Rittenhouse trial goes to opening statements after jury set

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by HurricaneDitka, Nov 2, 2021.

  1. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,628
    Likes Received:
    9,577
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Alone and afraid isn't his defense. He feared his life was threatened because people were attacking him. That goes beyond feels into reality and deliberate actions taken by those who were shot.

    Don't attack people with guns. That's my life lesson advice for you.
     
    JET3534 and Ddyad like this.
  2. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Messages:
    48,801
    Likes Received:
    32,508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Exactly.

    And, once again, to your point:

    Any attempt to predict what a Jury is thinking, is the definition of a Fool's Errand.
     
  3. dbldrew

    dbldrew Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2013
    Messages:
    1,813
    Likes Received:
    1,015
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I noticed something in the trial where the prosecution was accusing Drew Hernandez as posting videos that show kyle as being innocent. It was an attempt to try and show bias, but all it did for me is show that the prosecution thinks the video evidence shows Kyle as innocent.

    The prosecutions interpretation of the videos shows Kyle as innocent so If any of the Jurors picked up that then there is no chance of getting past reasonable doubt when the prosecution just admitted to reasonable doubt
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2021
    Ddyad and US Conservative like this.
  4. ToughTalk

    ToughTalk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2018
    Messages:
    12,628
    Likes Received:
    9,577
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sounds like he did not. He got his friend to purchase it, and he was going to buy it back when he reached 18.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  5. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He was afraid of being killed while being ATTACKED.
    Not because he was just scared. lol

    I watched his entire testimony. I didn't hear anything from him that was a lie. What was he lying about when you claim he was lying his ass off?


    Yet you couldn't figure out what my answer was? Your point was nothing is decided until there is a verdict.
    My point was with what I have seen thus far, I don't need a verdict to make up my mind as to what I have seen.
    And you are claiming things going over others heads?

    I don't need a verdict to figure out if the guy is guilty or not.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  6. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2006
    Messages:
    13,607
    Likes Received:
    2,167
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There is an argument being made that the law is not clear on this, perhaps why you've received different answers. The judge has said he will consider dropping this charge although the jury will be going into deliberation soon and this charge is apparently still in play. I don't know.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  7. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2008
    Messages:
    19,005
    Likes Received:
    3,615
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The group Rittenhouse was with was armed but that does not make them a mob.

    Grosskreutze was a viuollent rioter with lengthy history of felonies.

    He attacked Rittenhouse which is proven fact you absolutely deny in a willful manner
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  8. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,490
    Likes Received:
    91,409
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just in case anyone wants to learn about the people Kyle had to defend himself from

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Condor060

    Condor060 Banned Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Messages:
    20,939
    Likes Received:
    15,451
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Say it ain't so. I heard they were in church with their grandmothers when they heard a noise outside, walked out of the church, and were gunned down by the criminal homicidal maniac Rittenhouse.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2021
    JET3534, Steve N and Ddyad like this.
  10. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,677
    Likes Received:
    9,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ok let's make this real simple for you based on WHEN EXACTLY Kyle said he was in fear.

    When Pedo tells him if he gets him alone he'll kill him then see's him again, chases him to where he had no place to go, lunged at him and grabbed his gun barrel, do you not think it's reasonable to be afraid.

    when he's running from a mob to the police, get's hit in the head with a skate board knocked to the ground then kicked in the face and was on the ground. Do you think it's reasonable he was afraid.

    Then finally immediately after he killed the skateboard wielding gy he turns and EMT guy is there with a gun coming towards him, he raises his gun, guy raises his hands, kyle lowers his gun, guy lowers his hands comes at him and points the pistol at his head. Do you think it's reasonable he was afraid?

    Those are the times Kyle in the trial said he was afraid, which one do you think he wasn't fearing for his life? Stop interjecting alternative facts and let's get to bottom line on the facts here.
     
  11. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2013
    Messages:
    22,658
    Likes Received:
    6,196
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You don't exactly have the best track record of making predictions
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2021
    mngam and Ddyad like this.
  12. GlobalCitizen

    GlobalCitizen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    8,330
    Likes Received:
    1,209
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think Mr Gaige can forget about his $10M, and start thinking about what Rittenhouse is going to ask for his civil trial, which I would file the day after my exoneration.
     
    Steve N, Ddyad and US Conservative like this.
  13. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    26,246
    Likes Received:
    14,295
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Could it be when he chose to fire his rifle?

    The only thing that I am saying is that HE WAS AFRAID, and now you argue as if I said the opposite. How is this so complicated for you?

    What are you arguing about? Or are you disagreeing just for the sake of disagreeing.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,677
    Likes Received:
    9,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The judge also stopped the prosecution two days ago and instructed the jury that don't take the version of the law as the absolute truth. He would give them the law and how it's intended before they deliberate and the prosecution and defense may have versions that aren't accurate lol.

    He legally could have a loaded gun with supervision, there were times he didn't have supervision so it's down to was legal who he came with, yes, was it legal when he got separated? Seems like a tough sale because then you would have to decide how far away can the supervision be? Keep in mind it's used mainly with hunting. If dad takes his 17 year old son, drops him off to deer hunt drives a mile away and hunts the other side of the farm does that mean the son is now illegal? Of course not he went hunting with his supervisor and his supervisor gave him the rifle, just like Kyle. No where does it say they have to be side by side, that would mean every kid that hunts deer in Minnesota could be convicted.
     
    Steve N and glitch like this.
  15. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hes a filthy communist and therefore a liar as well.

    Rachel Maddow will have him on her show so they can both lie and outrage their audience of the uninformed.

    And so it goes.
     
    FatBack and Steve N like this.
  16. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,677
    Likes Received:
    9,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No you and the defense were trying to say that he was running around afraid and why he shot those people. No he was afraid in those moments like anyone else in the world would be. It's the same argument that was crushed in court. You literally have witness testifying that while he was alone he was asking and treating injuries, he wasn't afraid until thugs attacked him. That's the testimony, that's what the video shows and that's what every person that testified that was at the rally testified, even elbow boy victim.
     
    Ddyad and US Conservative like this.
  17. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    26,246
    Likes Received:
    14,295
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I am saying he was afraid for his life (which is what Kyle also said), which is the bases of his self defense case. It is a valid claim.

    You disagree, and I am ok with that.

    Happy?
     
  18. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now they are the only kind of good commies.
     
    Steve N likes this.
  19. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 19, 2015
    Messages:
    66,099
    Likes Received:
    68,212
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I like this channel because the commentators are all lawyers.
     
  20. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2017
    Messages:
    10,677
    Likes Received:
    9,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You said kyle said he was afraid when separated and that's not what he said. Let me be clear, my issue with you is distorting what the testimony and video clearly shows. I have no problem with you believing this or that but distorting exactly what was said or shows and I will challenge you on the facts.
     
  21. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Except he said the reason he tried to go to safety is because he got separated.
     
  22. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well except for not testifying Kyle pointed his gun at him and admitting he pointed his gun at Kyle you might have something.
     
  23. Par10

    Par10 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2019
    Messages:
    4,385
    Likes Received:
    3,847
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    1. At this time, he is innocent of any gun charges so it doesn't matter. If they want to bring up gun charges later, it still will not matter for this case.
    2. Doesn't matter. He pointed a gun (legal or not) at Rittenhouse. That is cause enough to get yourself shot. If they want to bring gun charges later, it still will not matter to this case.
     
  24. Pred

    Pred Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    24,425
    Likes Received:
    17,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    People arguing about Kyle being guilty of murder are the same idiots who couldn’t assess reality and facts when it came to Trayvon. And here we have all this video showing it clear as day.

    It’s really simple. If all Kyle wanted to do was kill
    random people, he could have done it without anyone even knowing…from afar in the shadows. Hit and run. Hit and Run. He wouldn't have put himself at the scene, talking to loads of people, that’s for sure or tried to put out fires, assist the injured, ect.

    Biggest case of self defense you could get. And as usual the people shot are of course model citizens…again:)
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2021
    roorooroo, Steve N and dbldrew like this.
  25. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    26,246
    Likes Received:
    14,295
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I said he was alone and afraid, and that is a fact. He said that. I don't care what you read into it, because you obviously argue for the sake of arguing.
     

Share This Page