Ron Paul Supporters:

He does but, like I mentioned there are two choices... And his Motto is to assault the Centralized Government and push more power onto the States. He doesn't like Earmarks but, in the sense of the options given to him it's the best possible because crossing your arms only hands the money over to the Federal Government. It would be one thing if he had the choice to stop it but, he doesn't. Policy needs to change...

What other choice is there? I listed the options and his War is against the Federal Government mismanaging money and stealing money (My opinion) from Middle/Lower classes to fund projects such as our Foreign Aid/Militarism.

It's their own Private Conversations it would be just like suggesting that since Corporations/Businesses deal with the people the People deserve to hear what goes on in your meetings.

 

Well I'm sure all the Faithful Few buy all that. The rest of us don't see that much difference between him and the Bush / Obamas of the world.

Oh, and I didn't say he voted to keep conversations secret - he voted to keep the MONEY secret. You know. Money. That stuff he claims other politicians are corrupted with. Yeah that stuff. The stuff he wants to keep secret and behind closed doors. It's that transparency thing...

 

That never happend, maybe you should show us this. I think you are just trying to win an argument based on a false premis or guess. Do you have any proof?

 

What right do you have or does anyone to know where their money is going unless it's involved with a Criminal act? Clearly none so stay out of their business.

Ah right whatever... I guess when someone says something is wrong and is pushing to notify the people of it he is clearly like all of the rest. When people call him Nuts or Kooky or a Pothead he is clearly on the establishment side of things. There isn't any point in try defend him against someone elses opinion at all because it's purely opinion and not fact. So I'm going to let it go and I'll most likely seeing you vote for an Establishment Candidate in the coming months for no other reason because it's the "Lesser Evil".

 

Few other things. Fort Sumpters residents (the north) were given many opportunities to vacate the southern states property, they refused.

Second, after the first major battle, the south had a direct route to the capital, but since the south only wanted to be left alone, they allowed the north to retreat thinking they wouldn't return.

 

Ironically, right after he voted NO on requiring lobbyist disclosure of bundled donations. (May 2007)

He published an article "End government secrecy; restore openness of information." in Aug 2007)

Also, he voted NO on campaign finance reform banning soft-money contributions. (Feb 2002)

You can see all the votes speeches etc... of any candidate at www.ontheissues.org I have found them to be without agenda or bias.

 

Ahhhh. Vote for your Estblishment candidate because you consider him less estblishment than the others? I just don't see the huge difference you guys profess.

 

He voted no because it required it of lobbiests but not other organizations. It was a unbalanced and unfair bill.

 

If you want to see the difference look at the top donors (you know, where the money is coming from):

http://freetexas.wordpress.com/2011...mpaign-donors-through-the-third-quarter-2011/

 

Roelath..

quote.. " Yeah it's one thing to push for Term Limits... Then proceed to leave and nothing has changed. Really intelligent...

Really? So you have people know it's just his Earmark dealings that truly gains all of the support. You're still truly a Moron."

So that's your explanation ? Leave and NOTHING has changed ?
Cool..Can I use that with Romney ?
1 term..4 years. 4.2% unemployment.
Balanced Budget.Universal health care. 2 million rainy day fund surplus.

And for Obama ?
9.1 % unemployment. Several Trillion dollars in debt..Getmo still around..
New troops in Africa. Wall St. protest..divided nation..lack of transparency.

Paul..20 years plus..NOTHING HAS CHANGED..still Congress screwed up..and he was part of that congress.

Intelligent has nothing to do with that..even a Moron can see that

Let's see ..who votes for congressmen ?..Districts that receive the best earmarks..How does Reid..Pelosi..Dodd..and Paul ever
stay elected ?

By a national referendum ?

BS..then they think they are great and go NATIONAL as in 3rd time for Paul..3 times and never more than 10 %
IF they somehow get elected.. ( Obama )they are totally over their ideological heads ..they cant understand why nobody gets it ..

We do get it..

They dont.

 

You seem to take things into the perspective as if Ron Paul has done nothing... Clearly you're immensly mistaken considering the accomplishments he has over the course of time in Office. Audit the FED, Establishment of the TEA Party (Until it was taken over...), Bringing up sound money in discussions, Brought up discussions concerning the overall Freedom issue in the Nation, created more Anti-Militarism Republicans, Pushed for the end of the War on Drugs, has the most consistent record and always speaks the Truth. Are those not enough? There are plenty of things too that could have been changed if people listened but, you're simply going to ignore him just because he wasn't able even when he tried? What a fool you are.

Comparing scumbag Obama who lyed with the majority of his promises to Ron Paul is repulsive... He is better off being compared to Romney for the same Ideological Switches and Stances. I know you get angry whenever someone brings up Romneys record but, it's clear proof he bends to where ever the winds blow him too... He is a blade of grass while Ron Paul is a Mountain.

 

Ron Paul doesn't compare with the really great candidates like Romney, Perry or Obama. They're all just so honest and accomplished. They've really made a difference and been very honest. Obama has kept a HUGE number of promises - repealing DADT, Iraq, a great health care plan and Git-Mo. I'm sure Romney or Perry would do the same if they are elected.

 

I have read all these reasons not to vote for RP. Nothing that I have read so far is accurate. I will be voting for RP and praying that the rest of you may learn to value your civil rights before they are all gone.

 

If radicals had not destroyed our founders vision; by converting our republic to a democracy, giving control of our currency to centralized banking, changing our capitalism into a corporatism, turning us into a dependent welfare state through socialism, dumbing us down in corrupted education and then sending us off to fight in unprovoked, undeclared and unconstitutional wars...if that hadn't been allowed to happen, Ron Paul would not be considered a "radical" today. Ron Paul would be "the status quo".

http://youtu.be/N4r0VUybeXY

 

Ron Paul or nobody at all!!!


Time to take back the country for the sake of ALL OF US!!


Send Obama a message in 2012...YOU BELONG IN KENYA NOT AMERICA!!!

Let's vote this clown out of office people!!!!

 

Unfair and unbalanced to whom? Corporations? Poor babies! So better to not start down the right path at all?
I guess if I were a faithful acolyte, I might be able to buy into that.

 

So equality is only a virtue only when it is convient????

 

So..
Tell us of any budget he has ever balanced ?
Tell us of any business or company he founded that created or saved jobs ?
Tell us of any war that he voted against that we haven't won ?
Tell us of any ground breaking legislation that controlled the congress he was part of from over spending..over reaching and over extending.

Paul is the complete opposite of Romney.
Romney has a political history that can be examined..and debated..
Paul has 22 years of voting No..but nothing else.
Romney has 30 years of business experience..
Paul was a doctor.. a long time ago.

Romney saved failed business and political models.
Paul merely participated.

Paul says get rid of excess government...
Romney says make it better...

So you have a rusted out Chevy with a bad engine..
Do you junk it and worry later what to do next..or fix what you can..spending as little as possible and getting the most out of YOUR money.
Romney is the fix it guy.
Paul..The new car salesman.

 

Paul is the guy who, realizing you don't need a car at all, won't try to sell you a new one or an old one. Paul says no because not only he is a doctor of medicine, he's also an expert in economics and in the principles of liberty, and he applies this knowledge and those principles consistently.

Romney can run a business, but government can't be run like a business and so he's like the guy who's trying to sell an aircraft engine for the rusty old deathtrap Chevy. Romney will nickel and dime you to death whilst enriching himself and his friends and the bankers who will pull his strings. He'll continue to create more debt for your children and grandchildren. He has no principles which guide him in politics, just expediency.

 

really? This is what you think is the problem. You really think you can make excess goveremt better? How do you make a pile of trash better? Get rid of what you don't need, that is how Romney "saved" those businesses, he was a hatchet man.

 

You guys amaze me..

Romney was a hatchet man ?
Gee ..great that will just work fine in fixing a boated broken government.
He has the experience to Chop away whats broke..where Paul doesn't.

Just what in the world Made RON PAUL a economic guru ?
Talk about a leap of faith..
Expert in economics ?...CRAPOLA ALERT !

Name the source..show the courses taken the college, the grade average..
Or if you cant ..show his past historical successes that prove this theory.
Obama was a Great community organizer..history proves that..
It also shows being a organizer or DOCTOR means squat in regards to economic development and problem solving.
No principles?
How about making his people Money?
how about being loyal to his wife and religion ?
How about balancing state budgets and leading with bi partisan support ?
How about not accepting salary while Governor ?
Or turning his $ million dollar salary for the Olympic games to charity ?
I just showed more principle and character than all the other guys combined.
You guys smear him saying the banks own him..no ..that be Obama..
The voters own Romney..and you cant figure out why he bends to what they want and need?

Because he IS DIFFERENT from the crony self serving politics every one else is tied to.
Paul is tied to a ideology ..just as Obama is..
Romney is tied to SUCCESS..a HUGE and over powering difference.

 

So doing what's right is a virtue only when it's convenient? But whatever I get it. You can see no wrong in Ron Paul. He is your messiah. Danm those who dare criticize him! Got it.

 

What, does he need to be approved of by Paul Krugman or something? Maybe he needs to be a shill for the fed.

Ron Paul educating the Joint Committee on economics:

 

Why do have such an obsession about Ron Paul? If you're scared of him, just go ahead and say so.

 

i despise politicians that pander to ignorance


this video is quite entertaining

the first part of the video reminds me of a lot of the personas many people on this forum portray

then the second part (2:34) shows the heart of their beliefs

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