Russia caught lying again. Finally admits truth about MH17

Yes it is exact - Bioweapos Labs Component engineering and construction were DONE in Russia - operated the Kazakh scientists under the leadership of Ukrainian president. All Russians lived in the occupied Baltic or in Chechnya at this time. Death of the USSR - glory of the USA!

 

I'm sorry but you're wrong. Now the Americans are engaged in a lot of charity because a lot of money. The US government is stealing from the weak peoples 100 rubles after Angelina Jolie return 1 ruble. These people do not want handouts. These people want that the United States stop to plunder their country.

 

It is a pity that the US has very few people like you. You think with your head. Most Americans believe in stupid propaganda.

 

You don't forget that the US helped to lift up economies on many countries...

In my opinion last decades, wars of the US and different sponsoring (like in Ukraine for example) Iraq... unprofitable for the US (besides and loss of soldiers, own citizens)

About Angelina Jolie... movies with Angelina Jolie were watched by the whole world and you probably also ... went to the cinema and paid one ruble...

 

I do not need to believe. I know that the United States helps to lift a economy some countries. But the United States helps only those countries where government is controlled by US. Why the US does not help Cuba? Conversely US strangling her with sanctions. Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and so on. These countries close to the US. Why do they not have a significant help? Because the US help for the profit and not for the sake of charity. In Iraq, the US came for the control the oil. Angelina Jolie is good person and she helps for the charity. But look how it looks from the outside. First the American army comes and killed, robbed, tortured hundreds of thousands of people. Then comes Angelina Jolie and helps hundreds of people.

 

Remember.....the U.S. and Canada don't need Russian Natural Gas or Oil.

Both the United States and Canada will become completely ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT BY 2023.

Russia has neither the Money, Technology or Experience to develop Siberian Infrastructure....build Roads and Pipelines that won't sink in the Spring and help Russia develop an economy based upon Russian Private Companies making Money by selling GOODS AND SERVICES TO RUSSIAN'S!!

Now that is not going to happen if there are no JOBS in Russia.

Putin want's to use CHINESE WORKERS in Eastern Siberia instead of RUSSIAN WORKERS!!

Doesn't that P!$$ YOU OFF!!!!

Russia is in the midle of an Economic Crisis and the LEADER OF RUSSIA WANT'S TO HIRE CHINESE WORKERS!!

Not if...but WHEN...and I say WHEN because there is only so much Russian's can take.

WHEN Russia partners up with the United States there will be an IMMEDIATE CREATION OF MILLIONS OF NEW AND GOOD JOBS FOR AVERAGE RUSSIAN'S!!

The Chinese want to use their own people to EXPLOIT SIBERIA!!!

Putin want's to let them!!

More PROFITS for Puti and his 110 Buddies.

China NEEDS RUSSIAN OIL AND GAS!!! They will do anything in their power to make certain they get it as cheaply as they can.

The United States and Canada DON'T NEED RUSSIAN ENERGY!!!

We have the most indepth and long term experience with such development.

We would use RUSSIAN WORKERS!!!

We woud make certain no one is steeling profits.

But hey.....this is YOUR PROBLEM!!!

We can help....but it's up to you.

AboveAlpha

 

Russia have enough oil for 30-40 years, and then Russia will start using slate gas.(there the largest supplies in the World) For these decades, it is sure Russia will have these technologies. Earlier they weren't necessary in Russia it is way Russia don't have it.

PS: In Western Siberia. There all infrastructure is ready – pipes are laid, working settlements are built, the electricity is brought. We have no tested technology on oil recovery from the Bazhenov. It is necessary to make everything to receive technology on production of slate oil"

 

HAHAHAHAHA)))) Your head is full of stereotypes and a propaganda. You too long admired ourselves. The world has changed and you do not see. This is very funny.

Read about the slates! Slates are very different. Not all of them can be used. Your government is lying about the volume of stocks shale. After the shale remains a many pollution therefore New York banned the extraction of shale. There are four seats good for mining of the shale In the US. New York, Texas, Utah and on the border with Canada(The Bakken). In Canada is the high cost. The best is in Texas. About Utah did not read but there is worse than in Texas. The Performance of a borehole falls quickly. In two years by 50%. More write about it's laziness. The main thing that shale is good but not as good as you think.

About the fact that Russia does not have a technology, and so on. Yet in the Russia drink the vodka from a buckets and all ride on bears....
I think you do not know about the oil pipeline Eastern Siberia - Pacific Ocean. Therefore not allowed to speak well about the Russia. It was being built from 2006 to 2009. Three thousand kilometers in four years on the road crazy. The Russia design equipments for underwater and under-ice oil and gas production for use the Arctic resources. After some time, your technology will not be needed for us. Did you know that The Russia signed the contract with Egypt on the construction of nuclear power plants? In addition, The Russia will give technologies to Egypt , as once to China. And in forum of St. Petersburg was signed on an agreement of intent with Saudi Arabia on the construction of 16 nuclear power block totaling 100 billion dollars. Go big change in the world. In addition, the world refuses calculations in dollars.

Putin wants to use only CHINESE WORKERS in Eastern Siberia? Putin want's to let them? In your head a lot of stereotypes and propaganda. Where have you heard this nonsense? The China wants to send Chinese workers in Siberia and after 100, 200 years to seize part of Siberia. We know that.

The Russia is in crisis and in the US it's all right. Do you know what the situation is now in the corporate debt market? Soon rates of corporate debt will rise. I think this will be the epicenter of an impending crisis. There will be many corporate failures. Yesterday I read the comments on the report of Standard & Poor's. Since the beginning of 2015 year already 52 bankruptcy. This is the level of 2009. 60% of all bankruptcies this is American firms. USA suffer to a greater extent. But this is only the beginning. Soon to be the first decline in the global economy. Sweet donuts prepared for the crisis?)))

 

Do not forget about gas hydrates. On Lake Baikal they lie open way and there are conducted studies for mining. And the main thing is the depth of only 50 meters.
In addition, there is hope in 2050 to master nuclear fusion. Then it will be profitable to fly to the back side of the moon for mining helium-3.

 

The Infrastructure in Western Siberia is almost NON-EXISTENT.

Putin want's to use CHINESE WORKERS to develop Eastern Siberia instead of Russian Workers because Chinese Worers work for much less than Russian Workers.

I mean....DOESN'T THAT UPSET YOU????

The vast amount of Oil and Natural Gas exists in Western Siveria not Eastern Siberia.

Putin has said there is NO WAY he would allow large numbers of Chinese Army PLA Engineers into Western Siberia.....and Putin said the same thing about Eastern Siberia but the Chinese Army PLA Engineers are already assessing things in Russia.

The U.S. WOULD NEVER allow another Nations Military into any part of the United States.....PERIOD!!!

Just remember WE WARNED YOU!!!

You are allowing the Army Engineers of China....a country that is DESPERATE FOR GAS AND OIL....to run and CONTROL SIBERIAN OIL AND GAS DEVELOPMENT!!!

CHINA....a Nation that cannot even build it's own AIRCRAFT CARRIER is who RUSSIA IS GOING TO TRUST TO DEVELOP SIBERIAN INFRASTRUCTURE??????

THIS IS INSANE!!!!

China does not have the experience, the Technology, the Engineers of Experience....the Oil and Natural Gas Drilling Teams....Super Cold Slant Drilling Technology which is only used by the U.S. and Canada....ahhh...it is disaster in the makings.

But HEY!!! It's you decision.

AND IT WILL BE YOUR MESS AFTERWARDS AND A HUGE MESS IT WILL BE!!!

You are placing the entire well being of the Russian People.....into the Hands of a Communist Nation that desperately wants OIL AND GAS.

The U.S. and Canada have no need of Russian Oil and Gas.

You are allowing China...a Nation with ZERO EXPERIENCE doing such a project into Russia.

The U.S. and Canada are the two Nations with the most experience doing such projects.

Allowing China and the Chinese Military PLA into Siberia to try to exploit Siberian Oil and Gas is like GIVING THE COMBINATION LOCK NUMBER OF YOUR HOME SAFE TO A CRACK ADDICT!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Let's see......the U.S. has a $17.7 Trillion Economy and it is estimated to increase up to $24.3 Trillion by 2023.

Russia had a $1.98 Trillion Economy last year and PUTIN estimates a MINIMUM DECINE IN THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY OF 5.5% TO 7.1%

U.S. estimates a decline as high as 9.7%....Credit Swiss estimates a Russian Decline in their Economy possibly as high as 12.5%....no lower than 7.1 %

YES.....Russia has a serious economic problem on it's hands!!!

The fact that PUTIN HIMSELF is on Russian TV TELLING YOU THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY WILL DECLINE BY A MINIMUM OF 5.5%....and you are IGNORING THIS FACT......shows me you are not interested in exploring ways to solve the problem or help Russia.

You only care about bashing the United States.

Which is unfortunate since we are your only hope of getting out of the economic disaster you are in!!

AboveAlpha

 

The most important thing for Russia right now is finding a way to PUT RUSSIAN'S BACK TO WORK BY CREATING JOBS!!!

I KNOW there is only ONE WAY to create 5 Million JOBS in 2 years in Russia. GOOD JOBS with GOOD PAY!!

And those initial 5 Million Good Jobs will generate another 20 Million New Jobs as Russia must develop PRIVATE INDUSTRY AND COMPANIES that will provide GOODS AND SERVICES to the 5 MILLION PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL PAID WITH NEW JOBS!!

The ONLY way to do this...because Russia and China cannot do it....is for Putin to sign the Russian/American Siberian Infrastructure Development and Oil and Gas Exploitation Program Agreement.

China will simply pay off Putin and his 110 Buddies and you will neither have new Russian Jobs nor will the Russian People see a Ruble of Profit from those new Oil and Gas Sales.

TIME TO WAKE UP!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Russia no afraid to Chinese friends. Russia and China conducted 40 years negotiations on disputed territories. And Putin eliminated this problem. Now between two countries, there is no territorial question. In difference from Japan...

And on the other side of Russia affairs go successfully.
The western businessmen (in difference of spiteful politicians) continue construction of joint projects with Russia. Desire the Kiev on transit of the Russian gas to Europe thaw in the eyes: after making decision on construction of "The Turkish stream" the demand of the Ukrainian GTS already appeared questionable. And after signing of the memorandum by Moscow with Shell, E.On and OMV about expansion of Nord Stream – completions of the third and fourth gas pipeline, the last illusions vanished finally.

 

Did you purposely just ignore Putin's own words??

Putin went on Russian TV and talked for an Hour about the difficult times that were ahead for average Russian's.

Putin estimated a MINIMUM of a 5.5% to 7.1% DECLINE IN THE RUSSIAN ECONOMY!!!

Since the Russian Economy is a TINY $1.98 Trillion last year.....and since the U.S. estimates the Russian Economic Decline at ossibly as high as 9.5% and CREDIT SWISS a very accurate and honest company estimates the Russian Economic Decline could be over 12%........YOU HAVE A BIG PROBLEM!!!

When a Nations Economy DECLINES....this is called a DEPRESSSION!!!

Whe a Nation's Economy slows down in growth but is still growing only at a lower than expected level this is called a RECESSION!!!

This is what happened back in 1929.

The Great Depression was a severe worldwide economic depression in the 1930s. The timing of the Great Depression varied across nations; however, in most countries it started in 1929 and lasted until the late 1930s.[1] It was the longest, deepest, and most widespread depression of the 20th century.[2]

Worldwide GDP fell by 15% from 1929 to 1932.[3] In the 21st century, the Great Depression is commonly used as an example of how far the world's economy can decline.[4] The depression originated in the United States, after the fall in stock prices that began around September 4, 1929, and became worldwide news with the stock market crash of October 29, 1929 (known as Black Tuesday).

Now the United States Economy is so massive and so interconnected to just about every Nation on the Planet....as the U.S. Economy goes so does the WORLD ECONOMY.....UNLESS....you are a Nation that has been isolated from the U.S. Economy and right now the U.S. Economy fueled by low Gasoline and low Oil and low Natural Gas and Energy Costs is set to BOOM.

Every Nation that is connected to the U.S. Economy will benefit and that is why HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS of Major Corporations all over the World are fighting to get in to the U.S. to set up Manufacturing Divisions.

With the added bonus of the U.S. becoming 100% Energy Self Sufficient by 2023 along with Canada.....will make the Economic Boom last longer and be more profitable for all involved.

Russia is not connected to the U.S. Economy.....China is....all of Europe is....South East Asia is.....just about every Nation on the PLANET is.....except Burma and Russia.

Russia Economists have URGED PUTIN to work things out with the U.S. as the only one who is going to get hurt here is Russia.

Russia holds no cards.....has no Ace in the Hole.....has no plan.

Time for you to WAKE UP!!!

There is only ONE NATION WILLING TO ACTUALLY HELP YOU THAT DOES NOT WANT TO STEAL YOUR OIL AND GAS.....that's the U.S. because we don't need it.

China will take and take and take and the average Russian will get poorer and poorer and China WILL NOT HELP RUSSIA CREATE JOBS!!!

Russia's Economy is 80% OIL AND GAS EXPORTS!!!

The U.S. would increase the Russian Economy in a way that there will be RUSSIAN PRIVATE COMPANIES SELLING GOODS AND SERVICES TO RUSSIAN PEOPLE WITH GOOD JOBS!!

Putin and China have no plans or intentions of doing this.

Russia's own worse enemy is their inability to SEE their leadership is SELLING THEM OUT!!!

AboveAlpha

 

I think we go to far from a discussion subject - MH17.

PS. In Russia now ''REORGANIZATION'' and it is better to discuss in other subject. Who has a desire. (Large Russian projects which are under construction now or are already constructed this year.part together with foreign investors-http://ruxpert.ru/Крупные_российские_проекты_(строящиес&#1103#.D0.97.D0.B0.D0.B2.D0.BE.D0.B4_.C2.AB.D0.9D.D0.BE.D0.B2.D0.B0.D1.80.D1.82.D0.B8.D1.81.C2.BB_.D0.B2_.D0.A1.D0.B0.D0.BD.D0.BA.D1.82-.D0.9F.D0.B5.D1.82.D0.B5.D1.80.D0.B1.D1.83.D1.80.D0.B3.D0.B5 also Recently, the government approved the list of the systemically important companies which will acquire the right to state support. Thus much appearing in the help don't need the list. In total list contains 199 organizations.

By preparation of the list indicators of annual revenue, tax contributions to budgets of all levels, the number of the personnel, and also existence of an essential share in the market and influence on social and economic stability in subjects of the Russian Federation were considered.
In the list also the wide range of exporters appears.http://economy.gov.ru/wps/wcm/connect/e08d2b67-3322-49a0-8530-0579e366e507/Список_организаций.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=e08d2b67-3322-49a0-8530-0579e366e507 etc.)

 

Why do you make your message so large? Write more compact!!!!!!!!
About the Chineses you write complete nonsense. The Chinese did not produce oil or gas on the territory of The Russia now. In the Russia there are companies from all the world. Therefore, if in the future company of China will be work in the Russia then this is good. You underestimate the possibility of "Gazprom", "Lukoil" and "Rosneft". In the Russia work Oil and Natural Gas Corporation Limited (ONGC- India), Total(France), British Petroleum(England), Sakhalin Oil and Gas Development Co., Ltd.(Japan) etc. We do not need your technology.

Can not be a revolution In the United States? You're naive.

 

How can you possibly feel good about Putin's Government deciding which Orgs get what?

In a Free Market System Privatization is necessary.

The more Government Control the less the average person will earn for themselves.

AboveAlpha

 

USA passed the red line. US made a coup in Ukraine and went to war to kill the Russians. I think so because Poroshenko, Yatseniuk etc are controled the United States.
A linear comparison of numbers is not suitable to assess the economy. When rates start to rise the economy will fall. It's unavoidable. The fight has just begun. You're hurry to do conclusions.

 

What to discuss? When a German plane dropped then the boxes was found in two days. Two days later they was deciphered and much became clear. Now Holland more than a year does not give any information. US and Europe do not care about the facts. They are in any case will blame The Russia.

 

Open other Threads - about evil Putin for example

 

The only thing anyone needs to know about Putin is his deep desire to feel POWERFUL and he often sets up these fake matches where Putin fights on TV some 19 to 20 year olf Kid who is proficient in whatever Martial Art Putin happens to be studying at the time and this KID is told to LOSE.

These matches if you live in Russia then you KNOW that have been broadcast on National TV.

So this KID who is probably a member of the Russian Military or a Spetsnaz Prospect is told to lose on TV and the kid does what he is told but just winning isn't enough for Putin.

Oh...no...Putin just does not want people see him win he wants people to see him WIN BIG!! I watched the last match and Putin broke this young kids wrist just to break it.

THAT IS ALL A PERSON NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT PUTIN!!

I have said this before and I will say it again.....I am not a Young Chicken but I would be more than HAPPY TO MEET PUTIN IN ANY RING ANY PLACE AND ANYTIME......and I will add one more thing this time.....I will allow my RIGHT ARM TO BE ZIP TIED TO A METAL CHAIN BELT to the side of my body so I canot strike with my right arm.

I offer this match and I will tell everyone here that Putin will not last longer than 15 seconds in the ring with me.

I used to say 10 seconds but after all I have one arm strapped down.

I promise I won't kill him but I will SERVE PUTIN UP A HUGE PLATE OF HUMILITY!!!!

I find it DISGUSTING that Putin not only fixes his matches but as well has a well known habit of causing serious injury to his opponent....a KID.....in the RUSSIAN MILITARY.....ONE OF PUTIN'S OWN!!!

Now any member here....YOU TELL ME....what does this say about Putin as a man?

AboveAlpha

 

May be necessary for Putin became cannibal it will be pleasant to you? I know, you like to be on friendly terms with cannibals!
[video=youtube_share;VjT0C3_lF6M]http://youtu.be/VjT0C3_lF6M[/video]

Anyway before calling Putin on a duel, can to you at first on Obama be trained? Look what he is the tough fulla, he ready to be in action.
[video=youtube_share;zy4VHAvgCWA]http://youtu.be/zy4VHAvgCWA[/video]

 

Obama is in good shape....so is Putin...but Putin was a trained operative for the KGB.

Now I have no problem with that but what I do have a problem with is Putin hurting the Russian Military KIDS that he has fixed the matches with as these kids are Military and 19 to 20 years old and Putin is allowed to win...OK...fine....but then Putin takes it one step too far and PHYSICALLY DAMAGES THESE KIDS as he had absolutely no reason or excuse to break the wrist of that last match against that KID they showed on TV....as for a Person to do that it shows they care more about themselves and care more about how people percieve them than they care about their Nation.

15 seconds....my Right Arm Zip Tied to a Waist Chain.....anytime....anywhere....and I am not a KID!!!

First thing I would do is watch Putin attempt a Leg Sweep and as he did I would jump up and come down and break one of his ankles...depending upon which leg he tried to sweep me off my feet with.

If he tried to come inside on my right side I would immediately allow him to get in one leg kick to my right side as Putin would target my Liver or Kindney or Ribs....I would take the force of the kick....grab his pants clothing...waist band or belt and pull him in closer....break his nose with the topof my skull....no where near at ful force as that would kill him....and I would them quickly turn to my left with my back to him grabbing his left leg if that is the one he kicked with which it would be with my right arm zip tied....place his heal over my left knee and use my right leg to dislocate his knee and break his leg.

Or.....I could just let him attack as he always will....and use my left Jab to break his nose and then use my right knee and left arm and hand to use my knee to strike him in the center of his forehead knocking him out.

Don't want to kill him.....just want to get some RETRIBUTION for all those Russian KIDS he hurt.

AboveAlpha

 

why are the Russians in Luhansk refusing access to cell towers?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/29/w...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

 

Maybe you mixed your TV with your dream? It happens. The person drinks beer, watches TV and falls asleep. It dream a dream. And when he wakes up, thinks that he watched the movie.