Satellites Show 17 Years of No Warming

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    While in Scotland, one of the largest cars I saw over there was the Ford Fiesta.
     
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    You are still missing the point.

    Most of the world is not Europe, any more then it is the United States. The continent with the highest population is Asia. And the cars there are much smaller on average then Europe or the Americas.

    Do you want an example of a "big car" in Japan?

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    This is the Toyota Starlet, the same car I drove in Japan for 6 months. And this is considered a big car over there. The majority were akin to the size of the Suzuki Cutlas (what we called the Swift, Geo Metro or Chevy Sprint). And this continues to motorcycles as well.

    Most people are completely unaware that Japan has a law limiting the engine sizes of motorcycles. You can't buy any motorcycle with an engine over 400cc. This is why the "pocket bike" is so big over there. They saw the Ninjas and Katanas and other sport bikes the US had, and wanted them also. But they were not allowed to buy the 900-1200cc monsters we had, so they made micromodels for the domestic market.

    And US servicemembers are exempt from this requirement, so long as they take their bikes back out of the country when they leave, or sell them to another servicemember. So larger bikes always get attention, because they are so rare to see.
     
  3. wyly

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    well nonsense to your nonsense...30% of Ford F150 sold are Fleet sales, and the vast majority of the remaining are sold to contractors, farmers and for towing recreational toys...as a personal vehicle pickups are not very popular...quad/crew cabs are cost saving, most families don't want the expense of having a third vehicle sitting in the driveway 99% pf the time...my wife has a van and I have a quad for work to store tools in the cab and occasionally haul the family, a cheaper option than financing a third family car that never moves...

    it's still cherry picking regardless who made it but you took ownership when you posted it...

    no engines have gotten smaller and more efficient producing better performance...my truck with the same displacement as 60's muscle cars has better performance than most of those cars moving a far larger mass, that's more power on the same amount of fuel, so ya better fuel economy and performance...


    in 1979 my Honda put out 105hp from 1000 cc that's still Super car performance today...today's cars have merely adopted the higher standards of motorcycles squeezing more power out available displacement..even beasts like the Goldwings were high performance...cars of the day were crude and primitive in comparison...
     
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    china is the biggest car market in Asia 250 million cars, and size is not an issue, SUV's, full size sedans the full range, it's a matter of cash/economics that determine what they drive...



    okay we can end this conversation you obviously don't know as much as you think...ford doesn't build right hand drive,wrong, ford isn't popular in England, very wrong and now Japanese aren't allowed to ride bikes over 400cc, waaaay wrong...there are three different license/registration for bikes in Japan, 50cc, 250cc, over 400cc, and they're not restricted to foreigners...Harley-Davidson sold 15,000 bikes in Japan in 2008 and I can guarantee none were under 400cc...and then there's the Japan Goldwing club, how many cc's are Goldwings?...Japan CBX Club? yeah 1050cc, so much for no bikes between 900 and 1200cc for Japanese riders...
     
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    And your point is? Perhaps that Scotsmen do not need to display
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is that the Ford Fiesta was the largest car I saw in Scotland.
     
  7. Mushroom

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    Reference to back that up?

    Trust me, I look down the street I live in, and 2/3 of the houses have a pickup, SUV or both. And driving to and from work every day, well over half of the vehicles I pass are pickups or SUVs. They are especially popular in the Bay Area, as you can toss in the bed your skis, your kayak, your mountain bikes, your dirt bike, your surfboard, or anything else you want to take to the beach-mountains.

    The problem is that you are trying to get people to conform to your personal beliefs. That is wrong, people do not believe like you do, they believe like they do. And unless you can back up those figures with some kind of facts, it is pointless to try and claim that the vast majority of car sales in the US are fleet sales.
     
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    And my point is that culture has a lot to do with car choices.
     
  9. politicalcenter

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    I have a small pickup truck for the stuff I need to haul, a livestock trailer for the pickup, a motorcycle for fun....but my auto is a little 4 cylinder KIA.

    I drive the little KIA (mostly) because it is real good on gas. But here in the south just about everyone has a pickup truck because it is part of the culture. A man just ain't a man unless he has a truck.
     
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    I have a Summer vehicle and Winter vehicle. Winter is a 4 liter 4x4 and Summer is a little 1.3 liter 4 door. Both get about the same mileage, from 12 to 18 mpg. I also have a Motorcycle and another 4x4 for off road and another car I bought for my daughter to drive. I don't think I have ever had less than two vehicles at any one time but mostly because I was poor for most of my life and had two beaters so when one broke down I could use the other.
     
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    I hear ya. I never like having just one ride. My pickup is needed to haul things I need around the place. Gonna get a load of sand this weekend for my new bluegill pond and i am always hauling material from work (like old pallets, oak 4x4's etc). I also have to use it to haul feed for the monsters(animals) around the farm.
     
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    and do a image search on traffic in scotland and there is no shortage of vehicles larger than a fiesta on scottish roads, another BS claim by hoosier...
     
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    so now you want to change it up "or SUVs" sorry no it was pickups...you have no idea what those pickup owners do for a living and their vehicle requirements that's purely conjecture...i look up and down my street and I'm not aware know of a single neighbour that doesn't require a pickup for work related use, they may see double use as personal transportation or for recreational use but their initial use is work related...it's fact 30% of Fords pickups are fleet sales and the others manufacturers will have similar numbers, and those numbers will be smaller than sales driven by owner driven/supplied in construction and farming industries...

    and you're doing exactly that...no motorcycles for Japanese over 400cc, a invention out of your own mind...where are your figures to back up your invented facts?
     
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    Ive never met a farmer or rancher who didn't require a pickup, it's an essential tool for the job...the same applies to the construction industry...for many it's cheaper to own a truck with a crewcab than have a pickup and a separate car for family use, mrs wyly had a car for her work, we had a shared family van and exclusive work van for myself, we sold the car and work van and replaced both with a crewcab pickup...
     
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    Nonsense. It cant be why I bought a white toyota corolla. :D

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    Seriously?
     
  16. wyly

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    and how is that white corolla? ...corollas are on my daughters shopping list this week her Oldsmobile died from premature old age (it was crap)...corolla vs mazda3 vs honda civic vs hyundai elantra vs vw golf, it's very confusing ...
     

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