it might apply to current events:



    Враг уже еще у ворот, но на этот раз враг - фашисты из России.
     
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    Nothing worries you, actually. You display a downright psychopathic disregard for human suffering.
     
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    It is better for you to understand that soon you will know what the real truth is! There is very little left! Even some Ukrainians are already starting to get it and they are thanking Putin! So it’s better to sit quietly and observe the situation in silence, so that later you won’t be ashamed of your statements!
     

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