Reverend Pompeo, The False Prophet

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And from the easy chair in your living room with solid intelligence from the CNN guys and no doubt consulting with a few advisors like Jack Daniels and Jim Beam, you have discovered the whole truth about the middle-eastern political situation and choose to tell us how we have it all wrong.......

    Amazing, brilliant insight. Do you have a really, really large crystal ball revealing this to you- or possible something more formidable?
     
  2. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    Read the whole thing and the message was ambiguous at best, deceitful bait at worst.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    I thought about it and it is conceivable given the circumstances, someone like James Baker could have concluded that it might be best not to exacerbate the situation with threats. As you stated, its hard to know for sure. With the benefit of hindsight, it was definitely a big mistake.
     
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    It is sad. What is worst than that is that the Republican party, and people like Lindsey Graham in particular, are supporting this nonsense.
     
  5. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    I’ll give you ambiguous...but it’s geopotical talks. It’s not America’s fault saddam was an evil dictator and invaded a nation.
     
  6. precision

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    Kuwait probably bears more responsibility than anyone for starting this nonsense. And that brings me to another point. This business of the US being the policeman of the world has become highly problematic, not only for US interests, but for the stability of the world order. To see this with regards to this incident, Kuwait felt it could get away with the types of things that it was doing to Iraq because they knew they could count on the US to bail them out if Saddam tried to do anything about it.

    Its the same crap with Israel and Saudi Arabia, they feel they can do any type of nonsense they want without impunity because they know that the US will back them up. That is the problem with the US being in the position of world policeman. You can't police the world in a just fashion by letting allies do whatever nonsense they want and only punishing enemies.
     
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    precision Well-Known Member

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    The US had no problem supporting Saddam when the US felt it was in their interests. We still support a brutal dictator in Saudi Arabia.
     
  8. precision

    precision Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you missed the point.

    Mike Pompeo wrapped himself in the cloak of the Bible, declared that Trump is an instrument of God, and then attempted to pontificate truth. Instead of divine nectar we got the dangerous poison of the deceit that the US is a force for good in the Middle East. This type of activity is the most dangerous type of poison because it not only creates problems for US foreign policy, BUT MORE THAN THAT, BECAUSE POMPEO IS IN A POSITION OF LEADERSHIP, IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MISLEAD PEOPLE ABOUT THE NATURE OF GOD, THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH, AND HOW GOD EXPECTS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LEAD THEIR LIFE IN A GODLY WAY SHOULD BEHAVE. To see this, consider this hypothetical. Let's suppose that someone makes his money by selling weapons to a person that he knows is a murderer. Can he claim that he is not complicit in the crimes that the murderer commits? OF COURSE NOT! In the same way, when the US supports a regime like the Saudi regime and turns a blind eye to such a murder, it also becomes complicit in the murder. Therefore Pompeo cannot do such things, and then at the same time wrap himself up in the cloak of the Bible and the truth and proclaim that the US is a force for good, when it is complicit in crimes such as this.

    Get it?

    As in my reply concerning Saudi Arabia, the same goes for the atrocities that Israel has committed against the Palestinians. You can't claim to be a force for good while at the same time being complicit in such atrocities.

    Hopefully you get the point now.
     
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  9. ImNotOliver

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    It is kind of scary, the god thing. Throughout Obama's presidency the conservatives were repeatedly told that liberals worshiped Obama like he was a Messiah. Of course that was just silly conservative talk. But now the conservatives are being told that God, Jesus himself, chose Trump to lead our country to its Christian, all White glory, full of ignorance and all.
     
  10. Chester_Murphy

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    Yes, I got it before. I simply utterly and completely disagree with your assessment. Where is the link to those quotes?


    Saudi Arabia and Israel are two different issues. Comparing Jews to Muslims isn't possible. If you want to say that Israel uses an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth as its mantra, you might be closer to being correct. Shoot rockets at innocents and you will be receiving more than you ask for in return. That's not an atrocity.
     
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    If the terrorists liked the Golan Heights, they should have complied with the water agreement they violated. They would have refrained from denying Israel access to water in violation of their agreement. They would have refrained from launching attacks from the Golan Heights and would have acted like the civilized people they are not and refrained from launching rocket attacks against civilian targets. Terrorists being terrorists, they lost an area from which they started a war. No other country that won a defensive war has been asked to return the land from which the attack was launched.
     
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    Naw he just marched in and occupied everything worth having and then set fire to everything while they were withdrawing.
     
  13. struth

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    yeah we do things in our interest
     
  14. precision

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    Your problem here is that there was no comparison. It was merely a statement of equivalence of principle. For example if I say a funds manager who defrauds investors should be punished for his crimes just as a petty thief, I am not comparing the funds manager to the thief. I am merely stating that there is a principle, namely that people should be punished for their crimes, that should be applied to both the funds manager and the petty thief.

    Get it?

    That's not what I want to say. I am saying that killing innocent women and children is an atrocity and that collective punishment in the form of cutting off power to all of Gaza and thereby harming innocent people is an atrocity.

    Get it?
     
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    No. We do what people such as John Bolton, et al, erroneously believe is in our interest. The problem is that they are people whose vision is grossly distorted by the influence of arrogance as a result of their inability to curb their inherent lust, anger, greed, and envy.

    That's the problem.
     
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    We are in our 18th year of an undeclared war of terror, and you see this as peaceful? We are harassing Venezuela in multiple ways including turning off their electricity and you see this as peaceful?

    Gawd, man, your judgment is questionable.
     
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    Part of the problem with capitalism is that it gives people with enormous amounts of money too much power to distort the truth in the minds of the general public through false propaganda. Really amazing how they are able to deceive people in this way.
     
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    John Bolton wasn’t in office when we allied with SA, or Israel
     
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    We declared war on terror in 2001.,..congess authorized it. We aren’t Venezuelans electric company...a socialist left wing dictator did that.
     
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    I said people like John Bolton. Those type of people have been around for quite a while, and that is a problem.
     
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    Then, why do Palestinians send rockets indiscriminately into Israel? They do not believe that. You make a point that is unworthy of the subject.

    Violence against a sovereign nation will beget violence. Is that so difficult to understand? Israel doesn't simply start firing rockets across the border for effect, like Palestinians. Therefore, you cannot compare the two.

    You are completely confused because you are self-righteous and believe in your cause being worth any cost. Then, stop complaining about innocents. Stop indiscriminately firing rockets across the border. Start living peacefully and working with Israel, instead of metaphorically placing a target on your backs.

    Keep your religion and all it's good practices. Live and let live. Work with them to create a better life for all. Assimilate as much as possible and they will help you live the most productive and happiest life possible. Stop thinking everyone hates you for being you, and realize they hate what you do.

    Get it?
     
  22. precision

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    Wrong. They do it for effect. Israel wants to impress upon the world that it will use any means, including killing innocent people, TO MAINTAIN AND EXPAND ITS STATE.

    Nope. I don't believe in killing innocent people. I don't do it, and I don't advocate for it.
     
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    Yes indeed, it seems to have had the desired effect on you, claiming we are in peaceful times. Shop 'til you drop--the government has your best interests at heart and is protecting you as it delivers "peace".
     
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    Ah, you're one of those souls who believe what you're told by the government and media. That explains much.
     
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    Are you suggesting that congress didn’t pass an authorization of the use of force?
     

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