Romney is a Mormon... Is He "Christian"?

Honestly, what is with the nutty monotheism? I don't get it. It seems like if monotheists don't have other religions to be holier then thou to, they just divide up and fight amongst themselves for no apparent reason. Honestly, it is not necessary to have someone to show the world how much Righter you are then them. Just how insecure are monotheists anyway? Just let everyone follow whatever gods feel right for them and describe themselves however they wish. What difference does it make?

 

Well said

I remember 4 years ago Lawrence O'Donnell went nuts on the McLaughlin Group over Mormonism

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/09/lawrence-odonnell-loses-h_1_n_75987.html?

I do not care why anyone would care about Mitt's religion as long as he follows the US Constituion if he is elected

 

Religion, organized religion is about controlling the masses, or as many lost souls as possible for profit. Nothing more, nothing less. Send money now, because God needs more!

 

Well Darlin'....... it's like this: Liberal/Progressive/Marxist/Statists jus' don't understand faith in an entitly larger then themselves, (they think they are the top of the ol' food chain n' all that good ol' look down those long snarky noses at the unwashed, n' all that good chit). They may have blind faith in Darwinism or Uncle Joe Stalin and/or Chairman Mao, butt: as godless Commies they tend to be religious bigots. Real simple: takes only one functional brain cell ta understand the corncept.

Godless Commies rarely understand faith: Darlin', even though they very strongly believe in the power of Nanny Gubment.

Who is fightin': Darlin'? Surely not me. Methinks ya better stick ta readin' the werds in me posts, n' not me simple mind. (Liberals can't read the minds of others): Darlin', no matter how much ya think ya can.

You sure have a hangup with the werd "honestly" don't ya: Sweetcakes? You jus' mind yer own posts n' leave the folks who understand the belief in God to those who understand religious faith, eh: Good Lookin'?

As a hillbilly from the Great Pacific Northwest I'm very secure, how 'bout you?

We agree here: Sweetheart. You jus' run along n' worship Nanny Gubmnet all ya want, or whatever floats that boat of yers now, ya hear? lmao

I like ta debate: Darlin', n' yer the correct gender, butt: yer not my momma. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Methinks this is a debate forum, is it not?

I type in blue fer Ladies such as you, as it makes it very easy ta pass me posts right on by.

You carry on now, OK?

 

The thoughts of religious bigots, eh?

 

The historical facts my friend.

 

It doesn't explain how Jesus can be his own son.

 

Cuz he said so (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)!! Yours is not to question why, just to jump and ask how high!!

 

You are obviously NOT a Christian, or maybe you have a severe problem with brain function.

Please read, (or re-read), me posts on this thread.

Google, or use a college level dictionary, fer the big werds like omnipotent n' such.

Then do yer best ta think a weeeeeee bit. (Doesn't take much).

Some people jus' can't understand very simple very basic corncepts I guess, (I only have one functional brain cell and I get it loud n' clear when the ol' brain cell is at idle).

I tried........ I really did.......

 

Aww if everybody had only one functioning brain cell, thought exactly the same, felt exactly the same, believed exactly the same, and followed one religion just the same as everybody else, what a wonderful world it would be.
　
　
If you don't know the answer, it's always best to just say you simply do not know.

 

~_~ Didn't your momma ever teach you what you make out of U and Me when you ass/u/me? Where to begin? Let's see, number one, I never made any statements about my gender one way or the other, nor do I intend to. I'm a godless commie, am I? Isn't it strange that I put the name of my patron goddess in my tag, then? For your information, I happen to have a shrine to Athena in my living room. As for communism, Marx was a naive idealist, Stalin a sociopathic murderer (seriously, he sounds to me like he had a serious mental illness) and Mao was just off the deep end. Do you just automatically label anyone who has the temerity to dare disagree with you as a godless commie? Do you even know what the words mean? Well, considering that you don't seem to understand that "liberal," "progressive," "Marxist," "statist," "communist," and "Maoist" all mean different things, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I bet you think that "socialist," "communist," and "Nazi" all mean the same thing too, don't you? Well I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at that either, since command of the English language doesn't seem to be one of your strong suits.

Now then, when I mentioned monotheists dividing up and fighting amongst themselves, I was talking primarily about the historical behavior of those religions. Let's just say the Mormons didn't wind up living in a gods forsaken desert for the scenery. Although anytime true believers start jabbering on about who's a "real" christian or whatever, it pretty much smacks of the same thing. It's not really any different then Trotsky and Stalin arguing over who's the "real" communist.

And what in the world does faith have to do with religion? Initial assumptions without proof are a prerequisite for any sort of logic or rational thought. for that matter, you have to have faith that when you get out of bed in the morning you aren't going to just fall through the floor. Religion is no different then any other subject in that regard.

 

I'm an onlooker from the UK - I can't believe the amount of religious bigotry that still exists in the US these days. I thought the US Constitution allowed people freedom of religious belief - apparently not. It seems to me that not much has changed since the mobs ran the Mormons out of Missouri in the 1840's.

I'm Mormon (you may be surprised that there are more of us these days outside the USA than inside) and I consider myself and my Church to be Christian ( - the clue is in the name... ‘The Church of ‘Jesus Christ’ of Latter-day Saints’)

I have Jewish, Catholic, Muslim (etc) friends - our friendships are strengthened by those things we agree about, whilst we recognise and respect each others in things we disagree on. America.... isn't it time you did the same?

Perhaps it might be a good idea to choose a Presidential candidate based on his ability to get the USA out of its financial and social mess, rather than basing your choice on the candidates’ belief system!

 

Well, he's not any Elmer Gantry but he'll do. It would be more interesting if he were a Mer-Man anyway.

 

Hmmmmm...... sounds silly ta me.
　　

Answer to what?

Are you my momma or some such?

Or jus' chief of the ol' inquisition?

 

An arse yer sayin'? Could be: Darlin'.

Never met a dude named Kess, so yer not a Lady then?

Hmmmmmmmmm............???????

Sounds like yer a pagan worshiper, yer very clearly NOT Christian.

Good fer you. I note ya live in Philly, not Athens, so maybe the Greek stuff cornfused me about yer gender eh: Darlin'? Are ya transgender or some such: Sweetie?

Hmmmmmm....... I see..... n' those fellers followed Zues, or some such... yer sayin'?

Nope, butt: Commies are godless aren't they?

Yuppers, I surely do Darlin'

They only mean different things to snoooty/snarky look down their nose Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Commie/Statists who think they know soooooo much more then the unwashed masses, eh: Dear?

Purdy close as they are applied in the real world, eh: Darlin'.

With the use of only one functional brain cell, I'm not the sharpest tool in the ol' shed: Sweetcakes.

I guess ya think the ol' pagan worshipin' Greeks were pacifists, then? Ever heard of ol' Al, Sweetstuff? (Ya know that gay feller who conquered more of the known world then any other General/military feller 'til ol Genghis Khan n' his boys came along? Hmmmmmmm........???????

That be true.

That said: what does it have ta do with the price of beans in Boston, eh?

Hmmmmmm......... ya think?

Or Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Commie/Statists claimin' they know all about Fox news when they never EVER watch it yer sayin'?

Lots.

Hmmmmmmm....... ya think?

No ya don't Darlin'.

Nope, it is different: Sweetstuff.

You go Girl!!!!!!!

 

More from the oh so tolerant left on Mitt's religion

 

So you have met women named Kes? I'm afraid you're just going to have to figure this one out on your own. I do hope that doesn't overly burden your poor solitary brain cell.

Congratulations, your single brain cell managed to figure it out. I am indeed proudly pagan, and very emphatically not christian. So are you then implying that anyone who isn't a Christian is a godless commie? Because that's rather what it sounds like.

Come again? Holy leaps of illogic, Batman! How in the world did you come to the conclusion that Marx, Stalin, and Mao followed Zeus? To my knowledge, they were all quite ahteist.

Although communism is often associated with atheism, largely thanks to Marx, that does not mean that all communists are necessarily atheists.

So you celebrate ignorance and stupidity, then get your back up when someone points out that you've got your facts wrong? Isn't that kind of like trying to milk a bull and then complaining about getting kicked in the head? Shouldn't you be proud of not knowing what you're talking about?

And no, as a matter of fact, all those things are quite distinctly different. Tell me, if you have no idea what folks are even saying, how do you know you actually disagree with them?

That is painfully obvious.

So, how do you get from monotheists having a tendency to fight amongst themselves when they don't have other religions to persecute to ancient Greeks being pacifists? The two ideas are unrelated, and the second one is just silly. Polytheists are just as capable of all sorts of bad behavior as everyone else. The difference is that polytheists very rarely use their religion as an excuse.

Just saying that from where I stand, this nonsense about whether or not Romney is a "real" christian or not seems like the exact same sort of thinking that led to that sort of historical unpleasantness. I'm just asking why monotheists do that - it seems pretty weird to me.

Think you could possibly be a little more specific then that? What does Faith have to do with religion? And if religion is different from other subjects, how and why?

 

Who cares? He is not running as spiritual leader. He is running for the Presidency.

I will not vote for him. I will vote for Obama.

But it is CERTAINLY not his religion (or anyone's religion, except if their religion leads them to make extremist statements and policy decisions) that would influence my vote!

 

Like Obama has not made extreme statements?

 

So. . .we are talking about Romney. . .I even defend the guy because I don't think religion has anything to do with politics. . .and you find it an opportunity to attack Obama AGAIN?

Sick!
Now. . . I must ask: Could you please provide a link to a extreme religious statement, or the use of religion in any of his policy he has made?

 

It is mainly from the Left Colin.

Sure it has changed, I bet Mitt is the next POTUS.

Jus' because ya use the name of my God doesn't mean you or yer Church are Christian, my good man. My God is NOT the brother of Satan, yer Church's "Jesus Christ" is the brother of Satan. Christianity is monotheistic, the LDS Church is polytheistic.

Most of us do, the Liberal/Progressives are only 20 something percent of the population, and not all Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Commie/Statists are religious bigots: Colin.

10-4!!!

 

Yuppers n' she was a real looker toooooooo!!!! mmm...mmm...mmm

I already figured it out, yer a good lookin' woman.

Nope yer a pagan. Are ya a Commie?

Good, I was jus' funnin' with ya: purdy Lady.

Most are.

I may not be the sharpest knife in the ol' drawer butt: I'm plenty sharp ta crush you, (in debate) not physically.

Do tell.

I know what the werds they type mean, I jus' don't read minds, like Liberals think they can do.

"Painfully"? lmao I hope yer butt doesn't hurt toooooo bad: Sweetheart. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Methinks many times they did the dirty deals in the name of their gods.

You don't know much about history, do you?

Because you are not a Christian, you have no idea what makes a person a Christian: purdy Lady.

Romney's religion is moot IMHO, (unless yer a religious bigot), which most on the right are not.

It is mainly Lefties who are religious bigots, and they will not be votin' fer Romney anyhoooo. Their big Gubmnet messiah is Obamaprompter: Sweetheart.

Faith requires no proof. Hope that helps: Darlin'.

 

So there were no Christians prior to 1611? Weird that!! I was convinced Christianity was about 2000 years old, but apparently it only started in 1611 when the Church of England produced a poor English translation of the Bible!! Who knew?

 

I see you have no answer. I'm not surprised, of course. The fact is that the Mormon view of the trinity is far more logical and comprehensible than the idea that they are all manifestations of the same god.

Mainstream Christians just try to hard to be monotheists when they really are not.