SCOTUS to take up the Colorado case

How does that makes people like him better than Biden?

 

And one would assume he means actually "constitutionally prohibited" rather than just LW bloviating.

Yeah, I wouldn't bet on that. SCOTUS usually requires actual proof, not Loon left fabrications.

 

Too ****ing funny.... one day, I'll teach you what the SCOTUS actually does.... even this horrible iteration...

 

Yeah, it's "horrible" when SCOTUS actually follows the Constitution rather than ruling accord to LW socialist wish lists.

 

Is Biden going to keep pretending his administration isn't behind this challenge while it's at the Supreme Court or will they finally admit their hand in it?

 

Better what? Conman, of course tRaitor tRump is.

 

LMAO, I mean sure it's not like every other federal court(and Colorado's own district court) refuted them, sure they can find someone lol. It's an incredibly losing argument in fact citing said federal courts all the SCOTUS has to do is use one of their rulings and then issue a nationwide injunction.

 

President Biden is doing a great job of being President. Is he senile or a malicious puppet master? I think neither.

 

"Puppet Master"? Nope; he's the frggin' puppet.

 

It's not a secret that his employee was behind this challenge, but his administration keeps saying they're not involved. It's not a matter of being senile or a puppet master. It's a matter of honesty.

 

Only left sources are real sources. Right sources are figments of the imagination. Noted. Anyway, as I mentioned before when this sentence was brought up, Gorsuch's ruling on the federal court at that time, had no jurisdiction on this case. Hell, it has even less relevance(and I leave no doubt, he'll probably have to write as such.) Mainly because, the issue in that Hassan case is that Hassan clearly was disqualified.

That is NOT the question that's actually being asked in this case. What's being asked here is whether or not the States can use the 14th Amendment to disqualify Trump(in other words, Hassan's disqualification was an established fact. Trump's is not.) If the States could, then the disqualification comes into play and then Gorsuch's opinion would hold merit. But you have to answer the first question.

And the obvious answer from the text(wherein Colorado's SC is the ONLY court to answer in the affirmative) is that the 14th Amendment is a federal law. It is codified by Congress, it is a crime that can be prosecuted by the DOJ. Since it is such, the supremacy clause applies. Only the Federal Government may invoke federal law.

Not the Courts, not a single Secretary of State. Not civilians posing the 'question' in a lawsuit. Only the Government has jurisdiction to bring this case.

I mean, this case can't even win in California and you think it'll be a 5-4? VERY optimistic.

 

Now you’re arguing with yourself.

 

All of these states that are wasting the Court's time must not have gotten the memo from you.

 

Must not have...
Oh well...
You can lead a horse to water, etc...

 

This is similar logic that Shenna Bellows used, it's ironic because she's not an attorney and the Colorado justices should have known better. When you run for office you fill out a form that looks like something below. Note, the qualifications are listed on the form. That is what the states can verify. In the case of Hasan, he was an immigrant, he was not a natural-born US Citizen. Trump can run in Colorado the same as he can run in Maine. Section 3 says nothing about running for office anyway, it says no person shall "hold an office." The qualifications to run for office are verifiable facts. Determining whether or not someone who had a "passive" role in something they think is an "insurrection" and a passive role is disqualifying is not a matter or verifiable fact. And it is not anything the states can verify since they can't adjudicate "insurrection" especially when the DoJ has not made any determination on the matter for Trump or any of the thousands of people in DC on January 6th.

Trump has a right to run for president in Colorado and Maine, Hassan didn't. Injecting Hassan into the equation and taking Gorsuch out of context was pure desperation on their part. It may fool an intellectual lightweight like Judge Sotomayor, but the other Supreme Court justices aren't likely to embarrass themselves by basing anything off that decision. They have to sit in the same room as Gorsuch without worrying about him laughing at them. Gorsuch made a determination based on established law, he didn't take people out of context and invent a novel legal theory out of whole cloth.

Colorado:

Maine:

 

Lols! You relise that if SCOTUS does rules against Trump that it means he cannot run in ANY state?

 

Hmmm…the lady doth protest too much, methinks…

Is that a small bead of sweat I see on your brow…?

 

Show me even a scintilla of evidence that Biden is personally driving this.

 

Well, that's better anyway.... decent save there...

 

No, that speaks volumes about maga.

 

That's a good tip.... we now have to update some forms...

 

Hopefully they nip this incredibly stupid strategy in the butt. The left sure likes to try and out-do Trump and his supporters in the amount of stupidity they are willing to act on.

 

Judging from the excitement of the Ls I hardly see that as an accurate portrayal of them when first reported and still to this day.. I'm surprised there were no parades actually

 

The federal government has never declared 1-6 to be an insurrection, not congress, not the DOJ, not Homeland Security nor any other agency who might have the authority to do so, 1-6 remains an insurrection in the opinion of about half of the general public. Section 3 of the 14th is moot on who has the power or authority to declare an insurrection. Remember none of the 91 indictments has ever charged Trump with insurrection. Section 5 of the 14th gives congress to power to enforce all provisions of the 14th amendment with appropriate legislation. Per section 5 congress does have the power, the authority to declare 1-6 an insurrection which it hasn’t done along with any other federal government agency.


Prior to the 14th being passed, congress in July 1861 passed legislation declaring the south in insurrection. President Lincoln then signed that legislation into law, thus also declaring the south in insurrection in August of 1861. When the 14th was passed and ratified in 1868, per section 5, there was no need to declare the south in insurrection, it had already been done previously by congress and signed into law by the president. Section 5 gives congress the authority to enforce all provisions of the 14th via appropriate legislation. The declaration of congress of the south being in insurrection is the same as congress declaring war.


Is the fact 1-6 has never been officially, legally an insurrection as was done for the south in 1861 via appropriate legislation designated the south in insurrection along with the president signing that appropriate legislation. As far as I know, to this date not the president, the DOJ, Homeland Security nor any of the charges against Trump nor congress has ever specified 1-6 as being an insurrection. The possibility exist since none of this has been done, 1-6 wasn’t an insurrection legally, officially. or legally declared or stated as being an insurrection. Hence no insurrection, no insurrectionist to remove from the ballot.

 

Certainly no more stupid than claiming absolute presidential immunity or double jeopardy for an impeachment process.. At least there is a constitutional basis for Colorado and Maine.

I expect America will lose the Colorado case closely, but easily win the criminal issues

Given the choice, I'll take that result in a heartbeat.