Republicans only: who could beat Obama?

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Who could defeat Obama in the 2012 election?

  1. Mitt Romney

    31.9%
  2. Newt Gingrich

    26.1%
  3. Ron Paul

    56.5%
  4. Jon Huntsman

    15.9%
  5. Rick Perry

    10.1%
  6. Michele Bachmann

    15.9%
  7. Rick Santorum

    15.9%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Leftcoastconservative

    Leftcoastconservative New Member

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    Who do you think could defeat Obama?

    In my opinion:

    Romney: YES

    Yes, he's a flip flopper with no core beliefs, and he will say anything to make people like him, but he is moderate and
    America is fed up with Obama.

    Gingrich: YES

    This one was borderline. He's not as extreme as some of the Republicans, and his gentler stance on immigration will win over Hispanics.

    Ron Paul: NO

    Don't even get me started...

    Jon Huntsman: YES

    Very moderate, not a flip flopper, and knows how to win over independents.

    Rick Perry: NO

    1) He is a pathetic failure at debating, 2) he has a habit of attacking his opponents, and 3) wait... I think I forgot...

    Michele Bachmann: NO

    Sarah Palin but 10 times worse. She is also even more clueless than Palin on historical events.

    Rick Santorum: NO

    His stance on homosexuality is just WAY too harsh for the average independent. Also, the first result when you Google his last name is not exactly helpful.
     
  2. CitizenKane105

    CitizenKane105 Banned

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    Well if I may offer up my insight on the subject matter...

    Mitt Romney: Maybe. There is no definite yes or no answer to this one because this guy flip-flops so much that he will say anything to get elected and sways where ever the wind blows. As for being a moderate...okay...went on that moderate route with McCain back in 08' and look who we ended up with. Mitt Romney can railroad Obama in a debate but as far as being voted on merit and record, no.

    Newt Gingrich: No. The former speaker has too much baggage and getting cozy with Pelosi in a political ad is the final nail in the coffin for the speaker. I will give Newt his high points that he is very intelligent and sharp in a debate but too much baggage is going to sink him. The Liberals would love nothing more if this guy won the Republican nomination, they'll have him for breakfast.

    Ron Paul: No. As much as I agree with him on many subjects on fiscal and government aspects he is abysmal on foreign policy. Ron is too much of that lunatic libertarian fringe that would be a big turn-off to independents. He is consistent but wouldn't hold up on a debate against Obama, he is simply not aggressive enough.

    Jon Huntsman: No. Simply put this guy is a progressive RINO who is so moderate and left on the scale that needs to wear the Democratic party motif instead of the GOP band. I dare say he is a liberal plant, but that's just me.

    Rick Perry: No. George Bush 2.0, enough said. He is like Bush with less memory.

    Michelle Bauchman: Possibly, if she can avoid any further gaffs and stop being a Joe Biden in a skirt. If she can learn to take some meds to get her focused and avoid tripping on political land mines she may have a chance. Then again she is a bit too polarizing like Sarah Palin which even fickle moderate Republican think she's toxic.

    Rick Santorum: Yes. Rick Santorum is consistent and can deliver a message that even independents can appeal to if he can polish up on his debating skills and don't hit too hard on some social issues. However since Santorum is not doing so hot in the pollings he is as dangerous as a battleship without its guns. Then again pollings are not exactly accurate and the end all, be all determining factor. To me he is the only real deal versus the other pretenders, however I doubt he has a snowball's chance in hell of getting the nomination. Time will tell I guess.
     
  3. BF4

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    Romney: Likely, depends on the economoy around the time of the elections. What is good for him is that nearly all of his baggage is already out on the table, there isn't a whole lot more Obama would be able to say about him that hasn't already been addressed. Obama's only chance of winning is to make the other side look worse since he can't run on his record.

    Newt: Likely, I think he could destroy Obama in debates but may struggle to get some independents.

    Ron Paul: No, just too radical, people will be scared off the such a drastic change in government to something so hands.

    Huntsman: Absolutely, probably has the best conservative record of the lot, (taxes, pro life, pro 2nd ammendment, much better record than Newt and Mitt). Obama's two biggest talking points will be "Republicans are promising more of the same" and "Republicans won't work with Democrats". He has a great tax reform plan that completely ends government picking winners and losers, has a great plan for too big to fail and has served in the Obama administration. He has somehow had a very republican record and has won over the girls on the View, he would win in a landslide.

    Perry: Maybe, the economy would have to remain status quo for another year and not improve any. He would need unemployment at around 9+. He has made a decent comeback after his debate gaff, but I would worry about him debating Obama personally.

    Bachman: Maybe, same as Perry. I do think she could pick up a lot of the female voting population. It is a shame how hard the media has been on her, she is a consistent conservative, an extremely intelligent person with a great record. There is no doubt she would be fighting to preserve the exceptionalism of this country every day.

    Santorum: Likely, he is honest and genuine and fights for good causes such as family stability. A lot of the problems in this country can be improved if we start with the household. Another person who I would never doubt would fight for this country through and through.


    My thoughts in order:

    Huntsman
    Newt
    Santorum
    Mitt
    Bachman
    Perry
    Paul
     
  4. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Cause you have nothing on him? If you are telling me that the GOP AND the indipendants (who side mostly with Ron on about everything) can't beat Obama just cause of the foreign aide issue, you are loonier than what you claim of Ron.
     
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    The indipendants love Ron Paul. They are the reason why he has the chance to win Iowa because the Indys are allowed to vote in the GOP primary. This thought that his foreign policy is a turn off to indys is rediculous. What he says is exactly why they voted for Obama in 2008.
     
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    You guys are absolutly crazy. Most people are fed up with status quo, and Ron doesn't even talk about changing the country overnight. He even has explained that his ultimate goal would take a while to achieve, but a sudden U-turn would not be the way he would go about achieving it.
     
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    Ron Paul has a strong power base in Iowa and has a strong followers of "libertarians" not so of independents. I'm talking about your fickle independents that still take up 60% of the vote in other states, not just Iowa. However I can agree that independents can find Ron Paul's approach on government and fiscal policy appealing in regards what we had running this country into the ground for the past 3 years...

    Ron would cause shock to the system. Ron Paul needs a gradual approach to fix this problem. It took a while for this system to get out of whack it will take a while to get it right. Ron Paul is taking such a hard turn he will capsize the ship (i.e. the country entire).

    The biggest turn-off as of now is his foreign policy. I do not think Iran should be allowed to have a nuclear weapon and we need to be very aggressive with Russia and with China. The pacifist approach will get us nowhere.
     
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    I think Mickey Freaking Mouse could beat Obama at this point. Its like he knows he is going down, so he is taking everyone and everything down with him. And when you have super liberals that say they would pick like a Romney or a Paul over him, you know he's in trouble.
     
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    Out of those, probably Gingrich. We accepted Clinton's sanduskying of his young political intern so apparently sexual cheating and immorality is pretty much okay and forgivable by the American people.
     
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    The only person who could beat Obama is Obama.

    The current crop of candidates don't have anything to offer, other than more of the same.
     
  11. danboy9787

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    You're from Canada? Because if so, then of course you must feel obliged to support the socialist liberal president over some true american values.
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And as you are from the US you must support the barbaric execution of innocent people through a viewing window after having applied for tickets to a vaudeville show, because that's the American way.
     
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    Oh yes. I have done that loads of times. The most pure form of entertainment, I believe. Care to come look at my guns?
     
  14. Leftcoastconservative

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    Not a single guilty person has been executed.
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    .......No. You would probably drop one and I wouldn't want to be responsible for you shooting yourself in the foot........ again.
     
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    Romney is the ONLY candidate who has a shot at this nearly "impossible" GOP task. And the only reason why he has a chance is because he's supported socialist ideas in the past. However, if the economy starts to improve right before the 2012 elections, he isn't going to win.
     
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    Mod edit: Personal attack removed.
     
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    Let's tone down the U.S. vs Canada rhetoric. It's starting to sound like a bad South Park script.

    Any of the Republican candidates could beat Obama this cycle. To quote Carville, "It's the economy, stupid." Obama's done a spectacularly bad job with it and the voters recognize that.
     
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    To me all candidates lack the charisma or eloquence of Obama.
    From a todays perspective it looks like a second turn for Barrack...
     
  20. Wildjoker5

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    You mean what we have had for the past 11 years. Indys voted for Obama cause they were fed up with Bush and standard GOP. Libertarians don't make up that much of Iowa BTW, it is the indys that are bumping RP in the polls.

    As he has said, he will implement corrections that will take time to enforce, NOT over night changes.

    And physically stopping Iran from getting a nuke that NO REPORT OR AGENCY says they are getting, will create WWIII no matter how hard you want to try to be against China and Russia. The War HAWK approach will leave the world in ruins, Iran will cause gas to shoot through the roof, and probably no one would have nukes afterwards cause they would probably get used in the all out war. Not to mention EU probably won't help us either considering how broke they are. Do you really think we can take Russia and China by ourselves?
     
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    Wow.

    Just a little bit ago a poll came out showing that four GOP candidates might whoop on Obama:

    Obama in Close Race Against Romney, Perry, Bachmann, Paul

    Obamas own poll numbers just dropped below President Carters a few days ago! Unless Bob Dole comes back and runs again it looks like Obama will be a one-termer.

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    Ron Paul is the only candidate who would take independents and a portion of the democrats.

    The others are merely more of the same old big govt crap.
     
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    I wish neo-con Republicans would just be honest and come out and say they'll support Obama over Ron Paul because they have more in common with massive government Statism than constitutional conservatism. You guys cite the U.S. constitution and "liberty" as a means to deceive people into thinking you're one of them but this primary has revealed you for what you are.

    The polls clearly show that Ron Paul can beat Obama and the other nominees cannot. Any argument to the contrary is just fantasy and delusional and based on nothing.

    Millions of conservatives will stay home if the Republican candidate is a RINO. Millions more will vote for Ron Paul to spite the establishment.

    You're either going to have Ron Paul as President or Obama. That's it.
    That's the choice. So why not spare us all these silly debates and clear the waters and just admit already that you would choose Obama.
     
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  24. What is free

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    I think Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman are the only ones who can beat Obama.

    The rest of them are the same old crop. They just want to start more wars and have some bad baggage or are terrible debaters.
     
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    I vote for Bachmann, the second choice is Ron Paul, all RINOs will lost elections.
     

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