Red states/areas getting more Covid-19 deaths than blue states/areas

Bingo. There's the rub, right there.

This has only been a problem for people who have made this a political issue (it never was, it never really will be), instead of a medical issue, which is exactly what it is.

And the history of this is clear as glass: a segment of the population is being bombarded by anti-vaxx propaganda and not really thinking for itself at all.

It's really quite sad.

 

It's a mistake and arrogant to think that people aren't thinking for themselves because they disagree with you. Nobody has mandated that we can't get vaccinated, mandates are coming from those who say we must get the shot. We have people here advocating doing research and relying on that to make a choice but by all means, don't pay any attention to them folks over there. I would think that legitimate research would look at both arguments.

 

Yet another dodge. All you have to say is, "Yes, if Trump were re-elected and was president and Trump, Birx and Jerome Adams said we should get the vaccine then I would get it". Can you say that? If you know how to copy and paste you can just do that without having to type much.

 

That is exactly what they said. They encouraged Americans not to get the vaccine if Trump said we should get it and now they chastise Trump because they think he should have been more forceful in telling Americans they should get vaccinated.

 

Nope, most Americans want conservatives who value freedom rather than democrats who value tyranny.

 

if Trump had won, and the vaccine was approved, I would wait a couple of months, then take it if no one was having issues, same as I did under Biden

 

when is the last time a republican President won the popular vote?

 

When is the last time the popular vote mattered?

 

Just out of curiosity, why would you wait a couple of months, even under Biden? I mean you guys keep on harping about trusting the science. Once the vaccine was approved, it had already been tested by science and approved by both the FDA and the CDC. So, since the science is already there, the same science you guys always scream about, what would be the purpose of waiting a couple of months? That's like an admission that you really don't trust the science after all, isn't it?

 

2016, which is the last time that a free, fair, and valid election for President was held.

 

when one claims "most Americans want"

 

to make double sure it was safe, regardless who was in power

 

Truth is it has never mattered nor should it, even when some people use exaggerations in their arguments.

 

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016

the big lie is just that... a big lie... Trump lost in 2020

 

it matters, it shows who most Americans wanted for their President

but it does not affect the outcome as seen in 2016

 

If you have a family with 5 kids the kids may all want to go to disneyland but the adults want to go to the mountains the majority isn't likely to win but most members agree on disneyland.

 

No, he didn't. He won it 304-227.

There was no valid election held in 2020... there was no winner or loser... only an installation of a Satanic regime.

 

I thought you knew what the popular vote was, sorry, my mistake

 

There is no popular vote for President

 

there is a popular vote, it just doesn't decide our Presidents

 

No, that's for homecoming king and queen. Your State and local officials as well as your legislators are elected by what you call popular vote. The President is elected by the States because that's his job, he wins the popular vote of the States.

 

Lol. So, you DON’T trust the science. You only trust your own opinion but you don’t think others should trust their own opinion.

 

never said they should not... I am pro-choice... how about you?

you asked what I would do if Trump had won, I told you, same as I did when Biden won

 

What you said is that even with Biden winning, that when experts and the science said the vaccine was safe, you would not believe the experts and the science and would wait a couple of months to see for yourself, even though the science and the experts had said that it was safe. In other words, you wouldn't trust the science or the experts until you saw for yourself and yet you would not allow others to wait and make their own choices.