Religious Rationality

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  1. tomteapack

    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    I have read the bible, qur'an, several vedas and many historical works by christian apologists. I do NOT find a need when giving my opinion to use nonsense juxtapositions of words that have meaning only withing certain specific contexts. I speak simply and with an attempt to make myself understood, not to make my self seem to be educated.

    Like I said, lose the doublespeak and make yourself understood.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Like all humans and most higher animals I have a will, I can and do make choices. The concept of FREE WILL is religious nonsense which relates to a non-existent, all-knowing god. It is a foolish religious concept which has no application in reality, just like most religious concepts.
     
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    I've seen no evidence of that and it wouldn't interest me either way. The thread is about religious rationality and clearly you've read nothing on the subject. This ensures that you cannot present any relevant rebuke, relying instead on low brow dodging. Now if there's anything you need explaining I'll oblige. No problem with helping folk!
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Like I said, the NORMAL way for 90% of humans to think is irrational, emotional, stupid and foolish. That is the NORMAL way for humans.
    Rational, logical and intelligent thinking by far the exception in humanity. There for, Rational thinking is NOT the norm, or normal, it is ABNORMAL.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Basic error. Emotional behaviour, for example, can be easily embedded within a model based on rationality. One can just refer to inconsistencies in preferences
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    I have read and studied many religions and have NO need to read others opinions to state a simple fact, that religions are Irrational, superstitious and foolish.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Foot stamping won't make your stance look more appealing. If religion was "irrational, superstitious and foolish" you'd be able to refer me to convincing empirical support for the secularisation thesis
     
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    Tell that to the prosecutors in these actions that have been taken....
    http://www.ajc.com/news/dekalb/da-paper-terrorists-stealing-595202.html
    This article even alludes to the use of violence by those who prefer the methods of paper-terrorism.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Facts of the Irrational, Superstitious and Foolishness of Religion:
    The Old testament of the Bible
    The new testament of the Bible
    The Qur'an
    The Vedas
    ETC
     
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    Given you haven't got a watertight secularisation thesis, you haven't got a leg to stand on
     
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    Religion.The irrational person's intellectual yardstick. You ucan't get more irrational than that!
     
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    Here's is a sample of irational religious thoughts:

    - The Virgin Mary;

    - Mortal Sin;

    - The Resurrecion;

    - the 72 virgins so beloved by those Muslims willing and striving to commit suicide;

    - prayer three (or is it four?) times a day by our Muslim brethren;

    - angels in heaven;

    Need I recount anymore!
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    We may not understand how beliefs are generated. We may also find them quite inconsistent with our understanding of reality. However, that cannot be used to argue irrationality. It can instead be used to understand how investments in after-life utility are consistent with rational choice theory
     
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    Religion represents the world of emotion. As such, it will never cease to exist. In my experience, when emotion and logic conflict, emotion wins.
     
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    All consumptions and investments have aspects of emotion (e.g. The risk loving investor prepared to take a lower expected result in return for the pleasure of gambling). There's no such 'emotion versus logic' simple breakdown
     

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