Race Baiter John Lewis Kicks the Bucket at 80

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  1. NightOwl

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    This is the epitome of racist thinking. Its like saying black people are less successful because they are born inherently less intelligent and lazy.
     
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    I bet he knew which party was becoming the wrong side.

    Look today, tRUMP and his followers want to keep statues of the racists who went to war to own black people standing to be idolized. And that same group wants to keep flying the flat that represented the traitor states.

    He knew the political winds that were blowing and who were becoming the racists of the day.
     
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    That kind of obvious late election cycle slander only serves to further discredit Trump's critics.

    The DP remains the party of systemic institutional racism. Destroying the statues is just historical revisionism designed to hide the evidence of DP racist crimes.

    Much of what passes for a "progressive" movement is a fraud. A fraud that is finally being exposed for all to see.

    ""It’s far worse than I thought. In addition to the many links between the family that owns the New York Times and the Civil War’s Confederacy, new evidence shows that members of the extended family were slaveholders.

    Last Sunday, I recounted that Bertha Levy Ochs, the mother of Times patriarch Adolph S. Ochs, supported the South and slavery. She was caught smuggling medicine to Confederates in a baby carriage and her brother Oscar joined the rebel army.

    I have since learned that, according to a family history, Oscar Levy fought alongside two Mississippi cousins, meaning at least three members of Bertha’s family fought for secession."
    THE NEW YORK POST, The family that owns the New York Times were slaveholders: Goodwin, By Michael Goodwin July 18, 2020.
    https://nypost.com/2020/07/18/the-family-that-owns-the-new-york-times-were-slaveholders-goodwin/
     
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    No. It's like saying White privilege is real and the evidence of it is all around us. There are many Black people who are successful in spite of White privilege. But, make no mistake, the inherent advantages for White folks are still there.
     
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    :bored::bored::bored: If only my white privilege taught me how to play a violin, I'd be playing a tune for you right now.

    Thanks for black-splaining my privilege.

    Could you please list all my inherent advantages that magically fell into my lap as a result of my skin color?

    I have to go do some work now.....if only my privilege let me sit on my ass, collect welfare and bitch and complain about reparations...
     
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    Black Americans have been the primary targets of systemic institutional racism, but over time the extremely destructive racist institutions like our urban school systems have netted other poor and working class Americans, including white Americans and left them unprepared to achieve their life goals. Of course the wealthy, regardless of color, are able to avoid bad schools.

    This kind of system failure has been bad enough to occasionally jolt the MSM hard enough to actually cover the story.

    CBS NEWS, ”Officials: 80 Percent Of Recent NYC High School Graduates Cannot Read" CBS, 3/7/13.
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03...recent-nyc-high-school-graduates-cannot-read/

    CBS was attacked for this report because it is not clear that 80% cannot read at all. They just cannot read well enough to attend a community college.
     
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    Systemic racism (sic.) You really have to love those emotion laden, Pavlovian conditioned buzz words. They don't mean much and they are clearly a deflection in order to avoid harsh realities.
     
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    Lewis was one of THE most dishonest politicians in Congress. Take that from someone who actually interacted on radio talk shows a few times with him.
     
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    Much of what passed as a "progressive" movement in America has always been wedded to systemic institutional racism.
    This has been well documented.

    "Revelations of sterilization abuse during that time expose the complicity of the federal government. At first the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, claimed that approximately 16,000 women and 8000 men had been sterilized in 1972 under the auspices of federal programs. Later however these figures underwent a drastic revision. Carl Schultz, Director of HEW's population affairs office, estimated that between 100,000 and 200,000 sterilization had actually been funded that year by the federal government. During Hitler's Germany, incidentally, 250,000 sterilizations were carried out under the Nazi Hereditary Health Law. Is it possible that the record of the Nazis, throughout the years of their reign, may have been almost equaled by US government funded sterilizations in the space a single year?"
    WOMEN RACE AND POWER, Angela Y. Davis, Random House, NY, 1980. p. 218.
     
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    Why?

    Ka-ching!
     
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    The number of succesful blacks disproves the effort you're making here. Being born black is not automatically a sign of discrimination or privilege. Like any race, get off the couch or be considered marginal.
     
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    May I please speak to the manager of systemic racism? The left keeps saying you exist. I want proof.
     
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    Professional politicians tend to be very corrupt. Power corrupts. The fish rots from the head:

    "Reid's nickname as chairman of the [gaming] commission was "Mr. Cleanface". Ironically, the moniker came from Tony Agosto, a Kansas City mobster involved in the Chicago Outfit's operations in Vegas. Agosto, who was the entertainment director of the Tropicana Hotel and Casino, had been monitored by the FBI and had once, in a visit with the Kansas City my boss Nick Civella, bragged that "Mr. Clean Face" was on the mob payroll. Agosto's testimony led to the conviction of several mob bosses from the Midwest. And the FBI believed that "Mr. Cleanface was Reid. Agosto claimed that he channeled $10,000 a week to Reid through attorney J Brown, "an old and dear friend" as Reid described him."
    EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, BuyVotes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013, pp. 153, 154.

    If Reid is "Mr. Clean Face", how was Lewis exceptionally corrupt?
     
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    Your opinion in duly documented with your post. I view him as neither a villain nor an exceptional hero. He was one of the group that did put their lives and bodies on the line during the civil rights struggle.

    i do not know nor will we ever know what your exact arguments are with him but as i said your opinion is duly noted. I give you credit that in this post you have not spew partisan sludge. That is commendable.
     
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    I disagree.
    No history is going to be rewritten.

    I don't even know how anyone could think such a thing.
    The history books have been writtten on the civil war for 150 yrs.

    tRUMP is showing he is the fraud. That's why he is in the tank. An extremely incompetent leader. Actually, leader doesn't even belong attached to him. Divider is more appropriate.
     
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    Throughout this country’s history, the hallmarks of American democracy – opportunity, freedom, and prosperity – have been largely reserved for white people through the intentional exclusion and oppression of people of color. The deep racial and ethnic inequities that exist today are a direct result of structural racism: the historical and contemporary policies, practices, and norms that create and maintain white supremacy
    https://www.urban.org/features/structural-racism-america

    What is systemic racism?
    Johnson defined systemic racism, also called structural racism or institutional racism, as "systems and structures that have procedures or processes that disadvantages African Americans."

    Glenn Harris, president of Race Forward and publisher of Colorlines, defined it as "the complex interaction of culture, policy and institutions that holds in place the outcomes we see in our lives."
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/systemic-racism-what-does-mean/5343549002/

    Slavery was America’s “original sin.” It was not solved by the framers of the U.S. Constitution, nor was it resolved by the horrendous conflict that was of the American Civil War. It simply changed its odious form and continued the generational enslavement of an entire strata of American society. In turn, the Civil Rights Movement struck a mighty blow against racism in America, and our souls soared when Dr. King told us he had a dream. But we were and still are far from the “promised land.” And even when America rose up to elect its first Black President, Barack Obama, we may indeed have lost ground as a collective nation along the way.
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2020/06/11/systemic-racism-and-america-today/

    Anyone who is actually interested can easily find out what systemic racism is.
     
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    Technical point, historians have what's called the Standard Interpretation (SI).

    You might want to take a look at it.
     
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    Nationwide protests in recent weeks have rekindled a roaring public discourse about racial inequality in America.

    George Floyd's death in police custody on May 25 let loose a groundswell of public rage about the way Black Americans are policed. But it also sparked a deeper conversation about the way they experience all aspects of modern life, whether it's underrepresentation in college attainment rates, or over-representation in COVID-19 hospitalizations.

    Extensive academic research and data collected by the federal government and researchers has documented numerous ways that Black Americans experience life in the United States differently from their white counterparts.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-systemic-racism-in-charts-graphs-data-2020-6

    ...
    There’s a straight line between these policies and the state of black America today. The lack of Social Security kept black Americans toiling in old age or forced them to the streets. The obstruction of black homeownership, among other factors, has left African Americans poorer and more economically vulnerable, with the average black household worth $17,000 in 2016 while the average white household was worth 10 times that. “Tough on crime” sentencing policies have ballooned the black prison population, torn apart families and left millions of children to grow up in single-parent homes.
    ...
    https://time.com/5851855/systemic-racism-america/

    Anyone who is actually interested can easily find out what systemic racism is.
     
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    The statues are an important evidence of exactly what the post Reconstruction Jim Crow South really stood for from Reconstruction through the "progressive" era. Destroying them is just DP historical revisionism.

    The DP remains the party of dangerous racist hate in America. It should not be allowed to destroy the proof.

    "You may wonder why all of the atrocities that have been committed in Africa and in Hungary and in Asia, and in Latin America are brought before the UN, and the Negro problem is never brought before the UN. This is part of the conspiracy. This old, tricky blue eyed liberal who is supposed to be your and my friend, supposed to be in our corner, supposed to be subsidizing our struggle, and supposed to be acting in the capacity of an adviser, never tells you anything about human rights. They keep you wrapped up in civil rights. And you spend so much time barking up the civil-rights tree, you don’t even know there’s a human-rights tree on the same floor."
    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Malcolm_X
     
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    Tell me about it.
    What is the "Standard interpretation" of the Calhoun statue in Charleston?
     
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    They are there to idolize traitors.

    “Eventually they started to build [Confederate] monuments,” he says. “The vast majority of them were built between the 1890s and 1950s, which matches up exactly with the era of Jim Crow segregation.”
    https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments

    They keep racism alive.
     
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    Would you shut down Planned Parenthood if you could be the leader of America for a day?
     
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    Slobbering John was a liar; he was the Klan with a tan. He did not seek equality, but the subtle genocide of all whites.
     
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    What did John Lewis ever do or say to lead you to that conclusion?
     
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    Yes, they were erected by DP governments after Reconstruction to idolize, treason, racism and slavery.
    Large bronze plaques should be added to the base of the statues describing in detail the circumstances that led to the erection of all of these monuments.
    TREASON, RACISM AND SLAVERY should be easy for even passing motorists to read.

    The monuments do not keep racism alive. The Democratic Party keeps racism alive.
    Removing the statues is an effort to conceal the history and inherent nature of the DP.
     

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