Russia caught lying again. Finally admits truth about MH17

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Because they STUPIDLY keep trying to make people think that a Ukrainian Su-25 with R-60 Rockets shot down the Boeing 777....which is IMPOSSIBLE by the way.

    Putin is usually slick but he should have just come clean on this one.

    From what I have been told there is more to the story than I originally thought.

    Russian Recon. Aircraft Photography was misread and some high ranking member of Spetsnaz who are Russian Special Forces and started this whole thing by paying out a lot of AMERICAN MONEY to Russian Speaking Crimeans and then giving them Advanced Weapons like the BUK SAM Launcher.....this High Ranking Member of Spetsnaz did not get clearence from Putin make it appear as if a Ukrainian BUK shot down the MH17 777 except right after it was downed the thing they thought was a Ukrianian BUK SAM Launcher WAS SOMETHING ELSE!!~

    That's why the idiotic story about the Ukrainaian Su-25 which cannot shoot down a Boeing 777 traveling at 550 mph at 33,000 feet.

    The Seperatists were set up by Spetsnaz....told to fire...they fired....we trcked the Missile from where it was fired to hitting the ML17 Boeing 777.....the NSA released the Transcripts and the NSA didn't even want to do that!!

    Basically this was a SCREW UP OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!!

    No Ukrainian BUK Operator who is well trained is going to mistake a 777 flying that high and that fast for anything else
     
  2. Kiwi33

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    I heard, one east official told for DNR, "I think your DNR people not extremely naïve that trust '' to west in one of the most open and dangerous crime scenes in the world," which under the guise of investigation will put spy devices and give it in CIA...
    the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the delicate politics of the inquiry.:omg:
     
  3. AboveAlpha

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    You think I am joking?

    I am not.

    AboveAlpha
     
  4. DonRumataEstorsky

    DonRumataEstorsky Banned

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    I think you're stupid minor. You write such nonsense ..... You bark on Putin like a small mutt.

    I am glad that I spent my time on learning English and now I can assess the situation. Such blunt propaganda how in the United States was not even in the USSR. Anchor in ass USA.
     
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    DonRumataEstorsky Banned

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    I am pleased that the US president stupid.
    [video=youtube;oxSmvjylTVo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxSmvjylTVo[/video]

    I hope that next year, the American people will choose the same blunt. Who will it be? Clinton №2 or Bush №3????)))))
     
  6. Kiwi33

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    No, you simply told lies. Sometimes such happens to you.
     
  7. AboveAlpha

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    Told lies about what?

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  8. Kiwi33

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    You already forgot? AboveAlpha I start worry about you. You precisely didn't drink yesterday beer?:frown:
    Why such false nothing the confirmed promotion?
     
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    Russia contradict oneself in one's evidence, this is typical for a criminal who tells a lie to avoid responsibility.
     
  10. AboveAlpha

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    OK....IF...you lived in Russia you would know Putin has such matches covered by the news.

    But you don't...do you? LOL!!!

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  11. Kiwi33

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    Here to you news channels in Russia. Enjoy - watch and don't lie more.
    http://www.glaz.tv/online-tv/
    Now I watch http://www.glaz.tv/online-tv/rossiya-1
    Russia to Ukraine again gas was disconnected. They don't have money to pay. Why you don't help the younger brothers to pay off?:smile:
     
  12. AboveAlpha

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    HA!!! LOL!!!!

    RUSSIAN PUTIN CONTROLLED MEDIA!!!???

    THAT is the source you supply???

    Why don't you just get a VIDEO of the Russian Military Guy's holding GUN'S to these people's heads while they broadcast the news!!!??? LOL!!!

    GET A CLUE!!!

    STATE CONTROLLED MEDIA TELLS THE STORIES THAT PUTIN WANT'S THEM TO TELL!!!

    I don't really even need to reply to this as you have made your reply into A BIGGER BUNCH OF CRAP AND THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER!!!

    Do you HONESTLY THINK that ANYONE including RUSSIAN FAMILIES believe a single thing coming out of the mouths these people say??

    What a JOKE!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    You told lies, and I have to look for a source? BUHA HA.:roflol:
    What there with gas? Ukrainian junta your younger brothers? Why you don't help them to pay for gas?
     
  14. AboveAlpha

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    OK...you have to get better translation software because you reply above makes absolutely no sense and is impossible to understand.

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. Kiwi33

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    Nothing to do with my translation (i try not use it) I asked you questions about Ukraine. You don't answer for it.

    PS: The Russian news can also be watched in any country of the world (I recommended links for you)
     
  16. AboveAlpha

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    I used to watch the Russian News all the time when I was in Russia when the news was not controlled by Putin.

    RT is now just a JOKE!!!

    This is an article from the New York Times.

    Without Notice, Putin Dissolves a News Agency

    By STEVEN LEE MYERSDEC. 9, 2013
    MOSCOW — President Vladimir V. Putin exerted new control over Russia’s state news media on Monday, dissolving by decree one of Russia’s official news agencies, RIA Novosti, along with its international radio broadcaster as he continues a drive to strengthen the Kremlin’s influence at home and abroad.
    The decision shutters a decades-old state-run news agency widely viewed as offering professional and semi-independent coverage, while putting a reconstituted news service in the hands of a Kremlin loyalist. Since returning for a third time as president last year, Mr. Putin has taken several steps that critics have denounced as a strangulation of political rights and open debate, concentrating power in an ever tighter circle of allies.

    All you are doing Kiwi is LYING TO YOURSELF!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  17. Kiwi33

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    I ask the third time. Why you don't help your younger brothers - the Ukrainian junta, to pay for gas? The with weapon you help, but to support economy not. I find it Strange.
     
  18. AboveAlpha

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    I have been to the Ukraine as well I have been to Georgia, Azerbaijan, both the Soviet Union Russia and Democratic Russia and then back to a Russian Dictatorship.

    The United States and Russia had a DEAL.....Putin broke that deal.

    The U.S. is trying hard and is working with several of Putin's former KGB and GRU Buddies as I had a very good relationship with 3 Members of the GRU back in the early and mid 1980's after the whole Soviet Leader Yuri Andropov debacle when Andropov the former KGB Chief under Brezhnev and Andropov was sick and dying when he took over as the new Soviet Leader when Brezhnev died.

    The KGB KNEW that allowing Andropov to become the new Soviet Leader WAS A HUGE MISTAKE as Andropov was showing signs of being Delusional as he was very ill back when he was still head of the KGB.

    Andropov became so sick he actually thought that the announced over a YEAR in advance NATO Military Exercise named ABLE ARCHER 83....was going to be an actual FIRST STRIKE WITH NUCLEAR WEAPONS upon the Soviet Union by the U.S. and NATO as Reagan was in Office.

    Unfortunately Andropov still had a lot of pull being a former KGB Chief and as Andropov kept to hismself over a 2 year period just before Brezhnev died.....many in the KGB and GRU had NO IDEA just how sick and delusional Andropov had become.

    We....the U.S.....had absolutely NO IDEA....that Andropov has convinced many in the Russian Military, GRU and KGB that Able Archer 83 was going to be an ACTUAL NUCLEAR FIRST STRIKE BY THE U.S. AND NATO!!

    Because of the Soviet Deployment of the Mobile SS-20's on December 12, 1979, the military commander of NATO decided to deploy 572 new nuclear missiles in Western Europe: 108 Pershing II Missiles and 464 Ground Launched Cruise Missiles. Of the cruise missiles, 160 were to be placed in England, 96 in West Germany, 112 in Italy (on Sicily), 48 in the Netherlands, and 48 in Belgium. All 108 Pershing II missiles were to be emplaced in West Germany starting in November 1983.

    The PERSHING II's were what Andropov feared the most as they were so accurate....actual DIRECT HITS IN TESTING WERE ESTABLISHED and although a Direct Strike was considered anything in a 100 foot or 30 Meter in Diameter circle....Pershing II's in Testing were ACTUALLY STRIKING DEAD CENTER OF THIS TARGET and the Pershing II's were not only suer accurate they were also SUPER FAST and could take out SOVIET AND MOSCOW COMMAND AND CONTROL FASTER THAN THE SOVIET'S COULD RESPOND WITH LANCH CODES as the Pershing II's were stationd in East Germany.

    Andropov was so delusional he had convinced himself and others that the U.S. had already deployed the Pershing II's even though deployment was to begin in November of 83.

    Able Archer 83 was a ten-day North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) command post exercise starting on November 2, 1983 and it is said only a few Pershing II's had just been deployed.

    It was the KGB that learned through one of Andropov's Aid's that Andropov told this Aid that he would go down in History as the Soviet Leader who destroyed the U.S. and NATO.

    The KGB was coming up to us in BROAD DAYLIGHT in West Berlin telling us...."We BOTH have a BIG PROBLEM!!"

    It seemed that even the KGB was having a difficult time stopping the insanity of a Soviet Nuclear Launch ordered by Andropov against NATO and the U.S. and the world almost came to an end within 45 seconds.

    After that I was tasted to go to Russia and develop BACK CHANNEL COMMUNICATION as the Red Phone Communication already existed after the Cuban Missile Crisis.....so this Back Channel Communication was developed so that members of the KGB and GRU could talk to the CIA and NSA to prevent some sick and delusional LEADER on eaither side from ever bringing the Human Race to the BRINK OF EXTINCTION!!!

    Now.....those of us who were YOUNG on both sides back then are trying to once again develop a sightly different form of communication as this BREAK DOWN between the U.S. and Russia has GONE FAR ENOUGH!!!

    Putin has brought Russia to the edge of Economic Oblivion and we have to make sure OUR LEADERS DON'T PUSH PUTIN OVER THE CLIFF because THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR WHAT IS GOING ON other than ONE MAN....and 110 THIEVES are steeling the wealth of Russia right out from under the people and if the U.S. and Canada were to once again FLOOD THE OIL MARKET.....this time the Russian Economy would completely collapse and we don't want that.

    AboveAlpha
     

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