Science and Math and Computer Science Most Important to Learn

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  1. AboveAlpha

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    The people over the years who have been selected to become members of my Team....and yes it is MY TEAM...after doing JOBS under another for 14 months I was allowed to pick my own Team.

    We make certain to have the very best the U.S. Military and Bitish and Aussie SAS have as well.

    We get to an MEET AND GREET area days in advance and if we are not sure...we send in a two advanced groups each with two Team Members equipped with Quanrapod M82 Barrel .50 Cals with Enhanced Digital Video Computer Pix at a ratio of 120 to 1 of what is currently being used.

    The M82 has taken down target at over 2 miles now but I am not so crazy as I like to set them up within 1000 to 1200 meters if possible.

    And if I could hide them closer than that I would.

    I am sorry if I went off like that.

    It is a very touchy subject.

    My idea of a JOB WELL DONE...is when everyone on all sides get's to goo home very much alive.

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    I take issue with much of your explanation but it's irrelevant to my main point. My point is merely to point out that it is a pure numbers explanation. If the same percentage of women went into these fields of study as the percentage of men, then I don't think a lack of science/math knowledge would colloquially be a thing in common society. Not that I'm saying women are responsible for this ignorance, just that the lack of influence from woman in any given field is noticeable. Not that women don't know math, but women knowing math would influence everyone, especially reared males.

    This is fun. Thank you for drawing me into a conversation where I sound like a bald faced sexist. :blankstare:
     
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    Believe me on this one.

    ISIS started and expanded to a top number of about 24,000.

    We degraded that number to about 18,000.

    The Shiites degrades then another 1000.

    They were used by another part AND BY US!!!

    The plan was...and it was NOT my plan....was to use a small number of poorly trained crazies to effect a change we had been trying to get done for years!!!

    We wanted Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki....this SHIA A$$#@!E.....who purged the entire Iraqi Military of all Sunni Officers as well as purged all Sunni Government Officials upon a regional, provice and Government Level as Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki....being Shia wanted only Shiites in control.

    We were to allow the ISIS to become a THREAT.....and then when Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki stepped down....we were to come in IMMEDIATELY and IRADICATE THE ISIS!!!

    They waited 2 weeks too long...why I have no idea.

    Now they are spread out all over but they are still TINY IN NUMBER!!

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    DUDE!!! YOU DO SOUND LIKE A BALD FACE SEXIST!! LOL!!!

    Thing is...I am not talking about Higher Mathematics...I am talking about Addition, Subtraction Multiplication, Division, Percentages, Fractions....etc.

    I am not talking about Calculus here!!!

    This is stuff I learned from Kindergarden to 3rd Grade!!!

    HELL!!! I was taking Introduction to Algebra in 5th Grade!!!

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    I've not been there. So, whatever I hear about events I have to remember that I really have no way of knowing what such a situation would even be like, let alone have a valid opinion on whether it happened. So, I don't dispute what is said about events. I hoped the Warizistan thing was a typo.

    My war would have been Vietnam, save for being in school and then "winning" the first draft lottery. I had friends that went and all came back ok, all but one without injury. If there ever was a use for the "f word", that war was it.

    And, it just seems to me that we didn't learn some of the things we really needed to learn from that.
     
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    What I know is classified. But hey, feel free to tell us what unit you were in. When were you in Afghanistan last and what operation did you run? Put up or shut up.
     
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    There was only a HANDFUL OF TEAMS that were allowed to enter Waziristan and that OP was MY BABY!!

    If you can answer any one of these three questions which can be Googled if one knows what they are looking for....then perhaps you might garnish some of my interest.

    #1. Define GUESTSHIP given by a Waziristan Tribal Leader or Leaders and what it means?

    #2. At what time of the year did our Teams have to travel from Afghanistan to Waziristan?

    #3. What did our Teams offer to these Tribal Leaders that allowed us to obtain GUESTSHIP and as I might have posted this before....WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING THEY ASKED FOR?

    If you can answer any one of these 3 question correctly or ven CLOSE TO CORRECT....I will continue to discuss this with you more.

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    Yes, we chose Maliki - the guy who worked with us so effectively to disenfranchise Sunnis - our program of "deBaathification".

    The rest is nonsense. If our plan was to go in, Bush wouldn't have signed us out. And, even before Maliki left the Pentagon stated that we needed Sunni help against ISIS - and we didn't do anything to get that help.

    Two weeks is irrelevant. We didn't do enough for several years. Our whole "nation building" program was never seriously considered. Colin Powell had that job, but Rumsfeld got Bush to reassign it to himself. Powell magnanimously offered Rumsfeld his state department experts who had been working on the post war plan and Rumsfeld told Powell to stuff it. In the end? Stupid mistake after stupid mistake, with perhaps the only bright spot being the point where we actually gained Sunni trust for a while so we could work together to remove AQ.

    Don't be overly fooled by the numbers. They certainly are small and aren't going to win any significant direct conflict, but they are making about a million dollars per day on oil alone and have an entire Sunni economy behind them. Plus, Sunnis are involved in civil administration again and aren't likely to appreciate being killed by the army of Iraq, by Shiite militias, by US bombing raids, by Iran, or by anyone else that wants to kill Sunnis.
     
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    You do understand there is a line which I cannot go past discussing certain things here...right?

    AboveAlpha

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    I was AGAINST the Inavsion of Iraq as I knew just as Bush Sr. KNEW that as brutal and repressive Saddam was...he was the only thing preventing a Sunni/Shia Civil War.

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    Oh wow, this is so tough. #1 Guestship is not a Pashto, Urdu, or Dari word. #2 You had no team. #3 You had no team.

    Now answer my questions.
     
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    OK....I tried to play nice...now for your whopping!

    On it's way....
     
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    Oh no! Is this like the last whopping when you told me velocity is the same as acceleration?

    That's not whopping, that's a whopper.
     
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    This is the way the CIA began it's thinking.....

    Haqqani: From US guests of honour to enemies
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    Written by Reuters | Islamabad | Published on:May 31, 2011 2:41 pm
    Pakistan is gearing up for a military offensive against North Waziristan,a local newspaper reported,an operation that would pit the army against some of the world’s most dangerous militants in the tribal region along the Afghan border.

    Washington will push Pakistan to eliminate the Haqqani network — which is based in North Waziristan and is one of its fiercest enemies just across the border in Afghanistan — in any North Waziristan operation.

    While the Pakistani military has launched major offensives in other regions in its unruly tribal belt,it has been hesitant to attack North Waziristan,which could pose the biggest risk.

    Here are some important facts about the Haqqani network:

    WHAT IS THE HAQQANI NETWORK?
    Named after its leader Jalaluddin Haqqani,it is one of three and perhaps the most feared,of the Taliban-allied insurgent factions fighting US-led NATO and Afghan troops in Afghanistan.

    Jalaluddin gained notoriety as an anti-Soviet mujahideen commander in Afghanistan in the 1980s. His bravery and ability to organise mujahideen fighters won him funding and weapons from US and Pakistani intelligence services and Saudi Arabia.

    Former US Congressman Charlie Wilson,who fund-raised for the Afghan resistance,once called Jalaluddin goodness personified. The warrior was held in such high esteem he visited the White House when Ronald Reagan was President.

    After the US invasion of Afghanistan in 2001,Haqqani turned his ferocity and battle skills on Western forces. He earned a top spot on the CIA hit list,along with his old friend Osama bin Laden,whom he met during the anti-Soviet resistance.

    Despite ill health,Jalaluddin,who is in his 70s,still inspires Haqqani foot soldiers believed to number up to 4,000,as well as other militant groups who revere him. His son Siraj,seen as more ruthless,runs the daily affairs of the network.

    WHERE DO THE HAQQANIS OPERATE?
    The Haqqanis are ethnic Pashtuns from the Zadran tribe in southeastern Afghanistan’s Paktia province. The group is active across much of southeastern Afghanistan and seeks to regain full control over its traditional bases in Khost,Paktia and Paktika provinces.

    The Haqqanis are thought to have introduced suicide bombing to Afghanistan. They are believed to have been behind several high-profile attacks in Afghanistan including a raid on Kabul’s top hotel,an assassination attempt on President Hamid Karzai and a suicide attack on the Indian embassy.

    The Haqqanis are based in North Waziristan,although they have been heavily targeted in recent months by missiles fired from pilotless US drone aircraft.

    WHY DOES PAKISTAN ALLOW THEM TO STAY IN NORTH WAZIRISTAN?
    The Haqqanis have become one of the biggest sources of tension between allies Washington and Islamabad. Pakistan has denied supporting the Haqqanis but has long resisted US pressure to launch a full-scale offensive in Waziristan to crush the network for both domestic and foreign policy reasons.

    As one of the most powerful insurgent groups in Afghanistan,the Haqqanis could act as a spoiler if Pakistan feels its interests are threatened in any settlement to the ten-year war. It also sees the Haqqanis as the best insurance policy against the growing influence of rival India in Afghanistan. But caving in to Washington and attacking the Haqqanis could further destabilise Pakistan.

    The armed forces are already stretched fighting a nexus of dangerous homegrown militants — both Taliban and other groups — who have found shelter in Haqqani-controlled territory and in return for an unofficial protective shield.

    “They see him (Jalaluddin) as the Guardian of the al Qaeda forces in this region. If Pakistani troops launch an all-out attack on the Haqqani network that would mean upsetting the hornet’s nest”,said Imtiaz Gul,author of The Most Dangerous Place: Pakistan’s Lawless Frontier.

    WOULD THE HAQQANIS FIT INTO ANY AFGHAN PEACE SETTLEMENT?
    Pakistan hopes the United States will eventually welcome the participation of the Haqqanis in any Afghan peace talks. Kabul also understands the group can’t be excluded.

    Although the Haqqanis fall under the command of Taliban leader Mullah Omar,US officials believe they do not always accept Taliban authority and can act independently. Jalaluddin has historically shown a penchant for changing sides,as the Americans know all too well,and he may be more flexible than the hardline Siraj.

    Washington is scrambling to bring stability to Afghanistan before its gradual withdrawal in July of 2011. Striking a deal with the Haqqanis may be wise while the ailing Jalaluddin might still have a say.

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    As we began to study and understand......

    Customs and Traditions

    Customs and traditions play a vital role in the social life of any community. The culture of the members of a community and their way of life is identified by their customs and traditions. Customs, from birth to death and even after the death are of an integral part of the life of Pakistani people. But Pushtoons, as having firm and stern nature, are particularly strict in observing their customs and traditions, which has come down to them through centuries.

    Pashtunwali refers to the traditional lifestyle of the Pashtun people, which is also regarded as an ancient honor code or a non-written law for its people. Though Pashtunwali is believed to date back to pre-Islamic period, its usage or practice does not contravene basic Islamic principles.

    Pashtunwali is literally translated as "the way of the Pashtun". It has no meaning in the West or in most other parts of the globe, but in the villages and clans along the border it means everything. It defines them from birth. It also has meaning to the foreign soldiers that have entered to tame and control this region for generations before they were pushed out of the Pashtuns homelands. Pushtunwali, a legal and moral code that determines social order and responsibilities. It contains sets of values pertaining to honor (namuz), solidarity (nang), hospitality, mutual support, shame and revenge which determines social order and individual responsibility. The defense of namuz, even unto death, is obligatory for every Pashtun. Elements in this code of behavior are often in opposition to the Shariah law, but it is their code that sets precedent over any other law. The Pashtun are an ethnic group with an estimated 15 million people located in Southeastern Afghanistan and Northwestern Pakistan.They have a complex organization of over 60 tribes broken down into clans and even into sub-clans.

    Pakhtunwali manages all social and internal affairs of the Pakhtun society manifest in Melmastia (hospitality), Nanawatai (sanctuary), nang (Honour), ghairat (self respect), panahwarkawal (providing shelter), azizwaeei/ khpelwulee (regard for relationships), kher-khegara (welfare), gwanditob (regard for neighbour), ashar (collective, cooperative work), ooga-warkawal (helping persons in need), and saree-tob (Manhood/chivalry), etc. it also represents a democratic structure through jirga (council of elders), sialy (competition) and brabaree (equality). It ia dense system in terms of serrishta, lashka, badragga (tribal escort), chalweshti (tribal force), mlatar (patrons), chagha (call for action), soolah (concilaition), rogha (reconciliation), and others. It is legal syatem in terms of jirga, nerkh (precedent, customary law), riwaj (body of traditional law), teega (truce), nagha (tribal fine), etc.

    It governs, guides and balances the form, character, and discipline of the Pathans’ way of life. It is an all embracing social code which encompasses the laws, customs, traditions and ethos of the Pakhtun society. This explains the crucial importance of Pakhtunwali in the lives of the Pakhtuns. A tapah says that:

    Pa Pukhtu ting Puhktun walaar day
    Bey Pukhtu nah mani Pukhtun merah Pukhtunah

    Translation: The Pukhtun stands firmly on Pukhtu
    The Pukhtun wife does not accept a Pukhtun husband who has no Pukhtu


    In the life there are many occasions when seems bound to follow these traditions. Some of the prominent traditions of the main tribes in Waziristan are listed below.



    Badal


    To my mind death is better than life
    when life can no longer be held with honour
    (Khushal Khan Khattak)


    Self-respect and sensitivity to insult is another essential trait of Pukhtoon character. The poorest among them has his own sense of dignity and honour and he vehemently refuses to submit to any insult. In fact every Pukhtoon considers himself equal if not better than his fellow tribesmen and an insult is, therefore, taken as scurrilous reflection on his character. An insult is sure to evoke insult and murder is likely to lead to a murder.

    Badal (retaliation) and blood feuds generally emanate from intrigue with women, murder of one of the family members or their hamsayas, violation of Badragga, slight personal injury or insult or damage to property. Any insult is generally resented and retaliation is exacted in such cases.

    A Pukhtoon believes and acts in accordance with the principles of Islamic Law i.e. an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth and blood for blood. He wipes out insult with insult regardless of cost or consequence and vindicates his honour by wiping out disgrace with a suitable action. But the urge for Badal does not mean that he is savage, blood thirsty or devoid of humane qualities. He is kind, affectionate, friendly and magnanimous and forgives any one who kills his relatives by a mistake but he will not allow any intentional murder go unavenged. Proud of his descent, he becomes offensive only when an insult is hurled at him or some injury is done to him deliberately. He goes in search of his enemy, scans the surrounding area and hills, lies in wait for months and years, undergoes all hardships but does not feel content till his efforts of wreaking vengeance on his enemy are crowned with success. Those who fail to fulfil the obligations of Pukhto (self-respect) by wiping out insult with insult, lose their prestige in the eyes of their compatriots, render themselves liable to Paighore (reproach) and earn an unfair name. According to Nang-e-Pakhto or code of honour an unavenged injury is the deepest shame and the honour of the person can be redeemed only by a similar action. It may, however, be noted that "there is little if any random crime or violence" in the tribal areas as the stakes are too high and the retribution too certain to follow.

    Sometimes a Pukhtoon becomes so sentimental that he vows not to take a meal with his right hand and sleep on ground instead of a charpaee (bedstead) until he has avenged the wrong done to him. Pukhtoon history is replete with many examples of Badal and there are instances where a child born a few months even after the murder of his father has, wreaked vengeance on his enemy after patiently waiting for many years.

    The obligation of Badal rests with the aggrieved party and it can be discharged only by action against the aggressor or his family. In most cases the aggressor is paid in the same coin. If no opportunity presents itself "he may defer his revenge for years, but it is disgraceful to neglect or abandon it entirely, and it is incumbent on his relations, and sometimes on his tribe, to assist him in his retaliation". When a Pukhtoon discovers that his dishonour is generally known, he prefers to die an honourable death rather than live a life of disgrace. He exercises the right of retribution with scant regard for hanging and transportation and only feels contented after avenging the insult. Badal resulted in blood feuds and vendetta in the past, but now due to the prevalent peaceful conditions in the tribal area and with the spread of education, the incidence of Badal are few and far between.

    However, the system is not without safety valves. Conciliatory forces like the jirga make efforts to tone down the reprisal or reparations trough jirga or nanwatay and such other quid pro quos as swara.

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    Nanawatay

    As stated earlier badal is one of the foremost codes, rules, regulations and commandments of Pukhtu and under badal beside other things, the wrong done or the murder committed is to be avenged. A negative aspect of this is that it leads to unending bloodshed. As stated earlier there are certain ways and means or codes of Pukhtu under which conciliation can be effected and the would-be bloodshed could be avoided in peaceful manner. One of such ways and means or rules of Pukhtu is nanawatay.

    The word nanawatay literally means” going in” or entering into someone’s house or Hujra. It is supplication for mercy and forgiveness through surrender before the other party. In case the guilty party or the one who did the wrong, wants to bring an end to the bloodshed and dispute in peaceful way before the badal is taken the party or individual has to go to the enemy, admit the guilt, express shame and unlikeness for, throw themselves/himself or the guilty one on the mercy of the enemy and seek pardon. This is known as nanawatay. It is a sort of repentance. To express more regret on the wrong done and to give great esteem to the aggrieved side, the party who resorts to nanawatay can also send or bring with them their women; the women could also be unveiled called sartor sar; can bring Holy Quran; and also have a rope in the neck called "paray pah ghaarah tlal (going with the rope in the neck).
    If the aggrieved party accepts the repentance and agrees to renounce the right of badal, nanawatay is thus honoured, a jargah is held, conciliation effected, and the matter settles peacefully. Although nanawatay, "is surrender rather than sanctuary", as also stated by James W. Spain, it is required of the aggrieved party to honour and accept it James Spain asserts that "it is a 'going in' or a 'giving in' to an enemy, carrying with it a connotation of great shame for the one who undertakes it and no obligation to accept it on the part of the one to whom it is offered." Moreover, it is certainly considered an obligation "on the part of the one to whom it is offered" to honour the nanawatay, and there is no doubt that "the honour of the party solicited . . . incur a stain" if it fails to honour the nanawatay.



    Nang

    Nang means honour, but the English word honour does not give the meaning and sense the Pukhtu word nang has. Being an important component of Pukhtu, nang has played vital role in the lives of the Pukhtuns in various shapes, but its foremost important role is in preserving the national honour and independence. It is nang that has compelled the Pukhtuns to take up arms for the protection of the homeland and national honour, when they are at stake; and also to retain personal, family's, beloved's, friends', sub-tribe's and tribe's esteem. It is required of a Pukhtun to be nangyaalay, meaning to possess nang, and to behave in a manner that is required of him in different circumstances and occasions. Khushal Khan Khattak says that:

    Pah jahaan da nangyaali di daa dwah kaarah
    Yaa bah ukhri kakarai yaa bah kaamraan shi

    Although Nang is basically a personal matter, it has also assumed various ancillary form including Tor and Speen (meaning black and white i.e. guilty or not guilty). The term Tor is often applied to a woman suspected of illicit relations with a man and they both may be killed.

    A nangyaalay is honoured and esteemed. Whereas ignoring and keeping aside nang is regarded beynangi, and is looked down upon. A person who has no nang is considered worthless. A tapah says that:

    Pah Hindustan dey saley joor shah
    Da bey nangai awaaz dey raa mah shah mayanah

    The above quoted and such other verses and tapahs show how nang is regarded as playing a very important role in the lives of Pukhtuns.



    Ghairat

    Ghairat means zeal. To keep on one's own and his tribe's prestige, one has to be zealous, courageous and somewhat heedless. The one who is not zealous and courageous may come under the chapaw of others. Ghairat is a part of namus and it is said that if one has no ghairat he cannot keep his namus. Calling one Beghairat (unzealous) is insult equal to calling names. Nobody has the right to call other one as Beghairat. Ghairat does not only concern men;women also must have Ghairat. Ghairat is often tinged with fanaticism yet it helps to preserve the tribal system and is an integralcomponent of Pakhtunwali.


    Namoos

    Literally, namus means chatity but in common usage it means 'woman'. Guarding the chastity of women is guarding namus. Wife, mother, sister and daughter froms the sequence in the order of namus. Even a new born girl, still in the cradle, is included in the namus. Disrespect for someone's namus is a grave crime and cannot be paradoned at all. The oral insult to someone's namus brings charges of nagha and sharam. In the westerntribes the agricitural land is also considered namus. In this case namus implies great patriotism. All women of a Khel khana (plarina) are common namus;a cerntral point of tribal grade. Pashtuns say' maal de sara zar au sar da namusa' meaning ' scrifice wealth to save the head, sacrifice head to save namus'.



    Melmastya
    Another important component of Pukhtu is melmastya meaning hospitality. Melmastya is an obligation, which could not be avoided. In melmastya the guests are served with food and provided with boarding and lodging if required or asked for. Melmastya is not only offered to guests who are relatives, friends and acquaintances of the host but also to strangers and those who ask for it. James W. Spain observes that melmastya "is exercised by the tribesmen to a degree frequently embarrassing to the guest - whether he be foreigner who knows he will never be in a position to return it, or fellow-tribesman who may fear that he will not be in a position to return it adequately when the occasion demands.”

    It is noteworthy that an important thing counted in melmastya is the warmness with which the guest is received and the manner in which he is served, and not the foodstuff served. That is why there are a number of Pukhtu sayings in this respect. One of the sayings states not to look at the foodstuff I offer but see the warmth and joy in my eyes; and another one says that the delicious foodstuff served with a frowns on the forehead of the host is not worthy to have.

    Another thing connected with melmastya is protection of the guest. If the guest had enmity or he needs protection due to some other reason, his protection is regarded responsibility of the host till the time he remains guest with him or in the limits of his house or in his territorial limits.. The 'protection of a guest is considered obligatory to such an extent by the Pukhtuns that a "British administrator, who had' no good opinion about the Pukhtuns, had stated in his report that "for gold, they will do almost anything except betray a guest." James W. Spain observes that: On occasions, protection may be extended into a wider sphere by proclaiming the visitor the guest of a particular chieftain or clan as long as he remains within the Pathan community. This is traditionally symbolized by giving of a possession of the sponsoring chieftain, perhaps a dagger or a garment, which the guest wears as a symbol of the protection he is under. . . . Violence or hurt of any kind is almost never offered to a bonafide guest, regardless of how poor or distasteful he may be - both because of the high regard in which the obligation of melmastia is held and because of the obligation to take badal which would automatically be placed upon the host.




    Riwaj

    The most important body of customs, social and legal precepts, next to Pakhtunwali, is riwaj. It means a body of customs which has over time assumed the status of usage, and frequently, the prevailing l;aw. It is basically a body of social customs. Sometimes the term riwaj is used in contardictio with Shari’ah (Islamic Law). It has more in use than the Islamic law. Riwaj is a set of micro-social practices. While, Pakhtunwali has a universal nature, social practices dictated by the riwaj vary from tribe to tribe and place to place.

    It is required of every Pukhtun to abide by riwaj meaning to observe the norms and values of the society in any case or in other words to 'do in Rome, what the Romans do.' Although riwaj varies from tribe to tribe or from locality to locality, in respect of various matters, abiding by riwaj is considered obligatory. That is why a Pukhtu saying is that 'da kali uzah khu da narkhah yi mah uzah meaning that leave the village if you are not happy in it but abide by its prevalent custom whether you like it or not.

    Riwaj in this context means custom and customary law. In Pukhtu, riwaj governs the conduct, lives and behaviour of the Pukhtuns to a greater extent. The parties to a dispute usually refer the matter to be decided according to riwaj or shariah, depending from area to area. There is often a divergence or clash between riwaj and shari’at in some matters, e.g. giving share of inheritance to the daughters. Shari’ah strongly ordains giving share in 9inheritance to the daughters, while under the pretext of riwaj the female are deprives of their share. A widow is entitled to a second marriage according to shari’ah but the riwaj does not allow it. A vast majority of Pakhtuns give precedence to riwaj over the shari’at and there is a saying that there ias an appeal against a decision under the shari’at but not under the riwaj.



    Jirgah
    A jirga holds a central position in the Pakhtun society. Jargah means: consultative assembly; forum; council; council of the tribal chiefs. It is a body or council of elders and is the central forum with many purposes.






    Hujra is a common sitting or sleeping place for males in the village. Visitors and unmarried young men sleep in the hujra. Expenses are usually shared by the village.Almost every hujra has a mosque adjacent to it in the village structure.

    The Hujra, which represents the sociable character of the Pukhtoons, is a useful institution and it plays a pivotal role in their daily life. It serves as a club, "dormitory, guest house and a place for ritual and feastings". It is a center for social activities as well as a Council Hall for the settlement of family and inter-tribal disputes. It is used as a male dormitory where bachelors of the village sleep. It is a guesthouse where guests are jointly entertained by village folk and a community center for betrothals, marriages and social functions. Even condolences are offered in the Hujra on the demise of a person and here sympathy is expressed with the bereaved family. It is a place of public resort where village elders and youngsters get-together in their leisure hours to discuss tribal, national and international affairs and matters of mutual interest. "The guests and strangers are fed and sheltered free of all charges in the village Hujras".

    The Hujra and Jirga are interring related. It is not only a meeting place of the villagers but it is also used as a platform for the Jirga's meetings where important decisions are made and family quarrels and tribal disputes are amicably resolved. In some places the Hujra happens to be the property of one man but in tribal areas it is a common property. Hujra, Hubble bubble (Cheelam) and Rabab (String instrument) and an earthen pitcher are inseparable and are considered its part and parcel. Though the hubble-bubble still retains its old place yet the music of Rabab with the accompaniment of the pitcher is vanishing and their place is being taken up by radio, transistor and television sets.

    AboveAlpha...more...
     
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    Nice word count, Reuters does that. Too bad you can't answer the simplest of questions. Goodnight.
     
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    It is untrue that several foreign militants, Mujahideen, or Al-Qaida terrorists, married into the local tribes in FATA. This is not to deny that the foreigners never tried to do so. It is not the first time that alien Islamists have tried to marry the Pakhtun women. The male-dominated Pakhtun society has violently responded to such aliens in the past, and it did so this time as well.

    LINK....http://waziristanhills.com/FATA/WrongPerceptions/tabid/129/language/en-US/Default.aspx

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    Well, that's encouraging.
     
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    You know....for whatever reason you look for me to make the smallest mistake like a spelling mistake...and come out and post nonsence and then expect to ask a question that is complex in the extreme......WHICH YOU REALLY DIDN'T ASK TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE EVEN THE MOST BASIC KNOWLEDGE OR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS ISSUE!!!

    As the MOMENT you posted such data was CLASSIFIED you were able to show anyone even mildly associated with this how little you know and how you love to be a PRETENDER!!

    We did not understand the situation until years after we had been waring we got a better idea of the situation!!

    You.....have no clue...and never will have one!!!

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    Again...if catching me mispeeking is all you got....this is going to be very messy for you.

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    Yup...... how are these kids going to
    run a farm.... and feed each other?????
     
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    AAHHH! Dennis! Running a farm. It reminds me of my father's hay farm we used to run. I was moving hay bales almost the same size as me. Hard work. I never want to do it again.

    That's why you go to school.
     
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    I pretty much agree, and based on Alpha's posts, I think he does too. The thing is, there are a lot of different disciplines that make up science.
     
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    Total strawman, based on assumptions and media coverage, rather than truth. I live in Pensacola, FL, one of the homes of the religious right (When I moved here, there was a Dinosaur Adventure Park Creationist Museum here, and Pensacola Christian College originators of the Abeka Christian school/homeschool curriculum are located here). While they may disagree with certain parts of science, there is no disrespect for science here. Please stop inventing things.
     
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    I saw a few minutes from an episodes of Paris Hilton and
    Ms. Ritchie on a farm.... and it is scary!
     
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    AboveAlpha.... Sir..... I have put a mathematical question out there in two forms......
    and I would greatly appreciate answers to this rather basic question, to you, that
    I fear to be too dogmatic on myself, considering how long it has been since I even
    attempted something quite like this.

    In this version of the same question I postulated a one foot/ thirty centi-meter rise in average world ocean levels.


    Geology, physics, high tides question.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/geology-physics-high-tides-question.463012/

     
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    Over here in this other discussion I asked the identical same question but I
    postulated a one meter rise in ocean levels........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/jamie-baillie-nova-scotia-israel-and-jordan.506627/

    Jamie Baillie, Nova Scotia, Israel and Jordan.

    From an article that I read since posting this question I get the impression that the day to day
    multiples is NOT 15X....... that seems to occur only a few times annually where there is a
    storm surge or exceptionally high tides due to how close the moon happens to be to the earth
    on certain days.
     
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    But.... as Matthew Fox Ph. D. once wrote.......
    perhaps the only way to create jobs of some sort for all those people who get replaced by machines.......
    and rapidly increasing technology.......
    could be through ART in some form??
     

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